Trifexis Boom Over??

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Wrong. The internet will be about $5 less than the vet- it can't afford to be more than that. What you are forgetting is our $10 and $20 rebates to the client. A year supply for $40-$50! Sign me up!
 












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Watch, I bet 50-100 Sentinel will be at 46.99 on the internet. Then what the DVM is scratching his/her ___. Crying I can't competewith these sites.
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You forget that the Vet is buying Sentinel 51-100 at a cost of $30.15

$30.15 (vet cost) X 80% mark up (realistic in today's economy) = $55.27

Then minus $10 rebate (vet only) = $45.76 --- Gee, how can they ever compete vs. online at a price of $46.99? Their compliance might even go up to 9 months (where as Trifexis's is 6-7 months).....that means more revenue for vet and better for pets.

Not to mention, Trifexis is horrible to take / is only for 8 wks of age (Sentinel 4 wks) / is only for 5 lbs. (Sentinel 2 lbs) / Sentinel is true flea prevention targeting 85% of flea lifecylce (Trifexis only covers 5% lifecycle) / Trifexis causes seizures.

Show me a vet that stays with Trifexis over Sentinel -- and I'll show you a dumb ass who is just salty towards Novartis. Those dopes exist, but even they'll see the light when their customers leave them or buy it from a scum bag vet online who diverts.

Good bye Trifexis. You were always a niche' product. How's that price increase going for ya? That must have gone over well in Napa.
 






Anonymous said:
You forget that the Vet is buying Sentinel 51-100 at a cost of $30.15

$30.15 (vet cost) X 80% mark up (realistic in today's economy) = $55.27

Then minus $10 rebate (vet only) = $45.76 --- Gee, how can they ever compete vs. online at a price of $46.99? Their compliance might even go up to 9 months (where as Trifexis's is 6-7 months).....that means more revenue for vet and better for pets.

Not to mention, Trifexis is horrible to take / is only for 8 wks of age (Sentinel 4 wks) / is only for 5 lbs. (Sentinel 2 lbs) / Sentinel is true flea prevention targeting 85% of flea lifecylce (Trifexis only covers 5% lifecycle) / Trifexis causes seizures.

Show me a vet that stays with Trifexis over Sentinel -- and I'll show you a dumb ass who is just salty towards Novartis. Those dopes exist, but even they'll see the light when their customers leave them or buy it from a scum bag vet online who diverts.

Good bye Trifexis. You were always a niche' product. How's that price increase going for ya? That must have gone over well in Napa.
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Bravo, bravo, bravo. So let me get this straight...Doing nothing for the adult flea which can live for days feeding on the pet is a great product. Mrs. Smith, we will not kill the fleas eating your pet, but we promise they won't lay eggs. Your dog will be miserable, but that's all we had for your 2 lb dog. Really?? You can have the 2-4lb market and the 4-8 wk market. That is all you will probably get anyway. Besides, next year both products will be in trouble when Merck launches their product.
 






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Bravo, bravo, bravo. So let me get this straight...Doing nothing for the adult flea which can live for days feeding on the pet is a great product. Mrs. Smith, we will not kill the fleas eating your pet, but we promise they won't lay eggs. Your dog will be miserable, but that's all we had for your 2 lb dog. Really?? You can have the 2-4lb market and the 4-8 wk market. That is all you will probably get anyway. Besides, next year both products will be in trouble when Merck launches their product.
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To date, Elanco has never provided a study that proves that adult fleas DO NOT lay eggs for 30 days while on Trifexis. Even in the Trifexis detailer (pg 3) -- the graph clearly shows that Trifexis egg reduction is 96.2% between day 22-30. And these were in studies that Elanco controlled and NOT real world.

That's right....selling Trifexis as an adult flea kill that will last for 30 days is NOT preventative medicine. Using an adulticide alone to prevent flea infestations in direct contrast to what the experts recommend. It's flea control for dip shit clinics that don't care about best medicine OR are too lazy to educate their clients.

As for Sentinel - we offer Capstar (24 hr only adulticide) if they get an adult flea on their dog. It costs are minimal and the average Sentinel user only needs a few a year -- but guess what, they won't get flea infestations. See why you coudn't get our loyalists? At your price point - you'll be lucky to keep any good / smart vet.

Did you forget about ticks? Ever hear of Parastar Plus? Kills them in 1 hour all month long. We sell it to vets only and we've got a combo rebate with Sentinel. Good bye Trifexis.

Dummy.
 












You mean the parastar plus that is available on oh....1800 petmeds on Fosters on California pet pharmacy.......that one that you only sell to vets? I wonder Im the only actual vet in here doing some research? Are all you guys just drug reps nattering back and forth at each other.....hmmm I think I will look elsewhere to get info on any of these products.
 






I'd like to see the return of a product like Interceptor, which my dogs did really, really well on. I have a dog that can not tolerate ivermectin, has food and other allergies, and has had reactions to Trifexis. How can we get big pharma to overlook the bottom line and provide something sensible, basically a new version of Interceptor? My dogs are indoors 99% of the time. They have never had a problem with fleas and I prefer not to give them a pill to treat fleas when they don't need it. At the same time, having owned heartworm positive dogs in the past and not desiring to go through the treatment process with other dogs again, I do comprehend the need for heartworm preventative. Bigger, stronger and all encompassing isn't always better in preventatives and medications. Bring an Interceptor replacement back for those of us who need it. Sentinel is what I use now because my sensitive dog can tolerate it but he doesn't need to be treated for fleas!
 






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I'd like to see the return of a product like Interceptor, which my dogs did really, really well on. I have a dog that can not tolerate ivermectin, has food and other allergies, and has had reactions to Trifexis. How can we get big pharma to overlook the bottom line and provide something sensible, basically a new version of Interceptor? My dogs are indoors 99% of the time. They have never had a problem with fleas and I prefer not to give them a pill to treat fleas when they don't need it. At the same time, having owned heartworm positive dogs in the past and not desiring to go through the treatment process with other dogs again, I do comprehend the need for heartworm preventative. Bigger, stronger and all encompassing isn't always better in preventatives and medications. Bring an Interceptor replacement back for those of us who need it. Sentinel is what I use now because my sensitive dog can tolerate it but he doesn't need to be treated for fleas!
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Point well taken. Problem is that to big pharma the ONLY concern is the bottom line. Compassion for the end user (your pet) does not exist.
 






FYI, lufenuron (the flea preventive molecule in Sentinel) is essentially inert in your dog. It prevents the development of chitin in flea egg and larval life stages, eliminating them. Since our dogs bodies don't contain chitin, it has no effect on them whatsoever. In fact, when they did the LD50 study on lufenuron (LD50 = lethal dose for 50% of testing/study population), they had to estimate a dose since the couldn't administer enough to kill any of the study dogs. Extremely safe for any dog, and not sure if you can say that with any other monthly flea oral drug other than Capstar.
 






Anonymous said:
FYI, lufenuron (the flea preventive molecule in Sentinel) is essentially inert in your dog. It prevents the development of chitin in flea egg and larval life stages, eliminating them. Since our dogs bodies don't contain chitin, it has no effect on them whatsoever. In fact, when they did the LD50 study on lufenuron (LD50 = lethal dose for 50% of testing/study population), they had to estimate a dose since the couldn't administer enough to kill any of the study dogs. Extremely safe for any dog, and not sure if you can say that with any other monthly flea oral drug other than Capstar.
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This may well be true but if fleas aren't a problem it would be nice to have an option to prevent heartworm that does not have a flea treatment included. If I detect any problem with Sentinel my dogs will be taken off of heartworm preventative completely and I'll just start putting mosquito deterrent on their fur prior to our bathroom walks during the summer. And I can also treat my yard instead of my dogs. They are literally indoors 99% of their lives. Don't want heartworm but I'm pretty sure their risks of getting it are extremely low to begin with as their outdoor exposure is limited. My dogs are family members.
 






Anonymous said:
Point well taken. Problem is that to big pharma the ONLY concern is the bottom line. Compassion for the end user (your pet) does not exist.
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Sad to say this is probably true, especially if you look at comments on this board from a year or two ago regarding trifexis sales. Sentinel is okay for now but I will take them off it if I detect any problems whatsoever, though it is supposed to be safe. But you never know. I hate to put anything in their system that they do not need such as a pill for fleas. It is just a crying shame that something that worked for us for years, Interceptor, is no longer available at all. Big Pharma seems to be more $$$$ driven than end user (my babies) driven. My dogs are family members.
 






Are you really a vet? Milbemycine oxyme with prazi & lufenuron? You don't want to "overmedicate"?

Big Pharma concerned about $$$$$, well no shit, they're a corporation.
What about your clients? What is your problem?

Yes, Trifexis sucks, it makes them puke, it's so so obvious. Most complaints ever guys, sorry.
Your clients barely get flea prevention at the prices they pay, a lot of them don't look at their dogs as family members, let alone look at their dogs themselves until they're actually at the vet. Your dog(s) go out to do their business, they pick up a single adult flea. Fine, guess what that one flea that lays eggs all over the place in your house, on your dog, they are sterile. The most annoying lifecycle of the flea is over and they're dead, your house isn't infested with pupae for the next 5-7 months or whatever. Better yet, your dog eats that flea within an hour, prazi. Done.

"Sentinel is supposed to be safe"- read your drug labels. They all say the same shit.

FYI. Your client is the end user, I know you forget that when you are in front of said patient in the exam room, but they don't have a job, their owners do. When you leave the practice you remember that, and please try to remember that in the exam room so us technicians don't have to fight for the one ingredient you want to have available that the owners don't care about as a whole.


You want to decrease the amount of shit you put in your pets, feed them a balanced, quality diet and tell their breeders to do so to better the gene pool. Yes, whatever screw the backyard breeders, they are dumber than the rest of us.
 






From one asshole to another.....

Please accept my sincerest apologies as I just figured out who I was responding to. I'm sure there are plenty of veterinarians that may want to try Ceva's generic. I am not perfect, I learn new things every day, and I apologize.

This could be so much different if you guys all worked with them. I dream of being able to see the world rose coloured without the glasses for you and us/them.
 


















Anyone know how to install a fuel pump? Get off your whiny little asses and start using your brains. Thinking of you today.....
Its been a wild and crazy ride...cough...please help.
 






Seriously....
Seattle reps, tell that jobless programmer crashing on your couch the god damn world activist needs help. She's jobless, homeless, and couch surfing like all of you cycling idiots will be doing soon with interceptors generic release.
Thought of a rose colored world with the sunrise this am. Hopeful to see it become a reality for us and them very soon. Xoxo
 


















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