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[anonymous]

First of all it would take 2 managers to play good cop bad cop wise guy - sorry to break that news to you. Might be why your 1 bad day ride day & 1 good guy ride day aren’t bearing fruit. And your shenanigans don’t benefit anyone especially not you or your family bc you make us so miserable that we all lose money. It takes me days to recover after my manager has ride days with me.

I thought I was the only one. It’s pretty clear we’re at a breaking point and I’m glad to see people speaking up. There are rds out there right now actively trying to make reps lives miserable. I know people who go home crying after the rd has been on a ride along. And not just in my region so it’s happening everywhere. That’s not the Supernus I was sold. And before you say “bounce then” or whatever other bullshit, the industry I came from thinks that pharm reps are entitled and worthless so this is a huge shit bag on my resume and the pharm industry laughs at my experience with Supernus. I screwed myself over by coming here. AND NOW it looks like I’m going to have an underwhelming drug to sell. Again. IF it’s approved. And no one is talking about the other one, so what’s the story? Is it done? I gave up a lot to come here. I too made more at my last job but bought into the idea that pharm would eventually pay better and this would get my foot in the door. And after watching the ridiculous amount of layoffs at other companies in the last year, coupled with less and less access and more offices that won’t take lunches or samples, I’m feeling pretty hopeless and it seems like Supernus just keeps kicking me in the ass. I try to look at the bright side, though. I like my fellow reps and I’ve appreciated the good benefits. That’s helped with the sting of making such a shit decision to come here. But if I find something to get me back on track with my last career, I’m out of here. Not an underperformer, btw. I’ve never missed a bonus. And also, I found out a couple years ago that other companies pay the way the other poster said they do. It’s true and we have been duped

 

[anonymous]

This is how they really feel about us fellas. That’s why anything positive feels scripted.

Let me turn the tables on you a little bit. Why are you on here RD? Did you get bored playing Candy Crush during your ride along? If you were worth your sly, you’d focus that energy on something positive, but yet you’re on here whining. RDs at this company are arrogant and worthless. I bet half of us started on migraine meds just to make it through our ride alongs

Ahahaha To whoever wrote this you just made my day, I’m sure glad I’m not the only one who feels this way.

 

[anonymous]

It’s evident no one posting on this thread realizes Supernus’ grand strategy. They want you to quit to replace you with a $50k per year rep.

I’m staying to punish them and I’d recommenced you do also.

 

[anonymous]

It’s evident no one posting on this thread realizes Supernus’ grand strategy. They want you to quit to replace you with a $50k per year rep.

I’m staying to punish them and I’d recommenced you do also.

I’m convinced this has to be true

 

[anonymous]

I have personally felt the frustration in every single post. I’ve had an rd talk to me like a dog and I’ve wondered why they even have those positions since they contribute very little to what we do. Good salespeople don’t often make good managers. I’ve watched my numbers go up when I’m left to my own devices and then go down when my rd decides to “meet the writers” , decides to spend too many 2-days with me or spends half a day every time in a sit down, until I completely lose my confidence and he goes home feeling like he’s accomplished something, or something. I’ve had offices tell me not to bring my rd in there again and a couple that I tell him to stay in the car because I don’t even want them to see him. They can really crap on your day and lately that’s happening more often. To the point that co-workers and people I went to ist with, and haven’t talked to in years, have started calling and texting each other to vent and at least get some empathy. And then when there’s a questionable future, at least from our limited perspective, I think everybody just went into panic mode. (We can’t even sell our stock for like 3/4 of the year. Is that even normal? I was told that somebody at corporate sold during blackout at a low price, which probably has had a lot to do with what you’re seeing on cp. Why would he do that, why can’t we and what does that mean for us?) The panic is because most of us care about our jobs, need the money and we don’t want to be taken for fools. We bought into the “we love our people” message, and now we’re all wondering if you really mean it, or are we going to be left high and dry. (The ad at the top of this post right now says that yet another company is laying off reps.)

But overall I’m happy as a person and have decided to stick it out. Maybe we’ll get bought out or maybe eventually I’ll get laid off with a severance and I’ll be forced to look elsewhere. I am mostly home at a decent hour and can plan things with my kids. Have weekends off. Drive a nice car. And don’t have to worry about health insurance. Sure I wish the rds would stop being a-holes and realize that they really don’t help much and they’re really not all that important. I’ve been stressed before, so much at an upcoming ride along, that I’ve either worried myself sick, or called in sick. And I know I’m not the only one. I’ve heard people say it. I get angry and feel like I want to quit more often than I used to. I get frustrated when I don’t have growth because I’m doing everything I’m trained to do and I have good access outside of institutions. I wish our drugs were more ground breaking and less middle of the road. I wish shiny new drugs never hit the market. I can think of a million reasons why this gig sucks right now.

But I like the people I talk to every day in the offices and I go home happy most of the time, which is good for my home life So there’s that. I hope everybody feels better, getting a chance to vent. Feel validated in your experience and hopefully corporate will give the rds a gut check

 

[anonymous]

I really appreciate everyone coming forward with their own struggles right now. I know this site can be a lot of negativity but I believe the posts I have read here are from reps that truly still believe in Supernus and just wish it could be better. It’s hard being alone in your car all day thinking you are the only one losing it. Since day one Supernus has not wanted to hear what the reps have to say though. Maybe it was because we had no experience and I understand that but at this point it’s pathetic. Every CC every POA we all sit around and pretend like everything is ok. Greatest company ever greatest products every and it’s clearly not true. God save your soul though if you were to ever disagree because they do not want to hear it. I’m not saying the have to say products suck but stop laying the crap on so thick all the time it makes people sick. Let’s have a real conversation about how to sell these products instead of these fairytales they come up with in Rockville. I’m so sick of these worthless messages they roll out every quarter and act like this is the message that’s going to get it done.

 

[anonymous]

I really appreciate everyone coming forward with their own struggles right now. I know this site can be a lot of negativity but I believe the posts I have read here are from reps that truly still believe in Supernus and just wish it could be better. It’s hard being alone in your car all day thinking you are the only one losing it. Since day one Supernus has not wanted to hear what the reps have to say though. Maybe it was because we had no experience and I understand that but at this point it’s pathetic. Every CC every POA we all sit around and pretend like everything is ok. Greatest company ever greatest products every and it’s clearly not true. God save your soul though if you were to ever disagree because they do not want to hear it. I’m not saying the have to say products suck but stop laying the crap on so thick all the time it makes people sick. Let’s have a real conversation about how to sell these products instead of these fairytales they come up with in Rockville. I’m so sick of these worthless messages they roll out every quarter and act like this is the message that’s going to get it done.

Ha! Glad some of you guys are starting to see the real picture. That sugar in the koolaid is starting to get weak. The only way they get buy in, is because you’re naive to the industry. Glad to see some of you are finally starting to mature. Maybe “Someone” cashed out at the right time cause he knew something was going down? Coincidence??? I think not! Insiders have the advantage when they are more aware of certain information. There are sharks no matter where you go, just try not being the shark bait.

 

[anonymous]

Fellow rep here, just want to say that you posters sound like a bunch of whiny entitled enterprise jokers! I left my old job to get away from you!! While you complain about your RDs on here (you don’t even realize that the RDs here are the best in the industry) I’ll be out moving market share and making coin with the crazy $$$$$$ bonus plan this quarter!!! I know 99% of my fellow reps agree with me!!! Let’s go out there and grow our company!!!

 

[anonymous]

Fellow rep here, just want to say that you posters sound like a bunch of whiny entitled enterprise jokers! I left my old job to get away from you!! While you complain about your RDs on here (you don’t even realize that the RDs here are the best in the industry) I’ll be out moving market share and making coin with the crazy $$$$$$ bonus plan this quarter!!! I know 99% of my fellow reps agree with me!!! Let’s go out there and grow our company!!!

Is this real life? Shut it RD

 

[anonymous]

Fellow rep here, just want to say that you posters sound like a bunch of whiny entitled enterprise jokers! I left my old job to get away from you!! While you complain about your RDs on here (you don’t even realize that the RDs here are the best in the industry) I’ll be out moving market share and making coin with the crazy $$$$$$ bonus plan this quarter!!! I know 99% of my fellow reps agree with me!!! Let’s go out there and grow our company!!!

Posts like this, exactly why there won’t be much more growth. Kick us while we’re trying to get some momentum, asshole. We know our bonus is your bonus, and well, this isn’t exactly motivating. Maybe you should have bought a smaller house

 

[anonymous]

Fellow rep here, just want to say that you posters sound like a bunch of whiny entitled enterprise jokers! I left my old job to get away from you!! While you complain about your RDs on here (you don’t even realize that the RDs here are the best in the industry) I’ll be out moving market share and making coin with the crazy $$$$$$ bonus plan this quarter!!! I know 99% of my fellow reps agree with me!!! Let’s go out there and grow our company!!!

fElLoW rEp HeRe

hahaha get a life. What a fucking joke

 

[anonymous]

“Best in industry” Yeah, okay buddy. You know this with your expansive Enterprise experience, huh.

That’s why when I ask for help during a ride along, my RD without fail tells me to ask my colleagues. Best in industry answers

 

[anonymous]

Fellow rep here, just want to say that you posters sound like a bunch of whiny entitled enterprise jokers! I left my old job to get away from you!! While you complain about your RDs on here (you don’t even realize that the RDs here are the best in the industry) I’ll be out moving market share and making coin with the crazy $$$$$$ bonus plan this quarter!!! I know 99% of my fellow reps agree with me!!! Let’s go out there and grow our company!!!

There are soooo many things about this post that make me want to vomit. Fellow rep, my ass. Hard to tell if your eyes are red from the koolaid you’ve been steeping in or if it’s the Vyvanse that you’ve been on since you left Shire.

You RDs are jokes. But let me put my happy face on as I get ready to go to POA this week. Can’t wait to see what the theme is!!! So excited to see how they will reinterpret our same BS data - but this time.....wait for it......we have.....a NEW inspirational quote!!! Woohoo!! And there are STREAMERS, you guys! STREAMERS!! And they made some really significant changes to our visual aid!! Omg this page that was bluish green is now greenish blue!!!!! What do you guys like about that?!?! Huh?!?! Really going to make a big impact now, amiright???

 

[anonymous]

There are soooo many things about this post that make me want to vomit. Fellow rep, my ass. Hard to tell if your eyes are red from the koolaid you’ve been steeping in or if it’s the Vyvanse that you’ve been on since you left Shire.

You RDs are jokes. But let me put my happy face on as I get ready to go to POA this week. Can’t wait to see what the theme is!!! So excited to see how they will reinterpret our same BS data - but this time.....wait for it......we have.....a NEW inspirational quote!!! Woohoo!! And there are STREAMERS, you guys! STREAMERS!! And they made some really significant changes to our visual aid!! Omg this page that was bluish green is now greenish blue!!!!! What do you guys like about that?!?! Huh?!?! Really going to make a big impact now, amiright???

This rep for sure workers here. I love when we go around the room and all have to pretend this “new” data is going to save the world. Don’t even get me started on the “data”. Our “data” is the biggest joke in this industry. Stupid chart pull give me a break. You know why no doc believes our migraine freedom rates????? Because they are completely made up and it’s obvious but once again we are heading to a POA where they will parade this data around as being the reason why every patient should be switched. Have some respect for yourself people

 

[anonymous]

At this stage in the game Supernus doesn't need to be focusing on any additional data or studies for our current portfolio. Having said that what Supernus does need to be concerned about their short term business plan that they continue to reset every year and a half to two years. This short term business plan on how to attack our doctors is just that ATTACK YOUR DOCTORS. This can be very damaging when you don't have reputable data to EVER discuss. I am certain this will be a central focus at this POA to ATTACK your doctors. This is far from healthy and far from sustainable, the path you are getting ready to send us down will damage our relationships with doctors over the next 10 years.

Since you aren't supplying us with reputable or new data please STFU and leave us alone.

 

[anonymous]

RD salary at Supernus is below industry average and that’s a fact

ALL IN compensation at Supernus:

Good year for RD $300k
Good year for Rep $$150k

So if RD salaries at Supernus is below industry average as you say I wonder what you would say for Rep reimbursement. Are we below industry average? ​

 

[anonymous]

ALL IN compensation at Supernus:

Good year for RD $300k
Good year for Rep $$150k

So if RD salaries at Supernus is below industry average as you say I wonder what you would say for Rep reimbursement. Are we below industry average? ​

Are these for real? I don’t know ANYBODY making that, or even close. The RDs I know are closer to what you wrote for rep $$. And I don’t know many reps that are hitting $100k consistently

 

[anonymous]

Are these for real? I don’t know ANYBODY making that, or even close. The RDs I know are closer to what you wrote for rep $$. And I don’t know many reps that are hitting $100k consistently

Nowhere in the post does it say these numbers are consistent. In fact, it says these numbers are based off a “good year”.

 

[anonymous]

ALL IN compensation at Supernus:

Good year for RD $300k
Good year for Rep $$150k

So if RD salaries at Supernus is below industry average as you say I wonder what you would say for Rep reimbursement. Are we below industry average? ​

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[anonymous]

Are these for real? I don’t know ANYBODY making that, or even close. The RDs I know are closer to what you wrote for rep $$. And I don’t know many reps that are hitting $100k consistently

Not to be mean but it’s probably only the bottom 20% not making over $100k. I’ve been pretty consitently ranked in the middle and haven’t made less than $100k since my first year where we were only selling OXR and salaries were $50k.

Again not being a jerk, but aside from all the negativity on this site, there are some reps who are consistently successful working in our model and selling our products. So maybe talk to them, see what they do differently than you, and try to replicate it.