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The “fine, leave” attitude is what is wrong with this company. Instead of looking inward and assessing the reasons why hundreds of reps have left over the last few weeks, they point the finger at those leaving. I am a long tenured, successful rep who has been crapped on for several years now. I love this company and the people I work with but eventually I have to put myself first. I’m going to start interviewing also. It’s not because I don’t want to stay. I do. It’s because the company doesn’t want to change…and if and when I leave, it won’t be because I wanted to. It’ll be because I had to.

And yeah, one rep leaving won’t change the company…but what about 100 or 1000 over a few years? The reason we are where we are is because we lost good people to other companies.
 












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The “fine, leave” attitude is what is wrong with this company. Instead of looking inward and assessing the reasons why hundreds of reps have left over the last few weeks, they point the finger at those leaving. I am a long tenured, successful rep who has been crapped on for several years now. I love this company and the people I work with but eventually I have to put myself first. I’m going to start interviewing also. It’s not because I don’t want to stay. I do. It’s because the company doesn’t want to change…and if and when I leave, it won’t be because I wanted to. It’ll be because I had to.

And yeah, one rep leaving won’t change the company…but what about 100 or 1000 over a few years? The reason we are where we are is because we lost good people to other companies.
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Good people want to work for good companies..... I’m long-time employee as well. I have one word for NNI..... SHAME
 




anonymous said:
The “fine, leave” attitude is what is wrong with this company. Instead of looking inward and assessing the reasons why hundreds of reps have left over the last few weeks, they point the finger at those leaving. I am a long tenured, successful rep who has been crapped on for several years now. I love this company and the people I work with but eventually I have to put myself first. I’m going to start interviewing also. It’s not because I don’t want to stay. I do. It’s because the company doesn’t want to change…and if and when I leave, it won’t be because I wanted to. It’ll be because I had to.

And yeah, one rep leaving won’t change the company…but what about 100 or 1000 over a few years? The reason we are where we are is because we lost good people to other companies.
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I think you’re making too big of a deal out of this. You left a company to come to NNI, and you’ll probably leave NNI to go somewhere else. In NNI US, how many people can you recall as having retired from NNI with 20+ years? I can’t think of any. It’s just a job, and you’re just an employee. It’s disappointing when a company you’ve worked hard for is no longer a place you want to work, but people change and companies change, and almost all of us find ourselves moving on multiple times on our career. That’s ok. NNI will become whatever it will, and you’ll move on to something you like better. Rather than act like your dissatisfaction is some sort of referendum on NNI, why not just chalk it up to it being time to move on. It’s all ok. Everyone will be fine. NNI is bad for some people and good for some people. Who cares? It’s just a job.
 




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I think you’re making too big of a deal out of this. You left a company to come to NNI, and you’ll probably leave NNI to go somewhere else. In NNI US, how many people can you recall as having retired from NNI with 20+ years? I can’t think of any. It’s just a job, and you’re just an employee. It’s disappointing when a company you’ve worked hard for is no longer a place you want to work, but people change and companies change, and almost all of us find ourselves moving on multiple times on our career. That’s ok. NNI will become whatever it will, and you’ll move on to something you like better. Rather than act like your dissatisfaction is some sort of referendum on NNI, why not just chalk it up to it being time to move on. It’s all ok. Everyone will be fine. NNI is bad for some people and good for some people. Who cares? It’s just a job.
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fair enough...
 




anonymous said:
I think you’re making too big of a deal out of this. You left a company to come to NNI, and you’ll probably leave NNI to go somewhere else. In NNI US, how many people can you recall as having retired from NNI with 20+ years? I can’t think of any. It’s just a job, and you’re just an employee. It’s disappointing when a company you’ve worked hard for is no longer a place you want to work, but people change and companies change, and almost all of us find ourselves moving on multiple times on our career. That’s ok. NNI will become whatever it will, and you’ll move on to something you like better. Rather than act like your dissatisfaction is some sort of referendum on NNI, why not just chalk it up to it being time to move on. It’s all ok. Everyone will be fine. NNI is bad for some people and good for some people. Who cares? It’s just a job.
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You’re confused. It’s the COMPANY that will suffer as a result of their decline, not me. You’re right, many will move on - maybe I will soon enough too - but this exodus is detrimental to the company and the executives (who are paid to deliver value to shareholders and so should care) are sitting on their hands while their most valuable asset leaves en masse.
 




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You’re confused. It’s the COMPANY that will suffer as a result of their decline, not me. You’re right, many will move on - maybe I will soon enough too - but this exodus is detrimental to the company and the executives (who are paid to deliver value to shareholders and so should care) are sitting on their hands while their most valuable asset leaves en masse.
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Agree! BUT the stock currently is at a all-time high and that’s what’s important to the higher ups
 








anonymous said:
You’re confused. It’s the COMPANY that will suffer as a result of their decline, not me. You’re right, many will move on - maybe I will soon enough too - but this exodus is detrimental to the company and the executives (who are paid to deliver value to shareholders and so should care) are sitting on their hands while their most valuable asset leaves en masse.
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It will be a small blip for the company, quickly and easily forgotten 12 months from now. I think you overestimate the collective value of the people who are leaving. There are very talented people waiting to replace all of us. Plus, if 100-150 leave, it will give them an excuse to merge territories and forge ahead with fewer people, which the market will love. This is just the reality of this industry. People come and go, and the companies who lose people don’t care one bit.
 




anonymous said:
You’re confused. It’s the COMPANY that will suffer as a result of their decline, not me. You’re right, many will move on - maybe I will soon enough too - but this exodus is detrimental to the company and the executives (who are paid to deliver value to shareholders and so should care) are sitting on their hands while their most valuable asset leaves en masse.
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Reps are not our most valuable assets. Stop aggrandizing the people that are not allowed to think or act independently in their jobs.
 








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Yes, how will we ever find someone else as good as you at ordering sandwiches?
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Truth is if a company’s Human Resources which includes sales force teams, no one would be hiring sales forces. Not only hiring them but paying base salaries not easily obtained in other industries. So do yourself a favor go deliver sandwiches while the rest of the good reps move business.
 








anonymous said:
It will be a small blip for the company, quickly and easily forgotten 12 months from now. I think you overestimate the collective value of the people who are leaving. There are very talented people waiting to replace all of us. Plus, if 100-150 leave, it will give them an excuse to merge territories and forge ahead with fewer people, which the market will love. This is just the reality of this industry. People come and go, and the companies who lose people don’t care one bit.
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Yes, that’s exactly why Novo has underperformed most other big Pharma companies over the last 5 years. All the layoffs, reorgs and talent leaving is perfectly healthy for a company. You have to be a self-aggrandizing DBM…a position that actually could be mostly eliminated without a reduction in productivity.
 




anonymous said:
Truth is if a company’s Human Resources which includes sales force teams, no one would be hiring sales forces. Not only hiring them but paying base salaries not easily obtained in other industries. So do yourself a favor go deliver sandwiches while the rest of the good reps move business.
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Go troll somewhere else.
 




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Reps are not our most valuable assets. Stop aggrandizing the people that are not allowed to think or act independently in their jobs.
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Well our products don’t sell themselves dipshit. And if we could think for ourselves and not be directed by the idiots on the brand team then we would have successful launches. This company misguides the sales force every single time. We the force, then have to make up for lost ground once we see how we actually need to sell the products.
 








anonymous said:
Yes, that’s exactly why Novo has underperformed most other big Pharma companies over the last 5 years. All the layoffs, reorgs and talent leaving is perfectly healthy for a company. You have to be a self-aggrandizing DBM…a position that actually could be mostly eliminated without a reduction in productivity.
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Sure. That’s it. It couldn’t be a dwindling pipeline, massive cuts into insulin profits, and biosimilar competition. It must be your self-serving belief that you’re super good and the company falls apart without you. Whatever, dude. I’m not sure why you feel like you’re so much better than the 25 people lined up to take your job if you leave, but more power to you. I love that ego!
 




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