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Commercial - easy Google search, wish it wasn't true too; likely won't know 2017 Med part D for a few months via Internet update (can't rely on AD)

You are officially an idiot. Latuda isn't listed on the Value formulary which is 500k lives. Still covered on the national which is 20M lives.

Get a life you Sunovion fired troll.

Google search that!
 






You are officially an idiot. Latuda isn't listed on the Value formulary which is 500k lives. Still covered on the national which is 20M lives.

Get a life you Sunovion fired troll.

Google search that!
Ever hear of advanced control formulary? Let me help - this is where all the lives are going. Sorry to break the news here without careful spin and damage control narrative
 






Everyone knows the North Dakota "win" was a joke but the loss at Navitus you write about is more telling. We screwed up big time. Don't know if it was the rookie AD or our contracting department but someone has to step up and own the miserable failure. That conference call was real sad. Wish we had someone more experienced up here.
Did anything change with our status in ND?
 












Who cares! This just gives us a reason to point to if we don't hit our goals. Has anyone in Wisconsin been doing anything more than dropping off samples and getting signatures since we were put on WI Medicaid as the only preferred APS? I didin't think so. So let's count our blessings and remember that we lose our patent in early 2018. That means we are at risk of downsizing at the start of 2017. We saw what happened to Lunesta team a full year before its patent went off. Lets also remember what happened to Summit team a full year before their product patent expired. So everyone just relax. We make some of the biggest base salaries in the industry and the ride is slowly coming to an end. Why all the hate? Just relax and enjoy the end of the ride. I already have my resume in at Lundbeck. It's good to have a plan B. :)
True Dat me friend. True Dat. I'm getting out of here as soon as I can. Navitus or not.
 






At a recent conference, I spoke to someone from Mike DiFiore's last company. He told me it was well known that Mike was a distrusting micro-manager who loved to talk about his family and could care less about yours. Sound familiar? Perfect description of him today. Mike told us he was let go from a down sizing when in fact he was fired. Let's all hope that Matt does to Mike what he did to Carl, Sue, Pat and all the other people from managed markets he targeted.
 






You are officially an idiot. Latuda isn't listed on the Value formulary which is 500k lives. Still covered on the national which is 20M lives.

Get a life you Sunovion fired troll.

Google search that!
Mister above poster, you are about to get schooled and realize YOU are the idiot. The value formulary is comprised of close to 90% of dual eligible lives. Those are the lives that utilize products for serious mental illness like schizophrenia and bi-polar. The national formulary has less than 1% dual eligible lives so those lives would have little need to use Latuda.

If I remember correctly from back in our launch, the Value formulary had over 85% of the antipsychotic utilization going through it and the national formulary had about 15%.

So.... Who's the idiot now? Idiot.
 


















The sky if falling, the sky is falling!!

So what's happened now that everyone was crying about Latuda at Navitus and Dean. Not a single GD thing!! Everyone is making their numbers and some doing even better.

Cry baby reps complaining all the time. Next time why don't ya all do your jobs and get some used at Navitus accounts like Dean. Now that the change has happened and it didn't even dent the latuda trend line you have been revealed as a cry baby chicken littles.

Why don't ya all go out and actually work to sell some Latuda today? That would be a nice change for all of us.
 






The sky if falling, the sky is falling!!

So what's happened now that everyone was crying about Latuda at Navitus and Dean. Not a single GD thing!! Everyone is making their numbers and some doing even better.

Cry baby reps complaining all the time. Next time why don't ya all do your jobs and get some used at Navitus accounts like Dean. Now that the change has happened and it didn't even dent the latuda trend line you have been revealed as a cry baby chicken littles.

Why don't ya all go out and actually work to sell some Latuda today? That would be a nice change for all of us.
I don't know if I agree with your assessment. There has been a kind of big change in the trend line and not just at Dean but quite a few other Navitus customers. Do your homework before posting such inaccurate information. You can't fool us. We are living with this screw up and it is affecting our numbers whether you believe it or not. Look at the data, fool.
 






You could all stop wasting your time if you'd realize that we in managed markets are not rewarded for getting a contract, increasing market share and the like. We have become a division of pure activity. As long as I get my number of calls and fill out the trackers well I'm doing fine. So stop expecting us to actually care about sales. OK?
 






With a few exceptions, this is among the worst account team in the industry - most be spoon fed and monitored from Marlborough to not waste budget and rebate $ for own pursuits
 
























I think all of us in managed markets need more trackers. More call trackers where we should have to list what resources and detail aids we used. We should also have to spend more days in the field with reps. We should track that too. We should also have a tracker for formulary changes for all of our targeted accounts. Let's also track how many times we use our pharm D's. We need more trackers!!!
 






I think all of us in managed markets need more trackers. More call trackers where we should have to list what resources and detail aids we used. We should also have to spend more days in the field with reps. We should track that too. We should also have a tracker for formulary changes for all of our targeted accounts. Let's also track how many times we use our pharm D's. We need more trackers!!!
No we need you lazy ADs to actually do some work!!