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agreed,

TM and Perv J as you call them are such giant tools...not a "genuine" bone in their body. Such a fake frat boy culture, I'm embarrassed to say I got sucked in at first

nothing would make me happier than to watch this place burn to the ground...assuming I'm able to latch on somewhere else first
 






it is hysterical to see who got ‘promoted’ to regional trainers and retained, its all the women they are having affairs w! And yes TM’s girl C had to change her LinkedIn name to avoid being outed! As if the entire sales force doesn’t know! Stevie Wonder sees through this shit show.
 






Listen, look at the Texas Team. It’s sad anyone believes ‘moves’ or turn over is he case. Neos moved people w no experience and no ability to make TM Happy! Ha ha ha look at how messed up Texas is.
 
























Least amount of pride or satisfaction I have ever had in a sales job. The ‘best’ reps got lucky with 1-5 people who carry their quota time after time, rest of the reps in the middle are considered good for being average and the bottom, depending on who you ‘likes’ you will be ok because products suck. It’s just sad. Do not work here unless you are so unemployable you need work release
 






Let’s be honest with ourselves. Taking away speaker scripts, the ones who are doing the best are the ones that have the best relationships with their docs and good regional insurance coverage. The ADHD market as a whole is a relationship market. All ADHD drugs work and don’t work at the same time and the products we sell require relationship selling not the type of selling you learn from a book or asking “probing” questions. Wish all these ADHD companies would be honest with themselves and realize that they are in a “Me too” market and quit acting like their drug is any different from the 30 other options. Swallow, Chew, Melt, Drink, Stick up Butt.... it’s all the same. If you find yourself on the bottom, I suggest you unstrap your bra or loosen your tie and focus on getting to know your provider’s family, hobbies, aspirations before you decide to walk in like a stiff car salesman/woman sticking a piece of laminated paper in their face. You may surprise yourself on how effective it is. Biggest mistake I see from dejected ADHD reps are them not truly understanding the market game they are playing in.

Oncology/ Cardiology market = clinical based selling
Pain Management/ Rheumatology market = Solution/ Evidence based selling
Diabetes/ ADHD market = Relationship based selling

Keys to Success in ADHD market
1. Insurance Coverage/ Patient Cost
2. Doc to Rep Relationship

Hope this info can help someone out


anonymous said:
Least amount of pride or satisfaction I have ever had in a sales job. The ‘best’ reps got lucky with 1-5 people who carry their quota time after time, rest of the reps in the middle are considered good for being average and the bottom, depending on who you ‘likes’ you will be ok because products suck. It’s just sad. Do not work here unless you are so unemployable you need work release
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the only thing I would add to the above comment is access. If you cannot gain access and not given time to ‘get in’ with the office, this will be an issue. Second to coverage I think this is and has been the factor determining success. You can only get relationships if you can get to the MD. Period.
 






True, I'll give you that. I overlooked that one and it's a big one. I'd put that as number 1 over the other two. You can spend all day dropping off material at the front desk but without access your are screwed.

anonymous said:
the only thing I would add to the above comment is access. If you cannot gain access and not given time to ‘get in’ with the office, this will be an issue. Second to coverage I think this is and has been the factor determining success. You can only get relationships if you can get to the MD. Period.
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My bonus was 1/10 of what I had at Shire. I am so done with this pipe bomb of a company. I knew TM was full of shiz and I am kicking myself I left a reputable place to work here. I have never ever seen more nonsense in my life. Those who are tolerating this place were ‘relocated’ and brain washed. Rest were new to pharma and don’t know how dam bad it is. Eff this place
 






anonymous said:
Let’s be honest with ourselves. Taking away speaker scripts, the ones who are doing the best are the ones that have the best relationships with their docs and good regional insurance coverage. The ADHD market as a whole is a relationship market. All ADHD drugs work and don’t work at the same time and the products we sell require relationship selling not the type of selling you learn from a book or asking “probing” questions. Wish all these ADHD companies would be honest with themselves and realize that they are in a “Me too” market and quit acting like their drug is any different from the 30 other options. Swallow, Chew, Melt, Drink, Stick up Butt.... it’s all the same. If you find yourself on the bottom, I suggest you unstrap your bra or loosen your tie and focus on getting to know your provider’s family, hobbies, aspirations before you decide to walk in like a stiff car salesman/woman sticking a piece of laminated paper in their face. You may surprise yourself on how effective it is. Biggest mistake I see from dejected ADHD reps are them not truly understanding the market game they are playing in.

Oncology/ Cardiology market = clinical based selling
Pain Management/ Rheumatology market = Solution/ Evidence based selling
Diabetes/ ADHD market = Relationship based selling

Keys to Success in ADHD market
1. Insurance Coverage/ Patient Cost
2. Doc to Rep Relationship

Hope this info can help someone out
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It's not rocket science Neos is now hiring reps with no experience in Specialty or no experience in Pharma to sell without samples in a market against reps that have other products to gain access also most reps who call on Psychiatry have covered the territory. Neos puts the pressure on the new reps who after they get a few months under their belt in these low performing territories leave for the larger company. The new manager who has only been a manager at Neos with no prior knowledge of the manage care issues in the state or town ( neither does the new rep ) . They also do not see how hard the voucher redemption is in certain towns compared to larger cities. Let's look at the turnover rate in certain states, drill down to territory. Maybe we need to reconsider and take a new approach. I also would suggest to HR the ratio for female managers could increase if male managers were brought in with no DM prior we'll take a look were any females brought in without prior?
 






anonymous said:
It's not rocket science Neos is now hiring reps with no experience in Specialty or no experience in Pharma to sell without samples in a market against reps that have other products to gain access also most reps who call on Psychiatry have covered the territory. Neos puts the pressure on the new reps who after they get a few months under their belt in these low performing territories leave for the larger company. The new manager who has only been a manager at Neos with no prior knowledge of the manage care issues in the state or town ( neither does the new rep ) . They also do not see how hard the voucher redemption is in certain towns compared to larger cities. Let's look at the turnover rate in certain states, drill down to territory. Maybe we need to reconsider and take a new approach. I also would suggest to HR the ratio for female managers could increase if male managers were brought in with no DM prior we'll take a look were any females brought in without prior?
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You losers had almost 2 quarters with your main competitor in the shitter and couldn’t grow it fast enough launching Comtempla. Whine whine whine...roll me over into the company bs
 






anonymous said:
You losers had almost 2 quarters with your main competitor in the shitter and couldn’t grow it fast enough launching Comtempla. Whine whine whine...roll me over into the company bs
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Company is a joke culture is basically the #MeToo movement with cheesy wannabe managers and horrendous upper management! We call it CONTEMPTla in my region. Worst business move I’ve made. Ever.
 






im done working for the week because why not and read this thread. I am LOL my head off and here are my favorite points:
1. TM and his concubine CN outed (duh)
2. ‘Promoted’ and ‘relocated’ reps earned it and weren’t a product of sex or favoritism
3. Corporate reads CP
4. Reps hired w nonexperience as they have no idea how dumb the job is and that it is not a real company.
5. Leadership has created a hostile blatant sex based promotion environment.
6. And I just like Dumpster Fire and #MeToo movement comments.
 






anonymous said:
im done working for the week because why not and read this thread. I am LOL my head off and here are my favorite points:
1. TM and his concubine CN outed (duh)
2. ‘Promoted’ and ‘relocated’ reps earned it and weren’t a product of sex or favoritism
3. Corporate reads CP
4. Reps hired w nonexperience as they have no idea how dumb the job is and that it is not a real company.
5. Leadership has created a hostile blatant sex based promotion environment.
6. And I just like Dumpster Fire and #MeToo movement comments.
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You missed one fact. If you want to be a manager in the East you need to have worked for Salix. There is an open manager spot in Florida, lets see if they came from Salix.


QUOTE="anonymous, post: 6037655"]It's not rocket science Neos is now hiring reps with no experience in Specialty or no experience in Pharma to sell without samples in a market against reps that have other products to gain access also most reps who call on Psychiatry have covered the territory. Neos puts the pressure on the new reps who after they get a few months under their belt in these low performing territories leave for the larger company. The new manager who has only been a manager at Neos with no prior knowledge of the manage care issues in the state or town ( neither does the new rep ) . They also do not see how hard the voucher redemption is in certain towns compared to larger cities. Let's look at the turnover rate in certain states, drill down to territory. Maybe we need to reconsider and take a new approach. I also would suggest to HR the ratio for female managers could increase if male managers were brought in with no DM prior we'll take a look were any females brought in without prior?[/QUOTE]
 






The bigger issue is ANYONE who leaves a reputable pharma or biotech company to come here needs their cranium checked. ALL the managers who are here and remain in some way ‘had’ to take this job. At one time maybe their was a glimpse of hope but NEVER would it have made sense to leave and come aboard. Those that stay have to those they hire are the equivalent of your average DMV employee. Wait that’s mean DMV is way better
 












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