Retired Hospira HR Manager Taking Any Questions


There are some of us spinners who are still with HSP and will collect a (small) pension from the Abbott/Hospira transition annuity plan when we leave. I guess since the majority of us are likely to be "leaving" (not of our own free will) we will want to start collecting soon. The question I have is the date of Pfizer purchase the last day at Hospira for pension calculation purposes - regardless of when we actually leave after the purchase date?

If you make it to Pfizer, they will have to, by law, blend your pension into theirs. If you don't, then yes, your last day with HSP will be it for you.
 
























Maybe Iam not understanding, You couldn't have an Abbott pension/medical if you worked for HSP! The ONLY exception was is you were rehired by Abbott after 2 year no hire rule expired. OR You were the people usually with 20+ years senoriority that were given the option to TEMPORARLY stay at Hospira after spin for several months and guaranteed Abbott package THESE are the only people that actually worked for HSP but left with Abbott package.

HR eek:U S A:eek: GUY
Well- I'm really starting wonder if you are a retired HR guy or if you are just someone who came in after the spin and understands the mentality of HSP. So the following is how it came down in 2004 I had 24 yrs of service with Abbott and was over 50 I could have done the following.
1. Start taking my full retirement immediately after the spin - but I would have been out of a job and receive no separation payment (package) since I would be voluntarily retiring from Abbott and Hospira would have no job for me. Not to mention the 2yr no hire agreement.

2. Be terminated from Abbott and immediately rehired by HSP with my retirement benefits intact at the amount I had earned up to that point with my pension continuing to grow through the end of 2004, then the pension would be frozen. Since the last 10 yrs is when the pension matured the most I and many like me got royally screwed. I will be getting about 50% of what I would have if the spin wouldn't have taken place or Begely and White hadn't stolen it from us.

3. There were no employees given packages. There was nothing special about having 20+ yrs with Abbott. The cut off was 10yrs service and 50 yrs old, PERIOD. No one came over temporarily to HSP and then get a package. There have been a few people who went back to Abbott after the 2 yr freeze but they came back as new hires. There may have been one or two who made a special deal but this would have been way out of policy.

4. We were not allowed to collect our Abbott pensions while we were still employed by HSP. This had nothing to do with legality only Begley's/HSPs policy. Now that I am retired I can get my pension from the ABBOTT/HOSPIRA TRANISTIONAL PENSION PLAN the phone # is 866 345 4278
I also qualify for the ABBOTT retiree health plan which as I said in another post is very expensive for what you get. It really seems to be designed for those who are not old enough to get medicare.

So Mr. HR Guy you have given a lot of good advice in your posts, however in this matter I know you have no real knowledge base.
 








I like Mr HR Guy. I agree he has been helpful. He has a lot of people that follow him - maybe more than 60,000 ? No one knows everything - good that you made the clarification for him (maybe he is getting too old and should contemplate eventual retirement?). Your post was helpful for me too.
Keep going Mr HR guy. In lieu of our inept leadership, scantiness of communication and wearisome change we keep up to date and get some comfort from your posts.
 
















I like Mr HR Guy. I agree he has been helpful. He has a lot of people that follow him - maybe more than 60,000 ? No one knows everything - good that you made the clarification for him (maybe he is getting too old and should contemplate eventual retirement?). Your post was helpful for me too.
Keep going Mr HR guy. In lieu of our inept leadership, scantiness of communication and wearisome change we keep up to date and get some comfort from your posts.

60,000 views is not 60,000 people.

The problem with HR, HR Guy, Retired HR Manager, etc is these all different posers with distinct writing styles. IMO they are all phonies, like those guys who go around claiming they are war heroes. One so-called HR Guy even implied he is a male prostitute on the weekends - he gets "laid and paid on the weekends." Maybe he does work in HR during the week. I don't know. If you want to take advice from such a person, it is your life. To me this strictly entertainment for laughs.
 








Well- I'm really starting wonder if you are a retired HR guy or if you are just someone who came in after the spin and understands the mentality of HSP. So the following is how it came down in 2004 I had 24 yrs of service with Abbott and was over 50 I could have done the following.
1. Start taking my full retirement immediately after the spin - but I would have been out of a job and receive no separation payment (package) since I would be voluntarily retiring from Abbott and Hospira would have no job for me. Not to mention the 2yr no hire agreement.

2. Be terminated from Abbott and immediately rehired by HSP with my retirement benefits intact at the amount I had earned up to that point with my pension continuing to grow through the end of 2004, then the pension would be frozen. Since the last 10 yrs is when the pension matured the most I and many like me got royally screwed. I will be getting about 50% of what I would have if the spin wouldn't have taken place or Begely and White hadn't stolen it from us.

3. There were no employees given packages. There was nothing special about having 20+ yrs with Abbott. The cut off was 10yrs service and 50 yrs old, PERIOD. No one came over temporarily to HSP and then get a package. There have been a few people who went back to Abbott after the 2 yr freeze but they came back as new hires. There may have been one or two who made a special deal but this would have been way out of policy.

4. We were not allowed to collect our Abbott pensions while we were still employed by HSP. This had nothing to do with legality only Begley's/HSPs policy. Now that I am retired I can get my pension from the ABBOTT/HOSPIRA TRANISTIONAL PENSION PLAN the phone # is 866 345 4278
I also qualify for the ABBOTT retiree health plan which as I said in another post is very expensive for what you get. It really seems to be designed for those who are not old enough to get medicare.

So Mr. HR Guy you have given a lot of good advice in your posts, however in this matter I know you have no real knowledge base.

I was referring to the package as Abbott Pension/Medical not severance. It's all good
You still question my validity on here ? How many times do I have to prove over and over
again I know what the game plan is for Hospira and it comes from upper level sources

H_-{:eek:}-_R
 








Mr HR Guy
I am with you and whether it is 60.000 views or 60,000 people it is certainly impressive. Keep it up. You posts are the best source of quality Intel on this cafe pharma site. Yes that is meant to be a compliment :)
 








Mr HR Guy
I am with you and whether it is 60.000 views or 60,000 people it is certainly impressive. Keep it up. You posts are the best source of quality Intel on this cafe pharma site. Yes that is meant to be a compliment :)

OK, HR guy. I have to add that you are very entertaining and enjoy some of your drunken rants.
 








I was referring to the package as Abbott Pension/Medical not severance. It's all good
You still question my validity on here ? How many times do I have to prove over and over
again I know what the game plan is for Hospira and it comes from upper level sources

H_-{:eek:}-_R


So, Hr Guy, you are in the upper level to know everything yet are too insignificant to have influenced the way Hospira ran things all these years??

Well, you are equally insignificant here.
 








I was referring to the package as Abbott Pension/Medical not severance. It's all good
You still question my validity on here ? How many times do I have to prove over and over
again I know what the game plan is for Hospira and it comes from upper level sources

H_-{:eek:}-_R
Nice Try HR Guy to cover your ignorance on the subject.
anyone knows a pension or retirement medical is not a "package" especially if you have to wait for 10+ yrs to collect.
 








Hi HR Manager

I am wondering if could please tell me if the production technician jobs in Australia will be safe despite the Pfizer deal? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!
 
















































Does Hospira have paid maternity leave, and if so, how long? I'm trying to get this answered from HR but, shockingly, keep getting the run-around! And the benefits department told me they can't tell me until I actually go on maternity leave!

Thanks in advance!