Best thing to do is get out as soon as possible. You can't convince the people who aren't phased by what a toxic work environment this place is that there is anything wrong with it. Either they were messed up in the head when they got here, or are willing to sell their soul to the devil for a paycheck. Not to mention the constant lying that we are forced to do on a regular basis. I know that I wasn't raised like this and am embarrassed about what I do for a living. I haven't done a real honest days work since I started here 8 months ago. The lying and backstabbing is nothing I want to be a part of. All the supposedly religious people who work here. Give me a break. Like you I know I have to get out before I turn into the people that are left.
Thoughts on Executive Rep Promotions
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Best thing to do is get out as soon as possible. You can't convince the people who aren't phased by what a toxic work environment this place is that there is anything wrong with it. Either they were messed up in the head when they got here, or are willing to sell their soul to the devil for a paycheck. Not to mention the constant lying that we are forced to do on a regular basis. I know that I wasn't raised like this and am embarrassed about what I do for a living. I haven't done a real honest days work since I started here 8 months ago. The lying and backstabbing is nothing I want to be a part of. All the supposedly religious people who work here. Give me a break. Like you I know I have to get out before I turn into the people that are left.
I guess all companies should just consult you in all matters, right? I mean, the company isn't run exactly as you (an entry level employee) thinks it should be run, so it's "unethical, immoral, and just plain idiotic." Gimme a break. The world is full of people just like you - you know nothing, but have an opinion on everything. I mean, how ridiculous to think someone should demonstrate LEADERSHIP characteristics to get promoted. That's just CRAZY (and apparently warped and twisted as well)!!!
I agree with one thing you said - you should get out of here as soon as possible. No company needs a cancer like you.
Careful, Carlos is known for filing frivolous lawsuits against those who aren't supportive of him.
You are out of touch and yes, management should and does consult reps for feedback and that feedback form is called e compass surveys. Management's voice of the customer survey results impact there review and good managers know its good for them, there teams, and the business to listen and try to implement such impassioned feedback such as the promotion process.
Reps are hired to sell. Team goals neutralize sales results so the reps wanting to get promoted attempt to do anything to seperate themselves from the pack which means get ready for some world class butt kissing and desperate begging of team mates to join in their craziness of trying to get promoted. Okay, I give in, you are riight, this form of leadership should trump sales and sales reps should be promoted on this leadership criteria.
She's smart enough to get the he-- away from you and all the other lowlifes left here before she becomes one of you! I think she is brilliant! If you think mailing worthless crap out to your team or collecting used shoes at meeting is LEADERSHIP then YOU are definitely part of the problem. People like YOU have ruined this company. Thank goodness she (or he) is smart enough to get out now. Not sure how someone that smart made it past HR. Can obviously see how YOU did! Stupid and not other chance at another career. You were the PERFECT Lilly hire!
I love how the entry level sales reps are experts on all matters! I mean, sales growth is in the tank right now - somewhere in the neighborhood of negative 50%, but you've figured out what it takes to run this company. Can't run your territory, but you can run the company. The lack of self-awareness of the average sales rep is staggering. Now, go ahead and blame lackluster sales performance on everyone but yourself - I'm sure that's next!
The worst part here is that you're too dumb to even realize how dumb you are.
The worst part here is that you're too dumb to even realize how dumb you are.
You obviously aren't very smart either or you wouldn't still be working at this sinking ship. Let me guess. Your dm told you that your division is safe? You will be in the unemployment line with the rest of us soon. Do you not read the financial trades? JL announced 50% reduction in operating expenses (that means us dumb---). Sales are in the tank. Along with R&D and our talent pool.
Yeppers and Derica promised more billions in stock buybacks.
That money does not come from new revenues.
It comes from the corpses of careers, like digging gold out of their teeth
You're assuming I'm dumb enough to still be in Sales, my friend. You're right - YOU will be in the unemployment line. Me? I'm just fine
.You're assuming I'm dumb enough to still be in Sales, my friend. You're right - YOU will be in the unemployment line. Me? I'm just fine
Ha!! You were stupid enough to go inside? Or be a SD? Lmao!! You are a total idiot! Do you know how many calls I have had from people inside BEGGING me to get them a job outside? And we are getting cut soon too. But not as fast as the inside people and upper mgt. You need to shut your mouth and find a life coach. Obvious that you can't be allowed to plan your life by yourself. You need to stay off CP too btw.
Hmmmm...let's just say I'm in a position to know whose head is on the chopping block and whose isn't. I am certain I'll be fine. You...maybe not. But, go ahead and tell me how I'm going to call and beg you for a job or whatever BS your peddling to make yourself feel better right now.
And last time I checked, CP is an open forum. But, just like everything else, I'm sure you think you know how to run a website as well, right? You're a joke.
You'll be calling. Seen it way too many times in my 15+ years. You get sucked in and fed a bunch of BS lies and mgt convinces you that you are safe. Then you get the ax, freak out and start calling me and anyone else you can get to take your call begging us to help you find something because you KNOW you will never find a job out of pharma where you can work 2 hours per day and make this money. Seen it over and over and over again. Just know I will be laughing my as- off when you get cut!
I on the other hand have volunteered every time to take the package and they keep finding a spot for me. Mainly because I am a pharmacist and there are not many of us left. In fact, I have been promoted 5 times. Work 3 days a week on the side at a hospital and make close to my base doing that and don't have to deal with the BS coming from Lilly these days and losers like you. Make sure you post the day you get laid off in this next round on CP so I can have a good laugh.
You don't know crap. Your a low level HR hack paid to stir up shi* on CP. My guess is female, early 20's, dh. No one high up enough to know exactly who is getting cut the next round would be on here or use verbiage like you do. Why don't you do something useful with the money you make that I so graciously bring into the company. Like go find out and post what the lunch specials are in the cafeteria. Now that would be helpful darling.
I'm sure chatting with a 20 year old female is a wet dream of yours, but you couldn't be more off. But, as mentioned above, you certainly think so know it all. I really like the part where you claim to "graciously bring" money into the company. Nice of you to conveniently forget about everyone else who plays a role in bringing that money in. Of all of them, you are the most expendable and most easily replaceable. Sales reps are a dime a dozen, which is why we can cut 1/2 of you and not even see a blip on the radar. Ooops, did I let that slip? Enjoy the next few months....you may want to start saving a few bucks. Just sayin'.
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No need for me to save a few bucks darling, my stock split 3 times thanks to Prozac which made me a millionaire very young. Just doing this gig a couple more years to get my full pension. Hope you can say the same! Thinking that's not the case. I don't have a care in the world about being laid off because I have been financially independent for close to 20 years. Now where is they lunch menu?
As if inside people are not a dime a dozen?! LMAO! You sell your soul to go inside, then swarm like cockroaches to get out when you get wind of the next inside layoff! Very humorous to watch. Agree with pp that I have been flooded with calls over the years with inside people begging me to find them a job outside. None of us are safe. We are all getting phased out, but to act like reps are replaceable and ANYONE on the inside isn't is hysterical!
Lol! I'm sure the poster is financially set off of her stock splitting 5 times from Effient, Strattera, Xigris, Relprev and Amyvid! Prozac paid off my house, put my 3 kids through college and bought a franchise on the side, which pays for my lake house and country club membership. Would hate to be a college grad coming to work here now. Dead end job with no real bonuses anymore. Does Lilly even require a college degree anymore? That's a serious question. Not sure why the current job requirements would even call for one.
They will only accept a degree if it was obtained online from DeVry Institute or University of Phoenix. Otherwise HR knows that they will have to pay way too much for their employees. It also helps if the applicant has been on welfare or unemployment for at least 1-2 years and were deemed "not fit to hire" from other companies who actually have their shi* together.