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Anonymous said:
YOu notice that they have cut bonuses also. With this commission bit, you have to sell way more than 100% to make your targeted bonus. The money for Reclast sucks
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Here at Amgen we are getting a minimum of $30K targeted bonus and for Q4 2009 we are getting paid close to $9500 and we don't even have a drug yet! That's one reason right there as to why I left that shithole of a company in Novartis. I know, I know, we don't have a drug yet, but it's coming and the bonus money will be ridiculous.
 






Anonymous said:
Here at Amgen we are getting a minimum of $30K targeted bonus and for Q4 2009 we are getting paid close to $9500 and we don't even have a drug yet! That's one reason right there as to why I left that shithole of a company in Novartis. I know, I know, we don't have a drug yet, but it's coming and the bonus money will be ridiculous.
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Amen to that! Sorry my old Novartis friends.
 












Anonymous said:
Patients will brown bag the drug. Offices are used to buying disposables and not getting their money back right away. Doctors will use this drug because it's better for their patients, not to make a buck. Patients will want it and be willing to pay for it because then don't want to break their leg/hip and they don't want to have to take a pill every day/week/month.

If it were easy they wouldn't need us. This is going to be a great drug to sell.
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It's been more that 2 yrs, do you still think the same? I know I don't!
 






Despite what De, JJ and DV may think, Physicians are not fools. They have figured out who makes the big buck$ when Reclast is used and it ain't them!

Do the math. The Doc gets less than $90 for the infusion and maybe makes $30 on the drug. They have to wait weeks to get reimbursed. For this he went through medical training (7+years) and needs to spend a half hour with the infusion and set-up, possibly having to hire a nurse as well. Reclast costs the Doc about $1100 and it is known to be about 85% profitable for NVS.

So what is the final tally on a Reclast dose. MD = $125; NVS = $800+ !!!

Would NVS be interested in this business model if the tables were reversed?
 






I am a PA. We give Reclast and have for many years here at an IM clinic.

We do a consult first for the Reclast- which we bag about $120 for(99213). (15min visit) Then we charge the IV fee for the actual infusion which we do a week later once the patient is approved- $90 visit (96365). We charge about $200 more for the Reclast than what we get it for, so we get about $400 per patient. We do about 5 a month. The tubing is very cheap- $6. It takes 2 minutes for the nurse to get it approved and order the medicine. (so it brings in about $20K plus a year for us). The hospital infusion center charges $7,000 for it! So, patients from other clinics beg for us to give it to them, and transfer here to our clinic to get it, rather than stay with their PCP who sends them to the expensive infusion center. At the infusion center it takes 2 hours to give it, here, 20 minutes.

Patients love it, their medicare supplements cover it, so it is usually covered at 100%. Our Dexa's are improving at great numbers!

BUT---- I can't wait for Prolia to come out- beware!!! Amgen has a GREAT product here!
 


















I just saw this in the sales bulletin. I'm concerned about the future of GM-8. Reclast is going to a contract field force. It makes me wonder what's ahead in 2010. The PCPs aren't adopting this product and they don't need all of us to promote Patch and Enablex.
 






Anonymous said:
I just saw this in the sales bulletin. I'm concerned about the future of GM-8. Reclast is going to a contract field force. It makes me wonder what's ahead in 2010. The PCPs aren't adopting this product and they don't need all of us to promote Patch and Enablex.
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Don't get your panties in a knot. Reclasdt although be promoted just to OB's by this contract sales force will never go totally to contract. Take my word they are only using this contract to help sales in this speciality. If Prolia is approved on July which probably will happen, they will need the extra share of voice. If anyones job is on the line is GM9
 






Anonymous said:
Two weeks ago I received the reclast infusion at Baltimore Washington Medical Center. They billed my insurance - Blue Cross and Blue Shield $6,363.16 for the medicine. The entire procedure was billed at $6,555.07. It has been paid by my insurance, however my share is $966.52. Needless to say I have contact the drug company for a investigation and will be contacting BCBS as well. I suffer from pagent's disease as well as Osterporosis but I know I can't afford this treatment.
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Check the kind of BC/BS drug plan you have. If you have a co-pay mail order plan, rather than have the MD supply the drug for you, ask or demand your right for an Rx that you can mail in to the BC/BS pharmacy for a three month supply. You might be surprised and get 3 months worth, although a grumpy doctor, because 3 months ordered by mail order could total less than $120. All the doc can do then is bill you for the office use etc. and that is not much at all.
 






Ach! Ve vill crush you mit Reclast.

Ze doktors vill make more gelt mit Reclast und zo vill Nofartas!

Vait until ze unexpected zide effekts of prolia kick in.

Infektionz, tumorz uzw.
 






Another fact about Reclast and drugs alike...
US is the only country in the world that allows distributors to skyrocket prices without ANY price ceilings whatsoever! This makes it very difficult for seniors to afford treatment.
One of the ways to bring these prices down is to buy using international distributors as the prices are twice, sometimes 3 times lower.
Yes, FDA gives a "warranty" on the drugs imported into the US through a US distributor. However, our weakening economy and outrageous prices only contribute to the issue of the senior citizens.
 






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