Why is turnover extremely high?

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If this does not wake people up I don't know what will here. I HAVE got to find a job somewhere else. We are losing great people that people thought would never leave. Have they stopped announcing people are leaving? I'm finding out more people that are top performers have one foot out or are gone? Where are they going? C A was great!
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Why does other people leaving cause you to want to leave? How has that affected you? If you are doing your job and making a good salary there would be no reason for your DM to be on your back. If you do go, good luck on finding anything any better. I'm afraid you'll find the grass is not greener.
 



Anonymous said:
Why does other people leaving cause you to want to leave? How has that affected you? If you are doing your job and making a good salary there would be no reason for your DM to be on your back. If you do go, good luck on finding anything any better. I'm afraid you'll find the grass is not greener.[/QUOT


JS, shouldn't you be at the SMELT meeting? That sounds like something you would say.
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Anonymous said:
Why does other people leaving cause you to want to leave? How has that affected you? If you are doing your job and making a good salary there would be no reason for your DM to be on your back. If you do go, good luck on finding anything any better. I'm afraid you'll find the grass is not greener.
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Oh no, the grass is not greener person is back. 50% of the sales force over the last year thinks otherwise.
 









Anonymous said:
Why does other people leaving cause you to want to leave? How has that affected you? If you are doing your job and making a good salary there would be no reason for your DM to be on your back. If you do go, good luck on finding anything any better. I'm afraid you'll find the grass is not greener.
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The grass is greener... but the money is! This company is a joke on compensation.
 



How many reps has Ista lost in the first two weeks of the year? Is retention at all a priority? Does management care? It is a sign of a systemic issue at the top. I remember Tom saying to us at a breakfast meeting they have no problem with turnover. Most companies value their employees and do not want them to leave. I was shocked by the cavalier nature of it all.

I left over a year ago and I am very happy with my change in career. If you are not happy just start looking because it will take you a while. I would recommend a B2B position because pharma is dying.
 



This company does not value any employee. They absolutely have no regard for turnover-- no matter if your good or bad. They act as if there are not great jobs out in the market. Well, according to some top performers that have jumped--There are MANY. Who is not interviewing?
 



Anonymous said:
A certain San Diego rep.
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Is there more than 1 SD rep? I got a call from a recruiter late last year about a job with ISTA in "the San Diego" territory. Turns out it was also all the way out to Palm Springs which for a big city like SD that is way too big of a territory.

I noticed the job was reposted recently, glad I passed on this one...
 






Anonymous said:
I heard yesterday CA in San Diego quit. I know he had won multiple President's Clubs. WTF is going on there when you are losing your top people like this?
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To quit just before getting his next trip to Hawaii is sort of strange. I would have at least stayed long enough to collect on that. Must have been a hell of a deal. I know of several reps who took another job but didn't tell ISTA and collected paychecks from both companies for several months.
 



What happened to that red-neck white trash girl in the Carolinas district? Saw that the Winston Salme territory is open, I think that was hers? Did she finally get caught messing with the wrong married manager/doctor/executive? Or did the coke finally catch up to her?
 



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What happened to that red-neck white trash girl in the Carolinas district? Saw that the Winston Salme territory is open, I think that was hers? Did she finally get caught messing with the wrong married manager/doctor/executive? Or did the coke finally catch up to her?
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Our DM is a jackoff that's why she's gone. The management at this company is so freakin clueless that it makes my head spin. I'm so frustrated that I may have to kick someone's butt tomorrow just to relieve my frustrations.

Sincerely,

Bad to the Bone James L.
Carolinas
 



Anonymous said:
What happened to that red-neck white trash girl in the Carolinas district? Saw that the Winston Salme territory is open, I think that was hers? Did she finally get caught messing with the wrong married manager/doctor/executive? Or did the coke finally catch up to her?
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Whomever posted this needs to take it back...words hurt. AB is a true asset to the company. She rises head and shoulders above everyone in her district, region, and the entire company. If she were to ever leave our esteemed company, our stock price would plummet. Words can't describe how great she is.

If you don't believe it...just ask her. She'll tell you.
 






Looks like people are coming back to work here with us at Ista!!! Grass is not greener after all... KH is back in the ATL. NK must not be as terrible as everyone has consistently complained about over the past two years.
 



Anonymous said:
Looks like people are coming back to work here with us at Ista!!! Grass is not greener after all... KH is back in the ATL. NK must not be as terrible as everyone has consistently complained about over the past two years.
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You are funny. As I wait here in the airport awaiting my flight to this dreaded NSM you gave me a good laugh. Thank you very much. I guess the 60 or so people leaving over the last year would not agree and are laughing at this too.
 



Anonymous said:
WOW!!! CRASH, BOOM, BANG....that's you falling off you self given pedestal. Get over yourself it is no different from any other pharma job. You all seem to be arrogant assholes, breed from the top down. Everyone needs to work to be successful, some who work fewer hours work smarter not longer...take a look at you strategy. Maybe you're just dumb

To answer the question about turnover its Regionals/National sales directors turning a blind eye to most DM's, esp. the ones that have been here a long time, somehow longevity (being able to put up with so much bullshit) gains you some sort of "credit" and they know they can push you pussy's around and they are "yes" men and women and in turn the DM's bully the reps and they leave because of the bullshit. Because Reg/Nat lead by poor example and they think it's the right thing to do there are no consequences for bad behavior. There are managers with 50% and higher turnover in a year or less, that is ridiculous! Just think the huge turnover is millions of dollars in training. There was an article stating training for a rep, at home, home office (meals lodging, breaks etc!) then getting to know territory without doing much with business can cost at least $150,000,
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The turnover is so high because management SUCKS and isnt trained properly to learn to deal with reps. That includes being and staying motivated, changing the HORRIBLE bonus structure which only benefits those that inherited a cream de-la cream territory and focusing on call QUALITY not quanity. That EXACTLY why the turnover is so friggin high in this company--Oh another thing, our chief honcho :Vincy-poo" WILL sell this company to the hightest bidder--it's just a matter of time--he does neeed to drive a newer expensive vehicle every year cause those Maseratis need to be replaced at 12 month intervals you know.
 



I must say, that I'm truly embarrassed by management at this company. Our manager has lost 5 reps in a year and has 6 more very UNHAPPY reps! Maybe it's their poor leadership- micromanaging- passive-aggressive management style. Says to all, if we are not happy here to walk out the door. Really? That's your answer to 11 people in a row now... McFly...look in the mirror cause perhaps that's the one that should be a walkin' out the old door
 



Anonymous said:
I must say, that I'm truly embarrassed by management at this company. Our manager has lost 5 reps in a year and has 6 more very UNHAPPY reps! Maybe it's their poor leadership- micromanaging- passive-aggressive management style. Says to all, if we are not happy here to walk out the door. Really? That's your answer to 11 people in a row now... McFly...look in the mirror cause perhaps that's the one that should be a walkin' out the old door
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tommy/vinney/stevey and the board have never said they have made a mistake. never. What do we expect from these guys. They have lost their way and have not cared for sometime. Just doing enough to sell this stinker. And that will be a tough sell, a very tough sell after the first quarter earnings.
 



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