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In the upcoming months, I can't wait to read the posts from the reps so excited to have been hired. I know this is Cafe Pharma, but there is a lot of truth in this thread.

Selling a CII product now is murder:
1- Patients will be required to fail 2-3 different generic short acting meds before a branded one will even be considered.
2 - Pharmacy stocking is brutal if at all due to a lot of them only being able to order a certain number due to quotas. The DEA is watching pharmacies in Florida and other states. Being tapentadol instead of oxycodone will help, but stocking will still be difficult. Ordering more than the normal amount of Nucynta will be difficult.
3 - Physicians are doing everything and anything not to write narcotics. Some won't write at all. The environment is changing, it is really odd walking into offices and speaking about scheduled drugs and writing more.

Unless your drug is on a lot of formularies, good luck getting anyone to write it. The name of the game now is co-pays, and if it is high, only the most wealthy of people will consider it.

It just isn't what it used to be. I wish you all luck and success, but I will be watching this board to see what really happens when you all "re-launch" Nucynta.
 






In the upcoming months, I can't wait to read the posts from the reps so excited to have been hired. I know this is Cafe Pharma, but there is a lot of truth in this thread.

Selling a CII product now is murder:
1- Patients will be required to fail 2-3 different generic short acting meds before a branded one will even be considered.
2 - Pharmacy stocking is brutal if at all due to a lot of them only being able to order a certain number due to quotas. The DEA is watching pharmacies in Florida and other states. Being tapentadol instead of oxycodone will help, but stocking will still be difficult. Ordering more than the normal amount of Nucynta will be difficult.
3 - Physicians are doing everything and anything not to write narcotics. Some won't write at all. The environment is changing, it is really odd walking into offices and speaking about scheduled drugs and writing more.

Unless your drug is on a lot of formularies, good luck getting anyone to write it. The name of the game now is co-pays, and if it is high, only the most wealthy of people will consider it.

It just isn't what it used to be. I wish you all luck and success, but I will be watching this board to see what really happens when you all "re-launch" Nucynta.




I have to agree. I tried for this job and didn't get it. Never got an email or phone call informing me of that either. Bad company, bad people, and selling Nucynta is going to be a real struggle for the reasons stated in the above post. All true, and I know what I'm talking about… having been in the pain arena for 10 years.
Good luck folks. I mean that. I'll keep plugging away, looking for the next opportunity but I will pay attention to your progress.
 






I have to agree. I tried for this job and didn't get it. Never got an email or phone call informing me of that either. Bad company, bad people, and selling Nucynta is going to be a real struggle for the reasons stated in the above post. All true, and I know what I'm talking about… having been in the pain arena for 10 years.
Good luck folks. I mean that. I'll keep plugging away, looking for the next opportunity but I will pay attention to your progress.

sorry to hear that you didn't get the position you sought - but your sour grapes make you sound like a sore loser. No one here can control the lack of communication from recruiters, so try to keep your animosity focused in the right direction.

Nucynta in a unique product, and fits well into the overall story of this company. If you have been in the pain marketplace for 10 years, you would know this. Perhaps that attitude leaked out a little bit during the interview process, which is why you weren't picked up????

Regardless, keep looking for a new opportunity, and change your attitude. Otherwise, we'll be hearing from you in a few months on the Purdue board or somewhere else, moaning about another missed opportunity.

If you wait for others to change, time will pass you by - change yourself, and move forward.
 






sorry to hear that you didn't get the position you sought - but your sour grapes make you sound like a sore loser. No one here can control the lack of communication from recruiters, so try to keep your animosity focused in the right direction.

Nucynta in a unique product, and fits well into the overall story of this company. If you have been in the pain marketplace for 10 years, you would know this. Perhaps that attitude leaked out a little bit during the interview process, which is why you weren't picked up????

Regardless, keep looking for a new opportunity, and change your attitude. Otherwise, we'll be hearing from you in a few months on the Purdue board or somewhere else, moaning about another missed opportunity.

If you wait for others to change, time will pass you by - change yourself, and move forward.


change my "attitude". in other words, pretend to see things that aren't there and to ignore things that ARE there. otherwise, i have a 'bad' or 'negative' attitude.
thanks for the politically-correct lecture. must have been sleeping for the last 20 years…(sarcasm intended).
bottom line is, without my personal performance in said interview: they fuc#in said i'd hear in 7-10 days! I fuc#IN flew down there at some personal hardship - hey!… happy to do it!.
was told that i'd hear a yeah or nay in 7 to 10 days. read cafepharma to kind of 'monitor' the chatter. nothing. then, nothing.
my friend, with whom i was competing against, got an email saying she was not selected. hey!, you roll the dice and take your lump sand move on. BUT I NEVER GOT CALL.
 






change my "attitude". in other words, pretend to see things that aren't there and to ignore things that ARE there. otherwise, i have a 'bad' or 'negative' attitude.
thanks for the politically-correct lecture. must have been sleeping for the last 20 years…(sarcasm intended).
bottom line is, without my personal performance in said interview: they fuc#in said i'd hear in 7-10 days! I fuc#IN flew down there at some personal hardship - hey!… happy to do it!.
was told that i'd hear a yeah or nay in 7 to 10 days. read cafepharma to kind of 'monitor' the chatter. nothing. then, nothing.
my friend, with whom i was competing against, got an email saying she was not selected. hey!, you roll the dice and take your lump sand move on. BUT I NEVER GOT CALL.

LOSER. I SOUND LIKE A 'LOSER'. let me tell you something… i HAVE been a loser, and also a winner.
i've loved, i'ved laughed and cried,...
 






change my "attitude". in other words, pretend to see things that aren't there and to ignore things that ARE there. otherwise, i have a 'bad' or 'negative' attitude.
thanks for the politically-correct lecture. must have been sleeping for the last 20 years…(sarcasm intended).
bottom line is, without my personal performance in said interview: they fuc#in said i'd hear in 7-10 days! I fuc#IN flew down there at some personal hardship - hey!… happy to do it!.
was told that i'd hear a yeah or nay in 7 to 10 days. read cafepharma to kind of 'monitor' the chatter. nothing. then, nothing.
my friend, with whom i was competing against, got an email saying she was not selected. hey!, you roll the dice and take your lump sand move on. BUT I NEVER GOT CALL.

Again - no one is arguing with that the process of communication is flawed at best. Even more - just because shit like this happens ALOT in our industry doesn't make it right, ok, passable, etc..

Your sentiment about the process(or lack thereof) in communicating with candidates has nothing to do with where this company is right now in terms of product mix or growth potential for the people hired.
 






Your sentiment about the process(or lack thereof) in communicating with candidates has nothing to do with where this company is right now in terms of product mix or growth potential for the people hired.

It does say volumes about the ability of those managing the firm to keep their commitments and treat people like people and not objects.

Should any aspect of the plan going forward stumble, you may discover just how important is the latter.
 






It does say volumes about the ability of those managing the firm to keep their commitments and treat people like people and not objects.


I'm a big boy, and recognize the obvious that I will live with choices I make(accepting an offer here being one of them).

It takes work to carry resentment - I hope that you are ready to turn the page sooner than later, and don't carry that baggage into your next interview. If you do, it will be your undoing.
 






If you disliked the interview & hiring process, consider yourself lucky. You dodged a bullet. This company is full of snakes, lies, and incompetence (human resources/recruitment, training ...all the way down to DMs). Be glad this door was shut for you. It's miserable here on the inside. Believe me!