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It's crazy but getting laid off was the best thing to happen to me in a long time. Went with a smaller company, better pay, people are nice, decent products, customers treat me better which is weird. The down side, company car, less resources(no OCC, TLL, Genie, etc., that you have to use). I miss some people but not the back stabbing and DM's protecting their rears.
 












anonymous said:
It's crazy but getting laid off was the best thing to happen to me in a long time. Went with a smaller company, better pay, people are nice, decent products, customers treat me better which is weird. The down side, company car, less resources(no OCC, TLL, Genie, etc., that you have to use). I miss some people but not the back stabbing and DM's protecting their rears.
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I agree. The mgmt at Genentech is horrible. There are some good people and products there but, it is brighter on the other side. Genentech is one of the most negative places I have worked. But, Stay for the package. I have learned so much after leaving about my manager talking bad about people at their managers meeting, it's sad. No trust or ethics
 






Industry including management/marketing, and reps realize this business has dramatically changed are you are highly overpaid for the value/services you provide.

For most it was a good lucrative ride.

Good luck with your next pharma gig or new career.
 












anonymous said:
Industry including management/marketing, and reps realize this business has dramatically changed are you are highly overpaid for the value/services you provide.

For most it was a good lucrative ride.

Good luck with your next pharma gig or new career.
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The main issue is the mistrust that has been created. I always was proud to say I worked here but now, the reputation is gone. Managers vs reps, I thought we should always be on the same team but that is not the way it is. Everyone is protecting themselves.
 






Everyone I know that was laid-off is rehired and most for more money!

Some say that the paperwork and compliance is intense... it’s real “big Pharma”!

Guess I still feel lucky to be here, just tired of the petty BS with all the other reps and lies from leadership. It’s not the DNA of old, but, it could be worse.
 






anonymous said:
I agree. The mgmt at Genentech is horrible. There are some good people and products there but, it is brighter on the other side. Genentech is one of the most negative places I have worked. But, Stay for the package. I have learned so much after leaving about my manager talking bad about people at their managers meeting, it's sad. No trust or ethics
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What about the jerks who thru their DSM and RSD under the bus!
 
















































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