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Like asking what's worse--being killed with a knife or being pushed out of a window.
KING is a great company to work for. The IHATEKING Guy was fired.
You can look at their cheap looking Viagra ads with the Bimbo and determine just what types of management are running this company.Pfizer. Being asked to put a sample bottle in every single doctor's hand was degrading and inappropriate; what if the doctor was heading to see a completely different patient? 'By any means necessary' was their motto. Absolutely the worst.
Abbott. Just go read the board and it is so obvious. They sell 2 drugs for the same disease state and pit partners against each other. Micro manage out the ass and lay off their own people during acquisitions to save money. they seriously suck and it is too bad because most of the reps are pretty bright. All of the good ones have left or are looking to get out.
You can look at their cheap looking Viagra ads with the Bimbo and determine just what types of management are running this company.
Look, its still a great job for only one reason: the pay is above average in the sales profession.
Try other sales jobs. You will work 2X as hard and make a few bucks less. BUT, in time, you will make more in other sales jobs AND you will be more respected by your customers and your company and you will have more leverage to use your relationships with other companies.
The problem with pharma. is that there are too many arrogant people in it. And, they don't care about what you have done in the industry. If you get downsized, for example, they think you are not a good salesperson, which is total BS.
My suggestion is the NEVER get into this industry. If you are stuck in the industy, your best best is to move into management. Don't stay as a rep. It is not good. You will get downsized and you will lose a lot of respect from others because you look like you lacked the ambition to move up. I know it sounds silly, but that is pharma. for you.
In other industries, if you are a producer, you are looked up to. You can pick your own hours. You become more of an expert as well.
In pharma., if you stay in field sales, you will be looked upon as a hack after about 5 years unless you moved into managment.
With all that said, there really are no bad pharma. companies, because the pay is very good for such a structured and generally easy job.
Pharma sales jobs are dwindling. You now have the contract work which can be anywhere from 55k to 100k in salary but typically more toward the low end and we have the specialty and hospital reps at about 120k with a glut of managers (overpaid). There are some device jobs that will start at 35k and tell you how much you will make in commission. Then they work you to death and never pan out. I have had the fortune to work all sides and get out after I could no longer stand the bullshit, only to work my ass off at a "real" sales job and then to get a management job out of pharma but in science. Stay in pharma as long as you can is my recommendation. Any other sales job is going to bust your ass. You will work from 7 am to 10 pm five to six days a week for 1/2 the money and NO, no you won't one day make more than pharma. Your benefits will also suck. Pharma is like the teat of the overfed hog. Enjoy it. If you cannot, suck it up cupcake there is not much out there . . . . I make more now but with a specialized technical degree and managing a global sales force. It took me years of networking to land this good gig. Most who got out and did not land something right away are now selling cars or suits.
You can look at their cheap looking Viagra ads with the Bimbo and determine just what types of management are running this company.
I worked for Forrest and had this total arshole for a manager. The guys name was Tim Tobolic. What d-bag. Terrible personal skills, Terrible management skills, I feel for those that have to deal with him on any level.FOREST FOREST FOREST wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
He hasn't held a management position since he left Pharma - he's been a device rep for the past 11 years. I know of many stories like this where terrible managers eventually left the industry and/or returned to being a rep again. And that's a good thing!I worked for Forrest and had this total arshole for a manager. The guys name was Tim Tobolic. What d-bag. Terrible personal skills, Terrible management skills, I feel for those that have to deal with him on any level.