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anonymous said:
this ain’t a pissing contest to determine who has the bank to pay cash for a vehicle dummy. Nobody pisses away money in bad investments just because they have it. Simple math here if you get paid 200k why not be smart and not throw 30k away in a bad investment to take you down to 170k? Maybe you live fine at 170k but don’t throw the 30k away dummy.
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Valid points. All this depends the situation that each person is coming from. If a person is in good standing in their current job, paid well and driving a company car, Sage set up likely not good fit. If a person is jobless then of course they take the job and not be worried about out of pocket car expenses.
 




























anonymous said:
You get mileage reimbursement, even better than gas card. Get a used EV or PHEV and you will make money with every drive.
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PHEVs are very inefficient unless you only drive short distances, and EVs still don't have enough range for a job like this unless you are fine with stopping to charge during the day at times. Majority of reps in these positions will probably be driving 3-5k miles a month, making a hybrid a much better option. Look at the cost of hybrid vehicles today, the mpg the decent sized hybrids get, the cost of gas, maintenance and repairs, insurance, taxes, and consider vehicle deprestion, etc. Nobody will be making money on 800 plus .22. May break even if you are ok driving a Toyota Prius but personally I'd much rather pay $50 a check for a fleet program all expenses paid 3 row SUV.
 




anonymous said:
PHEVs are very inefficient unless you only drive short distances, and EVs still don't have enough range for a job like this unless you are fine with stopping to charge during the day at times. Majority of reps in these positions will probably be driving 3-5k miles a month, making a hybrid a much better option. Look at the cost of hybrid vehicles today, the mpg the decent sized hybrids get, the cost of gas, maintenance and repairs, insurance, taxes, and consider vehicle deprestion, etc. Nobody will be making money on 800 plus .22. May break even if you are ok driving a Toyota Prius but personally I'd much rather pay $50 a check for a fleet program all expenses paid 3 row SUV.
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Yep nobody wants to drive some POS sub compact car in a Pharm sales job driving 4-5k miles per month. Maybe these home office geeks in Boston who like a few miles away are up for that BS but not field sales. We need 6 cylinder vehicles with back adequate back support and comfort. Plus nobody wants to have to subtract car expenses off of their pay checks and that’s the reality on no co car, no gas card, no maintenance plan and paying auto insurance.
 




I have to believe they, meaning the powers that be at Sage, are fully aware of how shitty this car package is. .22 a mile is an absolute insult when the government standard is what like .65 a mile?? How can a company preach so hard about putting people first, but then think any of us would be ok with this car package. Does anyone else find this to be a huge red flag?? Like ok offer a shitty car package, but then don’t talk incessantly about how much you put your people first! Side note* I did accept the offer with the shitty car package simply because my last company did massive layoffs and I need a job. Otherwise I never would’ve settled for this BS. I won’t be surprised when the curtain pulls back and we see the company’s true colors. They either need to up the mileage, offer a fleet car or realize a lot of people will be leaving in the first year when they see how much they’re spending out of pocket.
 




anonymous said:
PHEVs are very inefficient unless you only drive short distances, and EVs still don't have enough range for a job like this unless you are fine with stopping to charge during the day at times. Majority of reps in these positions will probably be driving 3-5k miles a month, making a hybrid a much better option. Look at the cost of hybrid vehicles today, the mpg the decent sized hybrids get, the cost of gas, maintenance and repairs, insurance, taxes, and consider vehicle deprestion, etc. Nobody will be making money on 800 plus .22. May break even if you are ok driving a Toyota Prius but personally I'd much rather pay $50 a check for a fleet program all expenses paid 3 row SUV.
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Driving an EV for this job is asinine. I have a company car now that is 100% electric and it’s the biggest pain in the ass. My company paid for my home charger but my electric bill went through the roof in 1 year. Granted rates have gone up in general, but still it’s crazy. The last thing I want to do in the middle of the day or on my way home is stop and charge for 45 min. It’s so inconvenient and frustrating. Needless to say I’m actually fine with the car situation here. TBH I don’t even care if I have to pay a little out of pocket if it means I don’t have to drive this ridiculous EV anymore.
 




Everyone just calm down here. I'm on the inside (well sort of through my recruitment role) and all I can say is that all these rumors and here say about Sage's company vehicle plan are falsehoods. Stay tuned for more info after things get finalized later this week. I think everyone posting negativity on here will be pleasantly surprised.
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anonymous said:
Driving an EV for this job is asinine. I have a company car now that is 100% electric and it’s the biggest pain in the ass. My company paid for my home charger but my electric bill went through the roof in 1 year. Granted rates have gone up in general, but still it’s crazy. The last thing I want to do in the middle of the day or on my way home is stop and charge for 45 min. It’s so inconvenient and frustrating. Needless to say I’m actually fine with the car situation here. TBH I don’t even care if I have to pay a little out of pocket if it means I don’t have to drive this ridiculous EV anymore.
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How much did your bill increase? Serious question.
 




anonymous said:
Everyone just calm down here. I'm on the inside (well sort of through my recruitment role) and all I can say is that all these rumors and here say about Sage's company vehicle plan are falsehoods. Stay tuned for more info after things get finalized later this week. I think everyone posting negativity on here will be pleasantly surprised.
Thank you for your patience.
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Very interesting. I assume 99% of comments on here on complete BS though.

If they are upping the mileage reimbursement or something positive around these lines they probably should have done so before they lost good candidates. For those left in it that may be on the fence about quitting their current role or about to receive a counter offer from their current employer when they do, I would hope Sage would relay any changes to candidates by FDA approval.
 




anonymous said:
Very interesting. I assume 99% of comments on here on complete BS though.

If they are upping the mileage reimbursement or something positive around these lines they probably should have done so before they lost good candidates. For those left in it that may be on the fence about quitting their current role or about to receive a counter offer from their current employer when they do, I would hope Sage would relay any changes to candidates by FDA approval.
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If you believe this I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you
 




anonymous said:
Very interesting. I assume 99% of comments on here on complete BS though.

If they are upping the mileage reimbursement or something positive around these lines they probably should have done so before they lost good candidates. For those left in it that may be on the fence about quitting their current role or about to receive a counter offer from their current employer when they do, I would hope Sage would relay any changes to candidates by FDA approval.
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Hahahah
they had the hiring event in Dallas with the start date of employment three weeks before PDFA date. Right there they lost good candidates who were not willing to take a risk of leaving a job and coming to Sage. So the candidates left in the mix were unemployed or desperate to leave a job. so don't count on sage being transparent with the car plan
 




anonymous said:
Hahahah
they had the hiring event in Dallas with the start date of employment three weeks before PDFA date. Right there they lost good candidates who were not willing to take a risk of leaving a job and coming to Sage. So the candidates left in the mix were unemployed or desperate to leave a job. so don't count on sage being transparent with the car plan
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True, stupid, but true.
 












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