Predictions for Takeda 2013

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Ha Ha! Poster #61 you must be the one pouring the Kool Aid if you really think that there is not going to be some kind of trimming of reps somewhere down the line. Doesn't matter if you are or are not the "Best of the Best", when corporate profits start to drop they will find their own way to bring them back up & cutbacks are the easiest & quickest way to do this.
 




Anonymous said:
Isn't is funny that people who don't want to even possibly admit that something might happen always want reassurances that someone has to give them facts to prove an issue when all they have to do is look around at the entire industry to see the trend that all companies are getting by fewer reps to sell the same number or fewer products. It's called corporate profits & with more cost controls on drugs & doctor access getting tighter & tighter you would have to be terribly simple minded to not even consider that something like this could eventually happen.
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I asked why you think that we will have layoffs and your response is every company is in the same boat??? People that come on here saying specifically that we are in trouble and I wonder why? We are not too big and we are not preparing for a launch. Are size is not contingent on any drugs getting approved. Now if something drastically changes, then yeah, we will be in trouble. But I think I am ok with Takeda. Granted its not what it used to be (selling one drug in one market) but you were never going to make a ton of money here. We have limitations as to how much we can make but the bonus structure hasn't changed in years and its not terrible. So why will there be layoffs?
 




Anonymous said:
I asked why you think that we will have layoffs and your response is every company is in the same boat??? People that come on here saying specifically that we are in trouble and I wonder why? We are not too big and we are not preparing for a launch. Are size is not contingent on any drugs getting approved. Now if something drastically changes, then yeah, we will be in trouble. But I think I am ok with Takeda. Granted its not what it used to be (selling one drug in one market) but you were never going to make a ton of money here. We have limitations as to how much we can make but the bonus structure hasn't changed in years and its not terrible. So why will there be layoffs?
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Because you once had a drug that represented 4 BILLION dollars to the company.....and now you don't.

Get it now, sparky?
 




Anonymous said:
I asked why you think that we will have layoffs and your response is every company is in the same boat??? People that come on here saying specifically that we are in trouble and I wonder why? We are not too big and we are not preparing for a launch. Are size is not contingent on any drugs getting approved. Now if something drastically changes, then yeah, we will be in trouble. But I think I am ok with Takeda. Granted its not what it used to be (selling one drug in one market) but you were never going to make a ton of money here. We have limitations as to how much we can make but the bonus structure hasn't changed in years and its not terrible. So why will there be layoffs?
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See I told you! We,re all going to be A OK. Number 1 Koolaid drinker award goes to....
 




Anonymous said:
Because you once had a drug that represented 4 BILLION dollars to the company.....and now you don't.

Get it now, sparky?
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Which is why we have had 2 layoffs in the past 2 1/2 years big guy. I ask why for 2013 we are in trouble and I get the same generic responses. All of pharma is screwed, I just dont see how we are more so than any other company. Sorry you work for IW
 








Anonymous said:
Which is why we have had 2 layoffs in the past 2 1/2 years big guy. I ask why for 2013 we are in trouble and I get the same generic responses. All of pharma is screwed, I just dont see how we are more so than any other company. Sorry you work for IW
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Takeda has a major stake in a novel SSRI that is before the FDA. Hopefully approved late summer or fall. Goggle Takeda partnerships. Y'all have some major drugs coming soon thru partnership agreements. Don't let the nay Sayers beat you down!
 




Anonymous said:
Which is why we have had 2 layoffs in the past 2 1/2 years big guy. I ask why for 2013 we are in trouble and I get the same generic responses. All of pharma is screwed, I just dont see how we are more so than any other company. Sorry you work for IW
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Edarbi will save us, it will solidify our status as a major player in the hypertension market. Add jnc8 guidelines with chlorthalidone and were money! Drs have been waiting on alo for over 5 years, will be instant blockbuster once launched. Colcrys was a game changer that will add to Uloric sales and the new ACR guidelines. New UC drug and antidepressant will also be blockbusters. Not too shabby, plus launch of Linzess will add sales to Amitiza and dexilant will soon get all the branded ppi business. That's why we aren't having layoffs, buttercup.
 




Oh yeah, there is already 6-8 SSRIs (most generic) already on the market that are tier 1 & many of those work very good & now we come along with one with a slightly new wrinkle in the molecule & if it does get thru the FDA is will be Tier 3 at best on all formularies and very expensive for cash pay patients so how much do you really think will get prescribed & filled. Plus if you believe everything that is posted on Google by people who are trying to drive Takeda stock price as high as possible before they sell then you are living in a fairy tale world. Best advice is to just sit back & wait & if we have layoffs or don't have layoffs then that's what's going to happen regardless.
 




Anonymous said:
Takeda has a major stake in a novel SSRI that is before the FDA. Hopefully approved late summer or fall. Goggle Takeda partnerships. Y'all have some major drugs coming soon thru partnership agreements. Don't let the nay Sayers beat you down!
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Hey Zippy, while you are in Google take a look at the partnership co entered into with Quintiles and Covance. Wait; aren't those contract sales companies?
 








Funny to read when reps who are nervous about long term job security want anyone to come on CP & verify that their job is safe & Takeda will never lay them off while on the other hand some come here & claim to have some type of psychic powers & tell us that our layoff will come on such & such date or month. In reality no matter what the reps seeking job security post about new drugs, past layoffs, etc. there is never going to be a guarantee that Takeda is not going to have layoffs, sooner or later, just depends on strategy that corporate decides for best profit of company and regarding forecasting an exact layoff date from the others, they are only guessing & corporate actually doesn't want us to know an exact layoff timeline until they are ready for us to know the date. Everything else here is just going to be speculation either way.
 




Anonymous said:
Takeda has a major stake in a novel SSRI that is before the FDA. Hopefully approved late summer or fall. Goggle Takeda partnerships. Y'all have some major drugs coming soon thru partnership agreements. Don't let the nay Sayers beat you down!
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What were Takeda's last "novel" drugs? Rozerem? Edarbi? Those "novel" drugs turned out to be nothing more than "short stories"!

Wha???
 




Anonymous said:
What were Takeda's last "novel" drugs? Rozerem? Edarbi? Those "novel" drugs turned out to be nothing more than "short stories"!

Wha???
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Ebarbyclor? Only combo with chlorthalidone, not to mention Edarbi has superiority in ARB class. JNC 8 guidelines will help

Uloric is superior to older option, safe for renal patients too. New ACR guidelines will push sales of this

Dexilant is only DDR technology, only true 24 hr PPI

Amitiza, leader in CIC and heals patients with IBS-C. No electrolyte imbalance.

Get your FACTS straight, you would be lying to yourself if you didnt admit Takeda has some pretty damn good drugs!
 




Poster #75 you are putting out a lot of "pie in the sky" info. Example- Uloric is really not that much better than generic Zyloprim except in a small niche number of patients & at a much higher cost. Other comparisons can be made to the other Takeda products you mentioned, but would take too long. If it makes you sleep better at night keep believing this propaganda you are putting out, but truth is there is no guarantee we all will have jobs this time next year with the way Takeda is going to start using more & more contract reps in the future instead of our own in-house reps. There is no way you (mr/ms. rookie rep or DM) can absolutely guarantee that Takeda will not cut back at all, even though it could happen, but not an absolute sure thing.
 




Dexilant cant beat Nexium, Protonix, Or Zegerid head to head

Generic Nexium Will put Dex 6 feet under

Uloric is neither safer or more effective For Any patients= rip off

Edarbi, rozerem, alo, and Combo Fat pills are a total Joke.

Those Are the facts!

I Got the job at Novo sorry youre still at Takeda
 




Agree with the above poster. Facts are so true & once Takeda corporate sees how little impact the products will have vs. generics &/or comparative products & they realize that sales turn out to be much less than they had hoped for then this is when the "rubber meets the road" & they start to look to where they can cut costs to improve profit picture & staff cuts are the 1st thing that businesses do to enhance the profit-loss picture. It may take a little while for this to happen, but it will & nobody can change it.
 




Anonymous said:
Dexilant cant beat Nexium, Protonix, Or Zegerid head to head

Generic Nexium Will put Dex 6 feet under

Uloric is neither safer or more effective For Any patients= rip off

Edarbi, rozerem, alo, and Combo Fat pills are a total Joke.

Those Are the facts!

I Got the job at Novo sorry youre still at Takeda
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LOL Novo is the new Takeda. You will see. 5 people per pod. what a joke
 




Anonymous said:
Dexilant cant beat Nexium, Protonix, Or Zegerid head to head

Generic Nexium Will put Dex 6 feet under

Uloric is neither safer or more effective For Any patients= rip off

Edarbi, rozerem, alo, and Combo Fat pills are a total Joke.

Those Are the facts!

I Got the job at Novo sorry youre still at Takeda
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The obvious answer is that a talented sales rep could argue one way or another which drug is better. The problem is that most Takeda reps are not talented sales people. They are trained to be sample droppers and caterers. That's true all the way up the chain of command in field sales. Consider your RSDs. They were the ones that started out as Takeda reps when Acos first launched. For many, they were new to pharma and never knew how to sell. They've just hung round long enough to move up, piggy backed on the trained sales expertise of Lilly reps, and backstabbed and lied their way into higher positions. They never had to sell in a competitive class. They had one competitor that had a worse profile and they still couldn't catch them! Now these fools are supposed to guide the new generation of clueless dolts? Ain't going to happen!
 




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