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The New Reality of (what's left of) Merck Employees

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anonymous said:
To start your first paragraph, you should have used the contraction "you're", not the possessive "your". Then you immediately ridicule that poster with your "Mr. Big Brain" nonsense. Also, "scientist" should be plural. I'll accept that as a typo. The other mistake, along with the complete nonsense that is the entire post, demonstrates that the very post you ridicule is very correct.

You deliver small sample boxes to physicians. You just pray---and sometimes beg---that they take even just one box. That constitutes one of your "sales calls", as big a joke as that is. Your entire existence has centered around these fake "sales calls". Your daily routine is comprised of nothing but lies. In other words, you're a fraud. You're the joke and you're too stupid to realize that.
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You are very nasty and you speak the truth. Will you be my Valentine next month?
 
















anonymous said:
To start your first paragraph, you should have used the contraction "you're", not the possessive "your". Then you immediately ridicule that poster with your "Mr. Big Brain" nonsense. Also, "scientist" should be plural. I'll accept that as a typo. The other mistake, along with the complete nonsense that is the entire post, demonstrates that the very post you ridicule is very correct.

You deliver small sample boxes to physicians. You just pray---and sometimes beg---that they take even just one box. That constitutes one of your "sales calls", as big a joke as that is. Your entire existence has centered around these fake "sales calls". Your daily routine is comprised of nothing but lies. In other words, you're a fraud. You're the joke and you're too stupid to realize that.
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Look at that. Ms. "not that big of a brain" is chiming in. Good for you. Thanks for the help. Let me see if I am doing this right. You're fat. You're an idiot. I'm sure your hubby has to be hating life. I know about wedding crap but being with you could break any man. Talk about being sold a bag of crap.

Here are some facts. Sales and marketing people are actually underpaid. We bring in 40 plus billion a year. Have you looked at the 10-k? Sorry to see R&D has been cut every year for the last 5 years. But then again they never produced anything. They will continue to cut that budget for the next 10 years. Sooooooo Sooorrrry,

We are happy to drop off food and sample was long as the money keeps rolling in. I would be happy to bring in a dancer to sell more. Doctors like to feel young and providing some eye candy is a great thing. A little blink and flirting goes a long way. Naturally not from you. The doctors would kick the teams out.

I am sorry about making great money, joking around, and having a great time. The "sales calls" are a 40 billion dollar joke. The problem is we are laughing all the way to the bank. You are not. Long live Lance. A great man who always hooked up the people he liked. He is doing great.
 




anonymous said:
Look at that. Ms. "not that big of a brain" is chiming in. Good for you. Thanks for the help. Let me see if I am doing this right. You're fat. You're an idiot. I'm sure your hubby has to be hating life. I know about wedding crap but being with you could break any man. Talk about being sold a bag of crap.

Here are some facts. Sales and marketing people are actually underpaid. We bring in 40 plus billion a year. Have you looked at the 10-k? Sorry to see R&D has been cut every year for the last 5 years. But then again they never produced anything. They will continue to cut that budget for the next 10 years. Sooooooo Sooorrrry,

We are happy to drop off food and sample was long as the money keeps rolling in. I would be happy to bring in a dancer to sell more. Doctors like to feel young and providing some eye candy is a great thing. A little blink and flirting goes a long way. Naturally not from you. The doctors would kick the teams out.

I am sorry about making great money, joking around, and having a great time. The "sales calls" are a 40 billion dollar joke. The problem is we are laughing all the way to the bank. You are not. Long live Lance. A great man who always hooked up the people he liked. He is doing great.
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Peter Kim & Dick Clark royally screwed up when they abruptly withdrew Vioxx rather than working with agency to put a black box warning on it. They both weren't capable of growing the company, reorganize and cut. R&D discovered several drugs internally 3-10 years ago (Zepatier, Belsomra, Isentress, Januvia) but many great management & scientists discovering new drugs have been purged by self serving scientifically inept PowerPoint storytellers. They might be able to improve by first getting rid of Rich Tillyer, most of his reports Research senior managment. Bring back some management who actually know how to find good quality drug candidates.

Roger is a good evaluator of development candidates but isn't a strong leader discovering them.


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As a former senior manager, I can assure you that this is all true and accurate. Merck's demise began with the fall of Vioxx and was accelerated with the greatest series of R&D failures in pharmaceutical history. In short, Merck is where it is by its own accord. It's sad that more than half of the company's employees have been separated since then, with only a fraction having been replaced at a much smaller cost to the company, all because this company was so horribly managed.
 




anonymous said:
Peter Kim & Dick Clark royally screwed up when they abruptly withdrew Vioxx rather than working with agency to put a black box warning on it. They both weren't capable of growing the company, reorganize and cut. R&D discovered several drugs internally 3-10 years ago (Zepatier, Belsomra, Isentress, Januvia) but many great management & scientists discovering new drugs have been purged by self serving scientifically inept PowerPoint storytellers. They might be able to improve by first getting rid of Rich Tillyer, most of his reports Research senior managment. Bring back some management who actually know how to find good quality drug candidates.

Roger is a good evaluator of development candidates but isn't a strong leader discovering them.


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As a former senior manager, I can assure you that this is all true and accurate. Merck's demise began with the fall of Vioxx and was accelerated with the greatest series of R&D failures in pharmaceutical history. In short, Merck is where it is by its own accord. It's sad that more than half of the company's employees have been separated since then, with only a fraction having been replaced at a much smaller cost to the company, all because this company was so horribly managed.
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Black box on Vioxx, my ass. It was a killer drug. Our greed and lack of ethics kept it on the market even after we knew what a poison it was.

The rest of your post is accurate, we got what we deserved. In our heyday, it was said we could put horseshit in a bottle and sell it because we were Merck. No more. We’ve been on a downward spiral for a long time, and soon we’ll be in the sewer with the rest of Pharma.
 




anonymous said:
Black box on Vioxx, my ass. It was a killer drug. Our greed and lack of ethics kept it on the market even after we knew what a poison it was.

The rest of your post is accurate, we got what we deserved. In our heyday, it was said we could put horseshit in a bottle and sell it because we were Merck. No more. We’ve been on a downward spiral for a long time, and soon we’ll be in the sewer with the rest of Pharma.
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Around 20 years ago we hired a large batch of shit scientists that had degrees with no talent. That lasted around 5 years. RP will get it right.
 








anonymous said:
Black box on Vioxx, my ass. It was a killer drug. Our greed and lack of ethics kept it on the market even after we knew what a poison it was.

The rest of your post is accurate, we got what we deserved. In our heyday, it was said we could put horseshit in a bottle and sell it because we were Merck. No more. We’ve been on a downward spiral for a long time, and soon we’ll be in the sewer with the rest of Pharma.
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FYI, Merck is the sewer poster child.
 




I regret to tell you that many of the Pharma Company's were riding high not to long ago. Unfortunately, the vision to treat and possibly cure people of some terrible illness went missing. $ became the mantra. Profit was at the top of every discussion. The Company was flush with money from an every six month launch of a block buster that was introduced with a series of Merck, Sharpe, and "dine". I have never seen so much good food in my life. And the promo money never ran out. It's a different world now. Everyone is looking over your shoulder and your job is on the line for some silly little screw up like feeding the clean up crew in the office by ordering a little extra in for them. Taking the left overs down to the local homeless center and letting them eat the Beef Wellington and the Brie Cheese with all the trimmings. Such excess....for the offices....the starving folks really did appreciate it. It's sad! Really sad!!
 




anonymous said:
FYI, Merck is the sewer poster child.
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No way. Total scam for lawyers. Doctors were taking it off the shelves and bringing it home instead of allowing us to send it back to the Company. They knew it. No more cardio risk than your typical NSAID. Pfizer did the right thing with Celebrex by not withdrawing it. Some dude I went to high school with died while taking VIOXX. His widow got 500 K. The guy smoked 2 packs a day, previous heart attack, stent, but it was the VIOXX that killed him. Yeah right! He loved VIOXX it was the only thing that allowed him to go to work as a carpenter.
 




anonymous said:
No way. Total scam for lawyers. Doctors were taking it off the shelves and bringing it home instead of allowing us to send it back to the Company. They knew it. No more cardio risk than your typical NSAID. Pfizer did the right thing with Celebrex by not withdrawing it. Some dude I went to high school with died while taking VIOXX. His widow got 500 K. The guy smoked 2 packs a day, previous heart attack, stent, but it was the VIOXX that killed him. Yeah right! He loved VIOXX it was the only thing that allowed him to go to work as a carpenter.
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Vioxx was the killer. Celebrex was no more dangerous than naproxen or Ibuprofen. Bextra was the killer, same as Vioxx and got pulled. Pfizer in all their stupidity and greed should never have launched that poison.
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anonymous said:
Reading the posts about Merck's retirement musings led me to write this. It's time to acknowledge the reality…and Ken Frazieris not going to like what I have to say.

Over the last 12-13 years, Merck has actively minimized it's long-term costs by directly laying off tens of thousands of employees and also "encouraging" the departure of tens of thousands more. At the start of this mess, those in "protected groups" (an actual legal term) technically included employees over 40, but the white males had very little chance of successful age discrimination claims unless they were over 50 when they were pressured out. Hence, Merck was hesitant to target for removal those employees over fifty, in general, as those law suits would have made getting rid of those employees very expensive. Thus, we now have a much older sales force (average age is 51), with a smattering of contract reps and some very young reps that make very little and have virtually no impact on long-term costs (no pension for you!). So, those that were older back then are now retiring employees who are reaching that coveted goal, but it is indeed a shrinking group.

As a former senior manager, I can assure you that this is all true and accurate. Merck's demise began with the fall of Vioxx and was accelerated with the greatest series of R&D failures in pharmaceutical history. In short, Merck is where it is by its own accord. It's sad that more than half of the company's employees have been separated since then, with only a fraction having been replaced at a much smaller cost to the company, all because this company was so horribly managed.

As others have indicated, it is truly tragic that Merck's "leadership" has profited mightily since this all began.The billions of dollars (literally) paid to those executives who conceived and implemented the plan to sever the financial ---and often mental---health of our own fellow employees could have been used to soften the blow to those former employees and their families considerably. Instead, Merck's "leaders" have quietly enriched themselves while destroying countless lives with reckless abandon. It is truly shameful.

The anonymous nature of this forum affords me the opportunity to share this with you. Most of us with legal exposure to sharing information like this simply take their cash and drift away. I simply can't fail to acknowledge that thousands of very good people were made to look guilty as they were dismissed or, more often, pressured to quit by very underhanded means. It is a disgraceful organization.
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This must make our fearless "leaders" want to crawl under a rock. They truly are disgraceful.
 




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