First blood??? Both threads were started by you or some other hateful liberal that spews the same vile that you do. Just because you agree with a few "Republican" ideas does not make you a conservative, or even a moderate. Your ideas of wealth redistribution and "fairness" tell us everything we need to know about you. You hate the system that allows your company to operate and provide you with the job you claim to be so proud to have. You don't even realize your own hypocrisy. The problem is when you don't have a rational argument to stand on you start calling names. That doesn't make you sound intelligent.
I'm intrigued by the animosity towards religion though. Atheism is a religion unto itself and requires just as much faith as belief in a supreme, supernatural being that created the universe.
It's not wealth redistribution, it's helping out a fellow human being in need in this down economy. The real hypocrisy is how the Christians preach compassion but would glady deny a fellow human being healthcare coverage.
I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic. I certainly don't believe in any religion where the word of God comes from man. The ironic thing is that Christians who worship a Bible written by man readily mock the Mormon bible, another book written by man.
Yes i attacked your religion. Heres why.
1. You dumbfucks drew first blood
2. How can i have an intelligent pragmatic discussion with a political group that believes dinosaurs walked with humans?
3. You dimwits keep calling me a liberal yet i don't support unions and i want to secure the border.
4. Your attacks on the unemployed is disgusting. Im gainfully employed by Forest making very good $$.
It's not wealth redistribution, it's helping out a fellow human being in need in this down economy. The real hypocrisy is how the Christians preach compassion but would glady deny a fellow human being healthcare coverage.
I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic. I certainly don't believe in any religion where the word of God comes from man. The ironic thing is that Christians who worship a Bible written by man readily mock the Mormon bible, another book written by man.
I have posted a few verses below because obviously you know very little about the religion you bash. The Bible teaches self-responsibility. The order of responsibility is: to God, the individual, the family, then the church. The government is not a part of the equation. The Bible teaches that a man should take care of his own (and his family). The Bible also teaches that if you don't work, you don't eat. The problem with this country is the entitlement mentality. We have the highest standard of living anywhere on the planet. The "poor" in this country are so much richer than the truly poor anywhere else in the world. When will you realize that the government is nothing but an enabler of bad choices. That goes to both sides of the spectrum. The government through crony capitalism enables the large corporations to take advantage of the system. That is what business is supposed to do - you cannot fault the business. You need to look no further than Solyndra to know it is not just a Republican thing. On the other side, the government gives the unemployed and those on welfare no incentive to better themselves. Many of them can earn more money sitting at home than at a job. Most of these people think the jobs they are qualified for are beneath them. Or they think that just because they have a college degree they should be making $100k/year and shouldn't have to start at the bottom and work their way up.
You really seem to be a confused individual. A self-proclaimed moderate agnostic. That term is just sad. It says that you don't know what you believe so you make it up as you go along. What is right to you is what is right based on your feelings at any given time and that is subject to change. You have no moral absolutes, you believe that humans are of no greater worth than any other "evolved" creature. You have no purpose for even being here. I don't see how someone can wander through life like that. There are so many signs in nature that point to a magnificent Creator (intelligent design proponents, even the non-religious ones, call it irreducible complexity). The truths of the Bible have stood the test of time and held up over and over again. The only way to not see it is to dismiss it a priori (without investigation). Here is the crux - God isn't hidden. If you seek Him you will find Him. Naturalist explanations fail to account for and do no justice to the incredible creation all around us. When you go looking for any explanation but God, you will find those as well, but none will ever be adequate.
I Timothy 5:8, “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
II Thessalonians 3:6-12, “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.”
Psalms 72:2,4, “He shall judge thy people with righteousness, and thy poor with judgment. He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.”
First blood??? Both threads were started by you or some other hateful liberal that spews the same vile that you do. Just because you agree with a few "Republican" ideas does not make you a conservative, or even a moderate. Your ideas of wealth redistribution and "fairness" tell us everything we need to know about you. You hate the system that allows your company to operate and provide you with the job you claim to be so proud to have. You don't even realize your own hypocrisy. The problem is when you don't have a rational argument to stand on you start calling names. That doesn't make you sound intelligent.
I'm intrigued by the animosity towards religion though. Atheism is a religion unto itself and requires just as much faith as belief in a supreme, supernatural being that created the universe.
I have posted a few verses below because obviously you know very little about the religion you bash. The Bible teaches self-responsibility. The order of responsibility is: to God, the individual, the family, then the church. The government is not a part of the equation. The Bible teaches that a man should take care of his own (and his family). The Bible also teaches that if you don't work, you don't eat. The problem with this country is the entitlement mentality. We have the highest standard of living anywhere on the planet. The "poor" in this country are so much richer than the truly poor anywhere else in the world. When will you realize that the government is nothing but an enabler of bad choices. That goes to both sides of the spectrum. The government through crony capitalism enables the large corporations to take advantage of the system. That is what business is supposed to do - you cannot fault the business. You need to look no further than Solyndra to know it is not just a Republican thing. On the other side, the government gives the unemployed and those on welfare no incentive to better themselves. Many of them can earn more money sitting at home than at a job. Most of these people think the jobs they are qualified for are beneath them. Or they think that just because they have a college degree they should be making $100k/year and shouldn't have to start at the bottom and work their way up.
You really seem to be a confused individual. A self-proclaimed moderate agnostic. That term is just sad. It says that you don't know what you believe so you make it up as you go along. What is right to you is what is right based on your feelings at any given time and that is subject to change. You have no moral absolutes, you believe that humans are of no greater worth than any other "evolved" creature. You have no purpose for even being here. I don't see how someone can wander through life like that. There are so many signs in nature that point to a magnificent Creator (intelligent design proponents, even the non-religious ones, call it irreducible complexity). The truths of the Bible have stood the test of time and held up over and over again. The only way to not see it is to dismiss it a priori (without investigation). Here is the crux - God isn't hidden. If you seek Him you will find Him. Naturalist explanations fail to account for and do no justice to the incredible creation all around us. When you go looking for any explanation but God, you will find those as well, but none will ever be adequate.
I Timothy 5:8, “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
II Thessalonians 3:6-12, “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.”
Psalms 72:2,4, “He shall judge thy people with righteousness, and thy poor with judgment. He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.”
Opinions that shift with the wind are worthless. True absolutes are absolute because they do not change. I do not deny my God because I have a hardship in my life. Everyone goes through trials and it is those who learn to weather them and come out better on the other side that will prosper. I have 2 close friends who have been laid of from the industry. One started his own business, the other has been sitting on his butt collecting unemployment. Which one do you think is happier? Your situation is what you make of it. If you were a rep at Pfizer making $100k a year or more and you lost your job and you cannot provide for your family it is your fault. Not the system for not providing a job that pays $100k a year. If you make $100k and spend $100k you are making poor decisions and not living within your means. If your house is being foreclosed on you were living in a house you couldn't afford (the bank should not have given you the loan, but the government said they had to). If you can't make your car payment you couldn't afford the car to begin with. The culture we live in thrives on immediate gratification and having the biggest and best of everything. You want to blame the system instead of those who made poor choices with blessings they were given.
So in response to your assertion, NO - I would not be singing a different tune. I have saved for rainy days. I live in a house I can afford. I don't have a car payment. That is called personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is an absolute, it does not change from generation to generation except in the application. We have raised a generation of those who feel entitled, and until the attitude changes our situation will not change.
I take issue with this comment. As a Christian myself, I was right up with you until you talked about fault and responsibility. Does God place fault on starving children in Africa? Is it their fault for being born into their condition. People who foreclosed on their homes didn't lose their homes because they were lazy and entitled. They foreclosed because they lost their jobs.
Beautifully worded yet misguided post. Just because you're fortunate enough to be employed with Forest doesn't make you better than the poor rep that got laid off from Pfizer. That rep probably works just as hard as you. If you were that rep and found yourself laid off, through no fault of your own, couldn't find work and has no insurance for your family...you would be singing a different tune. All the tax breaks and favors we grant to the big corporations don't create jobs. More money to the government WILL create jobs. So compassionate christian put yourself in someone else's shoes before making such dumb blanket statements. Also, I am happy to be a moderate agnostic. My views and opinions are flexible and does change in times. I am an evidence based individual. You are like an old physician that still practices medicine like its 1950. See? change is good.
I take issue with this comment. As a Christian myself, I was right up with you until you talked about fault and responsibility. Does God place fault on starving children in Africa? Is it their fault for being born into their condition. People who foreclosed on their homes didn't lose their homes because they were lazy and entitled. They foreclosed because they lost their jobs.
It's not wealth redistribution, it's helping out a fellow human being in need in this down economy. The real hypocrisy is how the Christians preach compassion but would glady deny a fellow human being healthcare coverage.
I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic. I certainly don't believe in any religion where the word of God comes from man. The ironic thing is that Christians who worship a Bible written by man readily mock the Mormon bible, another book written by man.
How were the riots , bozo?? were you arrested? got hurt during the riots??Are you proud of damaging private property and inconveniencing 1000's people?
You want more hand outs. maybe you cant afford your house now because you lived beyond your means and then you lash out at society. Nobody forced you to buy a house you could not afford, you made that decision
