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Excessive greed clouds your moral compass!! A fair ROI is all patients demand in pharma pricing! As a rep, you should be ASHAMED of your industry and worthless job!!

And who is it exactly that gets to determine this amorphous notion of "excessive greed"? And who is it exactly that is more greedy than government? They take your money at the point of a gun? Nobody forces you to buy healthcare.... well, not until Obamacare started. If it were so poorly priced and NOBODY could afford it, how could they make any money from it?
 




I'll vote for all universities to stop their crazy tuition increases too!

Oh, and doctors, hospital administrators, and pharmacists should all get minimum wage.

This fits the ridiculous premise of this thread and thinking health care should be non profit.


i think your premise is just at an abstraction like mine is.

but, what if great health care were mandatory for all peoples?
 




And who is it exactly that gets to determine this amorphous notion of "excessive greed"? And who is it exactly that is more greedy than government? They take your money at the point of a gun? Nobody forces you to buy healthcare.... well, not until Obamacare started. If it were so poorly priced and NOBODY could afford it, how could they make any money from it?

Where do they get idiots like you?
 








There is only one corporation in the world that reinvests a larger percentage of the bottom line than Novartis and that is Toyota. Most people have no idea that a drug company has to shell out an avg of $800 million to develop and research one potential drug. That is with no guarantee of making a dime if it is not approved. So when a drug becomes a blockbuster, remember it is paying for the other 5-10 that didn't pan out. And for everyone who is crediting Europe and Canada's healthcare systems, you should do more research. Canada has about a 50% income tax rate which is used to subsidize many things including healthcare (and education). Many patients who have money come to the US from Canada because they are forced to wait for certain procedures and their doctors are not as good. Hospitals in UK are falling apart due to financial shortfalls. And there, anyone who can afford the private insurance, buys it because the public option is so basic. The EU has many countries on the brink of bankruptcy so who knows what they will look like in 10 yrs. Plus for many drugs, you wouldn't want to use a generic version anyways. If you need a drug with a very specific dose, you should know that generic manufacturers in the US can have a pretty big variance. Can be between 80-125% of the original. Go to Walgreens, you might get the 80% version! go to CVS and you might get the 125% version.
 




There is only one corporation in the world that reinvests a larger percentage of the bottom line than Novartis and that is Toyota. Most people have no idea that a drug company has to shell out an avg of $800 million to develop and research one potential drug. That is with no guarantee of making a dime if it is not approved. So when a drug becomes a blockbuster, remember it is paying for the other 5-10 that didn't pan out. And for everyone who is crediting Europe and Canada's healthcare systems, you should do more research. Canada has about a 50% income tax rate which is used to subsidize many things including healthcare (and education). Many patients who have money come to the US from Canada because they are forced to wait for certain procedures and their doctors are not as good. Hospitals in UK are falling apart due to financial shortfalls. And there, anyone who can afford the private insurance, buys it because the public option is so basic. The EU has many countries on the brink of bankruptcy so who knows what they will look like in 10 yrs. Plus for many drugs, you wouldn't want to use a generic version anyways. If you need a drug with a very specific dose, you should know that generic manufacturers in the US can have a pretty big variance. Can be between 80-125% of the original. Go to Walgreens, you might get the 80% version! go to CVS and you might get the 125% version.

Sounds like someone is trying too hard to validate why they have been sticking it to patients for quite some time.
 




Sounds like someone is trying too hard to validate why they have been sticking it to patients for quite some time.

If by "sticking it to patients", you mean saving lives, extending lives and improving quality of life for millions of patients, then yep.... Novartis has been sticking it to patients for years. Is Novartis perfect... nope, it turns out that Novartis is imperfect. However, Novartis is far more productive and accountable than any imperfect government-run anything.
 




Sounds like someone is trying too hard to validate why they have been sticking it to patients for quite some time.

Why do you even bother to banter with this idiotic paid corporate mouthpiece shill?
This is just some whore that if ISIS gave them a big enough check $$$ they'd be spouting off on the virtues of beheadings. They have no credibility or moral compass. They would have been perfect to work in the Nazi regime like Goebbels in fact this is the Goebbels of Novartis
 




I think it might be a good time for a book on the internals of this company.

JOHN 2:10

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light(of truth), and there is
none occasion of stumbling in him.
 




Why do you even bother to banter with this idiotic paid corporate mouthpiece shill?
This is just some whore that if ISIS gave them a big enough check $$$ they'd be spouting off on the virtues of beheadings. They have no credibility or moral compass. They would have been perfect to work in the Nazi regime like Goebbels in fact this is the Goebbels of Novartis

Hey moron.... when you are ready to rejoin reality and have a serious discussion, just let me know, ok? Or you can just keep babbling mindless drivel while your nurse spoon-feeds you soup and wipes the spittle from your chin.
 




If by "sticking it to patients", you mean saving lives, extending lives and improving quality of life for millions of patients, then yep.... Novartis has been sticking it to patients for years. Is Novartis perfect... nope, it turns out that Novartis is imperfect. However, Novartis is far more productive and accountable than any imperfect government-run anything.

are you being sarcastic?
 




There is only one corporation in the world that reinvests a larger percentage of the bottom line than Novartis and that is Toyota. Most people have no idea that a drug company has to shell out an avg of $800 million to develop and research one potential drug. That is with no guarantee of making a dime if it is not approved. So when a drug becomes a blockbuster, remember it is paying for the other 5-10 that didn't pan out. And for everyone who is crediting Europe and Canada's healthcare systems, you should do more research. Canada has about a 50% income tax rate which is used to subsidize many things including healthcare (and education). Many patients who have money come to the US from Canada because they are forced to wait for certain procedures and their doctors are not as good. Hospitals in UK are falling apart due to financial shortfalls. And there, anyone who can afford the private insurance, buys it because the public option is so basic. The EU has many countries on the brink of bankruptcy so who knows what they will look like in 10 yrs. Plus for many drugs, you wouldn't want to use a generic version anyways. If you need a drug with a very specific dose, you should know that generic manufacturers in the US can have a pretty big variance. Can be between 80-125% of the original. Go to Walgreens, you might get the 80% version! go to CVS and you might get the 125% version.

if you really need drugs to care and cure you, then it should be provided without request for payment.

that is, if you live in a world where humanity loves one another as themselves.

as all one.
 




if you really need drugs to care and cure you, then it should be provided without request for payment.

that is, if you live in a world where humanity loves one another as themselves.

as all one.

If there is no payment, then there would be no drugs to care and cure you.

Individuals are free to be charitable. Government, taking from one to give to another is not charity nor humanity loving one another as themselves.
 




If there is no payment, then there would be no drugs to care and cure you.

Individuals are free to be charitable. Government, taking from one to give to another is not charity nor humanity loving one another as themselves.

Is it charitable for the govt to subsidize your employer provided healthcare insurance? Is it charitable for them to do the same with your mortgage payments.

Without the FDA there would be no pharma industry. The U.S. pays for about 50% of spending on all drugs. Raise taxes or cut spending on pharma.

I think that we are all tired of being charitable to scumbag pharma and people with thier hands out for subsidies.
 




If there is no payment, then there would be no drugs to care and cure you.

Individuals are free to be charitable. Government, taking from one to give to another is not charity nor humanity loving one another as themselves.

sure, whatever you think bro.
because you only help family and friends with the expectation of receiving a payment.
 








Is it charitable for the govt to subsidize your employer provided healthcare insurance? Is it charitable for them to do the same with your mortgage payments.

Without the FDA there would be no pharma industry. The U.S. pays for about 50% of spending on all drugs. Raise taxes or cut spending on pharma.

I think that we are all tired of being charitable to scumbag pharma and people with thier hands out for subsidies.

So if government, in all its wisdom, decides to take less of your money because you work and purchase healthcare through your employer, that equals charity??? Charity is when an individual "voluntarily" gives without expectations of something in return. Nothing government does to individuals is voluntary and it always expects something in return. Government forces people to pay taxes. There is NOTHING charitable about government.
 








SHAME on you and your company for pricing cancer drugs so high that it bankrupts patients and our healthcare system. Your actions are amoral and criminal. My doctor said he was going to do his best and not prescribe your products! Your job and company are the work of the Devil!
 




SHAME on you and your company for pricing cancer drugs so high that it bankrupts patients and our healthcare system. Your actions are amoral and criminal. My doctor said he was going to do his best and not prescribe your products! Your job and company are the work of the Devil!

Shame on your Government-God that has bankrupted everything it has ever touched. Government, taking from one to give to another is AMORAL AND CRIMINAL.

BTW... your doctor sounds like a first-rate QUACK.