Mike Small - HCV NSD

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Anonymous said:
Mike, you have been a great leader for all of us!!! Yes, there are one or two bozos that like to bash on this board but I wish you nothing but the best. You are a great leader and a great person. There is no one that I feel could have done a better job than you in this role, and YES, your results speak louder than any crap that you might hear on this board.
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Hey JM........easy, or someone might accuse you of ass kissing.
 












Anonymous said:
I don't care what negative people say on this today. It is always 1 or 2 bitter people trying to speak for the rest of us. I have been in this franchise a long time, and I'm sad today that we lost the most authentic, best leader we have had. He dealt with a lot of crap, and always handled it well and stood right in front of it, even when it wasn't his fault. I can only go by VN who is with him every day, who says he fights for the field, is smart, and a great person. Go negative if you want, but MS was great and I will miss him.
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VN? Oh yeah that is such a good source. She's as dumb as they come. What's up with our numbers?
 


















Anonymous said:
You are kidding right? He is solely responsible for the data disasters the past few years. He hired Fran, who was in way over her head. He completely disregarded the recommendations of the compensation task force. He has his favorites, bad mouths people he does not like and from what I have heard he acts like an idiot around the home office. He also let people make huge payouts with really low market share while people over 80% made very little. I like him as a person I just don't respect him as a leader in his position.
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How is he doing?
 






Anonymous said:
How is he doing?
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Just great! Got a huge demotion, and I mean huge; and manages a group of 8 reimbursement managers. Of course he was in waaaaaayyyyy over his head as NSD for HCV. I mean when a person goes from DM experience straight to NSD what did you expect? The bottomline is that he was given the NSD job for one reason only. He was hired as a regional (pre launch) for a different drug, and the drug never launched. The company tried to find spot for everyone, and it down between Mike and a much more qualified person named Kendall Qualls. Mike was handed the job simply because he did not have to move, and Kendall did. Kendall ultimately became an RSD in the company, while Mike went down in infamy as the embarrassing doofus NSD for HCV.
 






Sounds like Gabriella in Managed Care. Hired as NSD for Rituxan and was at least 3 levels above her ability. In fact, she has never been a position at Genentech that she was qualified for. I guess she does something right?
 






Anonymous said:
Just great! Got a huge demotion, and I mean huge; and manages a group of 8 reimbursement managers. Of course he was in waaaaaayyyyy over his head as NSD for HCV. I mean when a person goes from DM experience straight to NSD what did you expect? The bottomline is that he was given the NSD job for one reason only. He was hired as a regional (pre launch) for a different drug, and the drug never launched. The company tried to find spot for everyone, and it down between Mike and a much more qualified person named Kendall Qualls. Mike was handed the job simply because he did not have to move, and Kendall did. Kendall ultimately became an RSD in the company, while Mike went down in infamy as the embarrassing doofus NSD for HCV.
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Not even close to what really happened, but you think you know everything. He beat out Ed Finney and George Escrow too in the interview. Embarrassing doofus? You are a hater. We put Peg Intron away under his leadership, and you are obviously not still around because everyone I talk to misses the way he led this team. He must have fired you in the down sizing and you are still bitter. I thought he was great.
 












Anonymous said:
Just great! Got a huge demotion, and I mean huge; and manages a group of 8 reimbursement managers. Of course he was in waaaaaayyyyy over his head as NSD for HCV. I mean when a person goes from DM experience straight to NSD what did you expect? The bottomline is that he was given the NSD job for one reason only. He was hired as a regional (pre launch) for a different drug, and the drug never launched. The company tried to find spot for everyone, and it down between Mike and a much more qualified person named Kendall Qualls. Mike was handed the job simply because he did not have to move, and Kendall did. Kendall ultimately became an RSD in the company, while Mike went down in infamy as the embarrassing doofus NSD for HCV.
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This is a joke! I worked for Kendall, and he relocated to Michigan for the RSD job he got and was willing to relocate for the NSD job. He tried to get a marketing director job and was turned down. You mean to tell me an African American who was willing to move and still lost to MS? MS deserved the job and from all accounts, did a very good job. I agree with the previous post that you must be a hater!
 






Anonymous said:
This is a joke! I worked for Kendall, and he relocated to Michigan for the RSD job he got and was willing to relocate for the NSD job. He tried to get a marketing director job and was turned down. You mean to tell me an African American who was willing to move and still lost to MS? MS deserved the job and from all accounts, did a very good job. I agree with the previous post that you must be a hater!
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Im black, and am curious as to why you injected race into this? I certainly know that it had nothing to do with the decision. I know for a fact, through DIRECT discussions with the HR manager for HCV, at that time. That the decision came down to to candidates, who were being displaced. Those candidates were Kendall, and Mike Small. Again, first hand knowledge DIRECTLY from the HR generalist is that the decision came down to relocation; the company did not have to relocate Mike, and so he was given the job, its that simple! This is not about a comparison between Mike and Kendall, so don't try to turn it into that. If you know anything about these two, you know that this comparison (on paper) would be completely unfair to Mike.

Mike was a very nice guy, one that you would love to have a beer with; but he was in completely over his head. He simply did not have the cerebral horsepower, the experience, or the education for the job. Lets think about this, he had less than one year with an RSD Title at Amgen (dont know if he actually performed the function), then came to Roche as an RSD (in title only) for mircera; this drug never launched so again, NO actual experience just the title. Then lightning strikes three, as he was on the choppoing block due to mircera failure:
- The company wanted to save as many Mircera people as possible;
- The HCV NSD quite, in the same time frame;
- The company preferred not to relocate, if possible.

With all of this, Mike went from a glorified DSM, who held the title of RSD for a few years, but NEVER actually did the job, to an NSD. I am not a rep, and have worked very closely with Mike. He simply was not very bright; ask Teresa Martinez, I think she would differ from your opinion; in fact I know she does. If mike was so great, why the huge demotion from leading a group of close to 200 people, to managing 8 reimbursement managers. This does not happen to those who are perceived as doing a good job. Come on, think! Separate your personal feelings, from your business intuition.

- Mike competed for the
 






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Im black, and am curious as to why you injected race into this? I certainly know that it had nothing to do with the decision. I know for a fact, through DIRECT discussions with the HR manager for HCV, at that time. That the decision came down to to candidates, who were being displaced. Those candidates were Kendall, and Mike Small. Again, first hand knowledge DIRECTLY from the HR generalist is that the decision came down to relocation; the company did not have to relocate Mike, and so he was given the job, its that simple! This is not about a comparison between Mike and Kendall, so don't try to turn it into that. If you know anything about these two, you know that this comparison (on paper) would be completely unfair to Mike.

Mike was a very nice guy, one that you would love to have a beer with; but he was in completely over his head. He simply did not have the cerebral horsepower, the experience, or the education for the job. Lets think about this, he had less than one year with an RSD Title at Amgen (dont know if he actually performed the function), then came to Roche as an RSD (in title only) for mircera; this drug never launched so again, NO actual experience just the title. Then lightning strikes three, as he was on the choppoing block due to mircera failure:
- The company wanted to save as many Mircera people as possible;
- The HCV NSD quite, in the same time frame;
- The company preferred not to relocate, if possible.

With all of this, Mike went from a glorified DSM, who held the title of RSD for a few years, but NEVER actually did the job, to an NSD. I am not a rep, and have worked very closely with Mike. He simply was not very bright; ask Teresa Martinez, I think she would differ from your opinion; in fact I know she does. If mike was so great, why the huge demotion from leading a group of close to 200 people, to managing 8 reimbursement managers. This does not happen to those who are perceived as doing a good job. Come on, think! Separate your personal feelings, from your business intuition.

- Mike competed for the
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Okay, I know Mike is a friend of mine, so I'm protecting him a bit, but you have many facts wrong.

1. He interviewed against ALL the displaced Mircera RD's. Kendall did take a relo package to Michigan and if he were so good, he would have relo'd to NJ.

2. Black people get preferrential treatment if the interview is close to make quotas-that's a fact. Not racist.

3. He was an RSD at Genzyme and a start up company, not Amgen. You are mixing him up with one of the other Mircera folks.

4. Theresa Martinez is one of his best friends and she didn't want him to leave.

5. He wasn't demoted. He took a relo package to SF and took a relo package to NJ. He took a lower level job to go home. He lives in a palace on Genentech. Sounds pretty smart to me.

6. I'm not going to debate his intelligence. He did some great things for that franchise and was very strategic-contests, market share growth-despite being stuck with idiots like Earl, Walt and Fran.
 












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Okay, I know Mike is a friend of mine, so I'm protecting him a bit, but you have many facts wrong.

1. He interviewed against ALL the displaced Mircera RD's. Kendall did take a relo package to Michigan and if he were so good, he would have relo'd to NJ.

2. Black people get preferrential treatment if the interview is close to make quotas-that's a fact. Not racist.

3. He was an RSD at Genzyme and a start up company, not Amgen. You are mixing him up with one of the other Mircera folks.

4. Theresa Martinez is one of his best friends and she didn't want him to leave.

5. He wasn't demoted. He took a relo package to SF and took a relo package to NJ. He took a lower level job to go home. He lives in a palace on Genentech. Sounds pretty smart to me.

6. I'm not going to debate his intelligence. He did some great things for that franchise and was very strategic-contests, market share growth-despite being stuck with idiots like Earl, Walt and Fran.
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Let it go! Some people love him, some people obviously don't. Happens all the time. We are here in Florida waiting for them to tell us that we have no future. That should be the focus. What's TF gonna do?
 






Stop this nonsense already. The results under his leadership are well documented. MS did things the right way, cared from his people..both in the Field and business partners in Nutley and SSF...Merck's ass has been kicked inside/out. All the front runners now basking in the glory are only benefiting from past planning and the decision making of folks a couple years ago - acknowledge
 






Anonymous said:
Okay, I know Mike is a friend of mine, so I'm protecting him a bit, but you have many facts wrong.

1. He interviewed against ALL the displaced Mircera RD's. Kendall did take a relo package to Michigan and if he were so good, he would have relo'd to NJ.

2. Black people get preferrential treatment if the interview is close to make quotas-that's a fact. Not racist.

3. He was an RSD at Genzyme and a start up company, not Amgen. You are mixing him up with one of the other Mircera folks.

4. Theresa Martinez is one of his best friends and she didn't want him to leave.

5. He wasn't demoted. He took a relo package to SF and took a relo package to NJ. He took a lower level job to go home. He lives in a palace on Genentech. Sounds pretty smart to me.

6. I'm not going to debate his intelligence. He did some great things for that franchise and was very strategic-contests, market share growth-despite being stuck with idiots like Earl, Walt and Fran.
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Ohhhh!, so everyone around him were idiots, but HE was a genius! Yup, you are a buddy. Again, I have no idea of why you are injecting race into this discussion; it is not relevant. To say that black people get preferential treatment defies logic, just look around you. How many black people do you see? PS: All the "great ideas" he had; where do you think that they came from? Leave race out of the issue, if you know the professional Kendall AND you know the professional background of Mike, you know that it is completely unfair to Mike to compare, its not even close. No one is arguing that Kendall should have gotten the job, I know for a fact why he didn't.

I have first hand knowledge of what an absolute idiot he was. Like I said, the actual HR Director for HCV literally told me that "Mike got the job because he did not have to relocate, and the other finalist did." That's a direct quote.

Here's another actual anecdote. Two people were interviewing for an HCV sales job; one of the candidates presented Mike with a "brag" book the day before the interview. Mike, brings the other candidate to the front door of his office, and points to the brag book, and gives the "wink-wink/nod nod" for the candidate to take the brag book of his competition, use it for ideas. Now, remember, Mike is the NSD. How bush league was that?

Next, Walt Maguire absolutely carried Mike while he was in HCV. Think of Walt as Dick Cheney, to Mike's George Bush. Every single innovative idea that mike had, came directly from Walt. Want more, ask tom klein about the expense report with the 350/person dinner. I could go on, and, on, and on.

Yes, Mike was an RSD at Genzyme FOR LESS THAN ONE YEAR. He was an RSD Roche IN TITLE ONLY, as there never was anything to sell ala mircera. It is not his fault that he was in way over his head. Yes, Pegasys market share jumped, while he held the NSD position, but that trajectory started before he took over. The catalyst, that caused the rapid increase in share was the IDEAL study from Scherring, and you know that. However, you can not take market share to the bank. Again, I know for a fact, that the financial objectives were NOT met for most of the years that mike was the NSD. That means that pegasys volume rarely at forecast; don't believe me, just ask tom or teresa what percent of budget pegasys achieved during those years.

No one is arguing that mike was not a nice guy that you would love to have a beer with. He was a nice guy, but he was a really a bit of a dufus. Lastly, do you really believe that he voluntarily stepped down from leading 200 people, to being a glorified DM, managing 8 people, with some bogus "reimbursement" positions? Do you know what that looks like on his resume? Give me a break, mike was pushed, he did not jump.
 






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Ohhhh!, so everyone around him were idiots, but HE was a genius! Yup, you are a buddy. Again, I have no idea of why you are injecting race into this discussion; it is not relevant. To say that black people get preferential treatment defies logic, just look around you. How many black people do you see? PS: All the "great ideas" he had; where do you think that they came from? Leave race out of the issue, if you know the professional Kendall AND you know the professional background of Mike, you know that it is completely unfair to Mike to compare, its not even close. No one is arguing that Kendall should have gotten the job, I know for a fact why he didn't.

I have first hand knowledge of what an absolute idiot he was. Like I said, the actual HR Director for HCV literally told me that "Mike got the job because he did not have to relocate, and the other finalist did." That's a direct quote.

Here's another actual anecdote. Two people were interviewing for an HCV sales job; one of the candidates presented Mike with a "brag" book the day before the interview. Mike, brings the other candidate to the front door of his office, and points to the brag book, and gives the "wink-wink/nod nod" for the candidate to take the brag book of his competition, use it for ideas. Now, remember, Mike is the NSD. How bush league was that?

Next, Walt Maguire absolutely carried Mike while he was in HCV. Think of Walt as Dick Cheney, to Mike's George Bush. Every single innovative idea that mike had, came directly from Walt. Want more, ask tom klein about the expense report with the 350/person dinner. I could go on, and, on, and on.

Yes, Mike was an RSD at Genzyme FOR LESS THAN ONE YEAR. He was an RSD Roche IN TITLE ONLY, as there never was anything to sell ala mircera. It is not his fault that he was in way over his head. Yes, Pegasys market share jumped, while he held the NSD position, but that trajectory started before he took over. The catalyst, that caused the rapid increase in share was the IDEAL study from Scherring, and you know that. However, you can not take market share to the bank. Again, I know for a fact, that the financial objectives were NOT met for most of the years that mike was the NSD. That means that pegasys volume rarely at forecast; don't believe me, just ask tom or teresa what percent of budget pegasys achieved during those years.

No one is arguing that mike was not a nice guy that you would love to have a beer with. He was a nice guy, but he was a really a bit of a dufus. Lastly, do you really believe that he voluntarily stepped down from leading 200 people, to being a glorified DM, managing 8 people, with some bogus "reimbursement" positions? Do you know what that looks like on his resume? Give me a break, mike was pushed, he did not jump.
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Earl, let it go! You are a brotha and that's how you got your job. Your brotha Kendall is a nice guy too, but Genentech couldn't wait to lay his sorry ass off either. Good for you! Sorry Mike thought you were an idiot! Move on with your life! By the way, Pegasys did great and everybody made a lot of money. Sorry you were exiled and are now out of work. Good luck at Walmart and stay off cafe pharma! We all know it's you.
 


















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