Sotyktu floundering

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anonymous said:
No nerve touched...you were just wrong which is why you corrected yourself.
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Man, people at BMS are straight up retarded.

Does it not occur to you that your company is completely f!cked when you have only a single product out of dozens that has some semblance of growth? Plus a gaping hole of tens of billions of revenue that is soon to become generic.

Did that go a bit over your head? Do you sniff glue when you wake up? Does your brain not function properly?
 












anonymous said:
To be fair only 50% of the derm managers suck

and not all of the ones who suck are from Novartis/galderma

And not all the managers from Novartis/galderma suck

But if you want to know what went wrong with this drug, the incompetent lazy managers from Novartis/galderma certainly should get part of the blame

And so does leadership who hired them

And so does the marketing department who did a lousy marketing campaign

The drug is a good one but marketplace realities may have doomed us to failure regardless of mistakes made by leadership and management

We will never know that though

As we rapidly approach the cliff and the bitter end.

We are all so so so fucked
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Congrats on making us all even more depressed
 
















anonymous said:
Yes! We are taking over. I just interviewed and the hiring manager said “I heard things didn’t go as expected with Sotyktu.” Embarrassing
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I was an Otezla rep. Left to sell device, but I was recruited by BMY early on and when I turned down the offer, the hiring manager had the nerve to tell me, "we'll have half your business by the end of summer.". I knew I made the right choice. Ever since, I continue to bad mouth the drug to every derm I see (about 6 a day). I even make shit up. I've never met a more self righteous group than the JAKtoo crowd.
 




anonymous said:
I was an Otezla rep. Left to sell device, but I was recruited by BMY early on and when I turned down the offer, the hiring manager had the nerve to tell me, "we'll have half your business by the end of summer.". I knew I made the right choice. Ever since, I continue to bad mouth the drug to every derm I see (about 6 a day). I even make shit up. I've never met a more self righteous group than the JAKtoo crowd.
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Gotta unveil who that hiring manager is! Sounds like a pompous jerk :)
 




























anonymous said:
Wait did this new DM come over from
Amgen?
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who knows

what is fact is that Amgen is the most hated company in dermatology. Not old Celgene. They love those guys. But Amgen as a company is despised like none other. Look, we are inept and a joke but at least dermatology as a specialty doesn't have it out for us.

The facts are that dermatology as a specialty hates Amgen with a passion. Go look at their website or attend AAD and they have zero offerings in their R/D for dermatology. Derm knows they bought Otezla just to milk its profits, but they invest zero in derm. Every single trial was initiated before they bought them. Amgen killed off all other trials. They just want it for the profit and they will leave derm again.

Still, at the end of the day when I go home, we suck. At least we aren't hated too.
 




anonymous said:
who knows

what is fact is that Amgen is the most hated company in dermatology. Not old Celgene. They love those guys. But Amgen as a company is despised like none other. Look, we are inept and a joke but at least dermatology as a specialty doesn't have it out for us.

The facts are that dermatology as a specialty hates Amgen with a passion. Go look at their website or attend AAD and they have zero offerings in their R/D for dermatology. Derm knows they bought Otezla just to milk its profits, but they invest zero in derm. Every single trial was initiated before they bought them. Amgen killed off all other trials. They just want it for the profit and they will leave derm again.

Still, at the end of the day when I go home, we suck. At least we aren't hated too.
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Our pipeline is quite baron as well. Next up is a mediocre PSA read out. SLE Lupus will be the best use for this dog, but that’s at least three years away. BMS cancelled the rest of its deucra trials because the drug wasn’t effective enough. Dog won’t hunt!
 




anonymous said:
who knows

what is fact is that Amgen is the most hated company in dermatology. Not old Celgene. They love those guys. But Amgen as a company is despised like none other. Look, we are inept and a joke but at least dermatology as a specialty doesn't have it out for us.

The facts are that dermatology as a specialty hates Amgen with a passion. Go look at their website or attend AAD and they have zero offerings in their R/D for dermatology. Derm knows they bought Otezla just to milk its profits, but they invest zero in derm. Every single trial was initiated before they bought them. Amgen killed off all other trials. They just want it for the profit and they will leave derm again.

Still, at the end of the day when I go home, we suck. At least we aren't hated too.
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You need an enema
 












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