Zimmy update













Well then -- here you go:

Here are five key moments from the past week.

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EXPLETIVES AND A KNOCK-KNOCK JOKE

Both came in opening statements. Prosecutor John Guy repeated words Zimmerman had uttered under his breath to a police dispatcher as he followed Martin. In the courtroom, jaws dropped and spectators looked around at one another. Defense attorney Don West began his statement with a knock-knock joke about the difficulty of picking a jury in the case. Even he admitted the joke sounded weird.

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RACHEL JEANTEL VS. DON WEST

Jeantel was on the phone with Martin moments before his confrontation with Zimmerman and is considered a key prosecution witnesses. She testified that Martin told her he was being followed by "a creepy-ass cracker." But it was her testy cross-examination exchanges with West that commanded the most attention. Each asked the other to repeat what they were saying many times. At one moment, Jeantel urged West to move on to his next question: "You can go. You can go." On her second day on the stand, she seemed more subdued. West asked her, "You feeling OK today? You seem different than yesterday."

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"GROUND AND POUND." Even though he was called Friday by the prosecution, John Good, a former neighbor of Zimmerman, gave testimony that seemed to bolster the defense contention that Martin was on top of Zimmerman in the fight. Good said he saw Martin straddling Zimmerman in manner similar to a mixed-martial art maneuver known as "ground and pound."

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911 CALLS

The 911 calls made by neighbors were repeatedly played for jurors. Neighbors asked police to respond as moans for help followed by a gunshot are heard. A series of neighbors testified about what they heard of the fight, and then prosecutors played corresponding 911 calls as witnesses sat on the stand. Some neighbors teared up as they heard their panicked voices.

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MARTIN'S PARENTS ON RACE

Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, Martin's parents, held a news conference Thursday in which their attorney said they didn't want race injected into the trial. Some reporters asked why the nation's most prominent black civil rights had been invited to Sanford to demand Zimmerman's arrest if race wasn't an issue. But attorney Daryl Parks said at this stage of the case, it shouldn't be a factor.
 




Like I said a long time ago, to me - off scot free isn't enough but 2nd degree? No way. They might (keyword might) have been able to get a manslaughter conviction but I don't see any way for 2nd degree murder. I don't think he left the car intending to kill someone, on the other hand, had it been a white kid in a hoodie, I doubt he'd have left the car. I'm not calling him a racist, I'm calling him a not so smart, wannabe cop. An unfortunate incident for both people.

Just a thought for Floridians, at what point does getting punched justify shooting someone? Could you 'bait someone' into punching you and after a few punches shoot them? This might open the door to killing someone if you can take a whooping and are packing.

Just thinking out loud.
 








Read today, that CNN released his Social Security number. If true, he will win big in a lawsuit against them. Also, Precious sure blew the Prosecution's case last week. Guess that Trevon was no Saint after all.
 




libluvsbukkake said:
Read today, that CNN released his Social Security number. If true, he will win big in a lawsuit against them. Also, Precious sure blew the Prosecution's case last week. Guess that Trevon was no Saint after all.
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Is Vegas giving odds on this? I'd have to bet that Zimbo gets off at this point. I haven't been following it due to it's summer here and enjoying the beach, the 'garden' and my girlfriend but I did see Mark Geragos make a commentary. That guy is a complete scumbag and was so cocksure that Scott Peterson would get off - but it didn't happen so I take whatever he says with a grain of salt.
 








And I quote, "Some lawyers see an acquittal, a deadlocked jury, or a conviction on a lesser charge such as manslaughter as more likely, while cautioning they could not conclude how the six-member, all-female jury might see the evidence."
http://news.yahoo.com/case-against-z...181037578.html
As I said in post #458 and from the gitgo, they may (keyword may) be allowed to consider and convict on a manslaughter charge. That's the only thing they can nail him on now. With that said, I could be wrong but I'll bet he wishes he's stayed in that car now. He's gonna have to do hard time at Jenny Craig if/when he walks.
 
















Vagitarian said:
And I quote, "Some lawyers see an acquittal, a deadlocked jury, or a conviction on a lesser charge such as manslaughter as more likely, while cautioning they could not conclude how the six-member, all-female jury might see the evidence."
http://news.yahoo.com/case-against-z...181037578.html
As I said in post #458 and from the gitgo, they may (keyword may) be allowed to consider and convict on a manslaughter charge. That's the only thing they can nail him on now. With that said, I could be wrong but I'll bet he wishes he's stayed in that car now. He's gonna have to do hard time at Jenny Craig if/when he walks.
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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/abcs-dan...erman-trial-i-dont-see-how-the-jury-convicts/
 




Looks like everything is wrapping up. I've watched this every day and it is fascinating. The prosecution did a great job for the defense. I literally couldn't believe what I was seeing. The "star witness" was priceless.

What are your predictions?
 




My prediction (once again) is that he will walk unless they give the option for manslaughter and then there is a POSSIBILITY they could get that. I do not believe Zimmerman followed him intending to kill him but on the other hand, had Martin been white, I do not believe he would have followed him.
 




Pale Horse said:
Looks like everything is wrapping up. I've watched this every day and it is fascinating. The prosecution did a great job for the defense. I literally couldn't believe what I was seeing. The "star witness" was priceless.

What are your predictions?
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I think the star witness is still looking at herself on tape saying:

"ooooo, I look damned good!"
 












The fixaroo is in.

SANFORD, Fla. - State prosecutors are asking the judge in the Trayvon Martin murder case to instruct the jury to consider lesser charges - manslaughter and aggravated assault - when they begin deliberations Friday.

Zimmerman's attorneys have objected, and Judge Debra Nelson will hold a hearing Thursday morning to decide whether jurors should consider the new charges. The jury would still have the option of convicting Zimmerman, 29, of the second-degree murder charge that prosecutors sought when the trial began.

http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/2504917
 




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