Obamacare 2015: Higher costs, higher penalties

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Just got a call from a friend of mine who was forced onto Obamacare last year.

He was able to cobble together coverage for himself, his wife and five children ... he was advised to put three or four of the kids on Medicaid (which he didn't qualify for due to assets held), but was able to get coverage pretty close to what he had for about the same amount of money in 2014.

But for 2015, he's already learned that his coverage for himself, his wife and one child is going up about 65% and has no idea what will happen for the other four kids.

But our dear Emperor Obama the First told us our premiums would go DOWN. How can we doubt his esteemed wisdom?
 






Our deductible went from $5,000 to $7,500, our max out of pocket went to $15,000 and our premium went up 17% and that was the most affordable plan we could get. Our doctor and hospital is still in the network for 2015, but they both said likely they would drop out in 2016 because they can't afford the uncollected bills and the low reimbursement. So much for keeping them.

Where in the hell is that $2,500 we were supposed to save?

America has been Grubered!
 



That sounds bad

Have you sat down with someone to make sure you are not over paying? A brokers help is free and you can find them on the healthcare.gov site. I posted the ones my wife used in oregon.

oregon and washington
800-560-7114

other states
855-698-2479
 



Under the Unaffordable Care Act did anyone with a job and makes even an average income really expect for ObamaCare to provide you with better healthcare at a lesser cost? The government added over 30 million indigents to the healthcare rolls. Who do you think has to pay for it? Any of you who really thought ObamaCare was going to be affordable must have been very naive. As a nation we are now spending about 20% of our GDP on healthcare. Much more than the other 1st world nations. ObamaCare didn't fix that. It only made it worse. Face it....both the Democrats and the Republicans fooled you. Gruber let the cat out of the bag. And the Republicans just approved the Cromnibus Bill that fully funded ObamaCare. So please, if you think the Republicans are going to save you, you need to grow up. Merry Christmas!
 



It's getting harder and harder to find anybody who will admit to voting for Obama in both 2008 and 2012. Whenever I find myself in a political discussion and the question is asked it's amazing how many people clam up. They know they screwed up and refuse to own it. That's a big problem in America. False pride. And I think it's a primary reason we are losing our status as a trusted global leader.
 



Anonymous said:
It's getting harder and harder to find anybody who will admit to voting for Obama in both 2008 and 2012. Whenever I find myself in a political discussion and the question is asked it's amazing how many people clam up. They know they screwed up and refuse to own it. That's a big problem in America. False pride. And I think it's a primary reason we are losing our status as a trusted global leader.
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trusted global leader - lost that when baby Bush went into Iraq resulting in the global carnage of today with the emergence of the extremists. Any fool know that previous regimes (as unappealing as they were) had that under control.

Not so much false pride, more ignorance dear boy.

Next stop Clinton given that you guys will likely put up another Bush. That'll make your political discussions interesting
 



Anonymous said:
trusted global leader - lost that when baby Bush went into Iraq resulting in the global carnage of today with the emergence of the extremists. Any fool know that previous regimes (as unappealing as they were) had that under control.

Not so much false pride, more ignorance dear boy.

Next stop Clinton given that you guys will likely put up another Bush. That'll make your political discussions interesting
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You lib-tards have one play in your playbook.
So you think extremists were non-existent before Bush and Congress went to war in Iraq?
Perhaps you are not familiar with the events of 9/11?
 



Anonymous said:
You lib-tards have one play in your playbook.
So you think extremists were non-existent before Bush and Congress went to war in Iraq?
Perhaps you are not familiar with the events of 9/11?
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Two points and a question:

1. They existed but where under some control cf Iraq
2.9/11 was an atrocity carried out by Saudi nationals and we seem quite keen to do business with them
3. What is a lib-tard? it appears to be some made up toss, a feature quite common with your type
 



Anonymous said:
Two points and a question:

1. They existed but where under some control cf Iraq
2.9/11 was an atrocity carried out by Saudi nationals and we seem quite keen to do business with them
3. What is a lib-tard? it appears to be some made up toss, a feature quite common with your type
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Like a common lib-tard, you change your argument. You implied that the war in Iraq caused the "emergence of extremists", then I correctly pointed you to one obvious example of how you were wrong (many other examples too) and like a severe Tourette's patient, you start blurting out "Bush, Iraq". Now you want to talk about Saudi Arabia. What an absolute drone!
If you don't know what a lib-tard is, it's most likely because you are one.
 



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Like a common lib-tard, you change your argument. You implied that the war in Iraq caused the "emergence of extremists", then I correctly pointed you to one obvious example of how you were wrong (many other examples too) and like a severe Tourette's patient, you start blurting out "Bush, Iraq". Now you want to talk about Saudi Arabia. What an absolute drone!
If you don't know what a lib-tard is, it's most likely because you are one.
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That's what we like - sharp, clear thinking. Impressive. Oh well, you can take the man out of the trailer park but not the trailer park out of the man
 






I laugh at you Dems and Pubs who spend your time fighting with one another. You don't have the brains to figure out that your political parties are flip sides of the same coin and use you like little concubines. Obama behaves like a Republican by starting wars and greasing palms on Wall Street. John Boner behaves like a Dem by raising debt ceilings and pumping amnesty. And you're too stupid to notice. Hence, the nation is getting flushed.
 



Anonymous said:
I laugh at you Dems and Pubs who spend your time fighting with one another. You don't have the brains to figure out that your political parties are flip sides of the same coin and use you like little concubines. Obama behaves like a Republican by starting wars and greasing palms on Wall Street. John Boner behaves like a Dem by raising debt ceilings and pumping amnesty. And you're too stupid to notice. Hence, the nation is getting flushed.
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You stand for what exactly?
So you must support a true reform party, like The Tea Party... Right?
 



Anonymous said:
You stand for what exactly?
So you must support a true reform party, like The Tea Party... Right?
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Tea Party? HA! The Tea Party was a willful creation of the Republican establishment. This was done as a result of all the criticism fomented against the neo-cons after Bush dismantled the economy. They fooled you into believing that you had another choice when it was just another arm of the GOP. Most of the Tea Party electeds are taking campaign bribes from the Too Big To Fail banks!!! And they've done NOTHING to stop all the corruption and cronyism that we see going on over on Capital Hill. The Dems and the Pubs work hard to make it impossible for a third party to gain any traction and threaten their political monopoly in government. Count the number of third party electeds in the 535 on Capital Hill if you question me. We don't have an adversial political system. It is a ONE PARTY SYSTEM called the Demublicans. Once again - look what Obama has done and how John Boner (the GOP House leader) has bent over backwards to help him. And even though the Pubs have a majority in both the House and the Senate - watch their limp wristed futile fight to stop ObamaCare or Amnesty. It's a ONE PARTY system, man. Grow up and accept reality!
 



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Tea Party? HA! The Tea Party was a willful creation of the Republican establishment. This was done as a result of all the criticism fomented against the neo-cons after Bush dismantled the economy. They fooled you into believing that you had another choice when it was just another arm of the GOP. Most of the Tea Party electeds are taking campaign bribes from the Too Big To Fail banks!!! And they've done NOTHING to stop all the corruption and cronyism that we see going on over on Capital Hill. The Dems and the Pubs work hard to make it impossible for a third party to gain any traction and threaten their political monopoly in government. Count the number of third party electeds in the 535 on Capital Hill if you question me. We don't have an adversial political system. It is a ONE PARTY SYSTEM called the Demublicans. Once again - look what Obama has done and how John Boner (the GOP House leader) has bent over backwards to help him. And even though the Pubs have a majority in both the House and the Senate - watch their limp wristed futile fight to stop ObamaCare or Amnesty. It's a ONE PARTY system, man. Grow up and accept reality!
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So you oppose Obamacare and amnesty... is that correct?
 






Anonymous said:
So you oppose Obamacare and amnesty... is that correct?
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Of course. But what have the Pubs or Tea Partiers done to stop any of it? Zilch! The pubs in the House of Reps could have rejected the Cromnibus Bill that fully funded ObamaCare and Obama's amnesty exec order. Yet 167 out of 233 majority Pubs voted to approve the Cromnibus Bill which easily kicked it across the finish line. But you idiots continue to think that YOUR party is better than THEIRS!!! ha. You're nothing but a ship of fools who love to get shaken down. As a matter of fact, the banksters coerced the Pubs to stick another provision in the Cromnibus Bill that you may not know about. There are literally hundreds of trillions of dollars of derivatives (finanancial instruments) floating around on Wall Street supported with fake money. In the event that those derivatives blow the taxpayers are on the hook to bail out the dirty banks, according to the Cromnibus language. And YOUR Pubs gave their approval!!! ha. But keep fighting with one another, you stupid Dems and Pubs while the crooks laugh all the way to the bank!!! ha!!
 



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There are still some, who stand for Liberty. I agree, not enough. However, you won't find any of them on the Dems side of the aisle. They have gone full-on socialist/communist.

http://scorecard.organizeliberty.org
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The GOP'ers have joined them. The GOP Speaker of the House John Boner is walking in lockstep beside Obama. So is Mitch McConnell in the Senate. Both traitors appointed by the other GOP members of Congress. Boner just got appointed for the 3rd time! So the GOP has appointed 2 socialists as their leaders!!! Both have done nothing to overturn ObamaCare or Obama's amnesty exec order. On the contrary, they have fueled GOP support for both!!! Any objective observer can see what idiots the GOP constituents are! At least the Dem pols don't try to fool us. They tell us who they are, what they stand for and what they intend to do. The GOP'ers are wolves in sheep clothing. They say one thing and do the opposite. Only idiots would trust such a political party.
 



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