Medical Sales College. Is it for Real?


Just found this on another thread. Now this is impressive.
Has anyone talked with any of these people?

Lilly T.



From the moment I called the Medical Sales College I knew
that I had found the right place for me to bring together all of my education
and experiences into an incredibly exciting field. The curriculum at MSC is
very demanding and dynamic; exactly what I expected from my investment. I feel
confident in my ability to not only learn the technical aspects of any medical

device area, but more importantly I gained the confidence to succeed in
choosing this as a new career direction for me. The staff at MSC demand the
best of their students, which fosters their vision to improve medical sales
globally with a trained and credentialed sales force. I am proud to have been
part of a wonderful opportunity at MSC.



Amy W.



Words cannot express how thankful I am for Medical Sales
College. As a flight attendant with no sales experience, MSC not only taught me
invaluable sales experience but it also gave me the confidence to know that I
will be successful in this industry. The standard of excellence that is modeled
at every level of MSC inspires me to be excellent! I honestly think the

monetary expense and time away from home is a small price to pay for what I
learned. Thank you MSC for this life changing experience. I would recommend and
have recommended this program to any one who wants to enter into this field.



Brian B.



MSC offers fantastic course work and the guidance necessary
to break into the challenging field of Medical Device Sales. I interviewed with
three different companies and now have a position in this industry. These
opportunities took place because of the Medical Sales College. I highly
recommend this program.



James Mckissic



Before I went to AIMS, I had strong B2B sales experience but
I lacked the knowledge and experience needed to make my way into the medical
device industry. AIMS helped me bridge the gap! I’ve been working in the
industry for almost two years now. Going to AIMS was the best choice I could
have made for my career! Thanks to the whole AIMS team!



J.D. Cashman



There is no question that the medical device industry is one
of the toughest to break into. After trying for nearly two years I decided to
attend Medical Sales College. I can say with complete honesty that the
experience was well worth the investment. The two month education process was
challenging but extremely rewarding. Lectures are delivered with passion and
the classroom environment is always engaging. Upon graduating from the Spine
program I had several interviews with several great companies that I never
would have been able to meet with had I not attended Medical Sales College. If
you are passionate about working in this industry you should not hesitate to
apply. My experience was nothing short of incredible.




Tom Petrowski



I recently graduated from the Medical Sales College. The
education I received was top notch. They gave me the confidence and the skill
set which will allow me to be successful as I begin my Medical Device Sales Rep
position with Stryker!! I thank the Medical Sales College for helping me break
into this exciting industry!!



Tom Cregg



I
highly recommend attending the Medical Sales College. If you have experienced
the difficulties breaking into this industry due to not having the medical
background, then this is the place for you. I would not have been able to get
the interviews and obtain a position without it.



Joe Mascis



I tried to get a job in medical device sales for close to
two years before I found AIMS College. I had plenty of sales experience but no
prior medical sales experience. I could not get an interview with anybody.
After completing my 10-week program with AIMS, I was interviewing with two
medical devise companies and landed a job with Zimmer. I won’t lie, the
interview process was very tough but had it not been for the AIMS training on
my resume, I would have never been in considered. Once I started working I was
more knowledgeable and quicker to adapt to the environment then other new
hires. I still refer to things I learned at AIMS to this day.



John Bramhall



With out a doubt one of the best decisions I have ever made!
This 8 - week program changed my LIFE! Not only did I land a great job, I made
some new relationships that will last a lifetime! I'm so thankful for the
entire staff at The Medical Sales College!!



David Lavery



I just wanted to update you and the crew that I have moved
on to a new position with Synthes Trauma. I am very happy with the move and I
wanted to thank everyone at MSC for the advantages you provided to me by
attending the program. This was key in that the manager who hired me loved that
I was willing to take a risk and invest in myself by attending MSC. My new

position with Synthes included an awesome compensation package and I am very
grateful for this opportunity



Timothy Grace


I attended Medical Sales College in February/March of 2011
based on the referral of a previous graduate. This school was definitely above
and beyond my highest expectations. The hiring managers I interviewed with
couldn't believe the knowledge I attained in just eight weeks. I truly felt the
passion each and everyday that came from my instructors. I believe this

institution is making great changes this industry daily. Nonetheless I am
extremely happy with my new career and thank MSC for all the wonderful
knowledge I gained.




Brett Cleverdon



If you are looking to break into medical sales, and have no
prior experience in the industry, Medical Sales College is without a doubt the
way to go. There is such a huge learning curve in medical sales, which is why
employers are hesitant to hire people without any experience. The training by
the staff at MSC and the tools they provide will give you a HUGE competitive

edge over other job seekers. I am proud to say that I was hired on by DePuy,
one of the best and largest orthopaedic companies in the world, a week after
graduating. Not only that, I was hired into an award-winning distributorship

and given my own territory. After just 18 months in the field on my own, I am
close to a producing a million dollar territory that previously did not have any
representation. I have even won a few trauma sales contests and earned some
very nice bonuses with my short time in the field. I thank MSC for giving me
the opportunity to have what I feel is the greatest job in the world.



Amy Wamsley



I am writing to thank Medical Sales College for my success
in the medical device field. I work for Smith & Nephew orthopedics and use
what I learned from the school everyday. I wouldn't even be half as successful
if I hadn't attended. I say if you want to break into the medical device
industry you should absolutely start the medical sales college and GO! You will
never regret your decision. You will study your ass off, you will be stressed,
you will be happy, you will lose sleep but you will graduate with a tremendous
sense of accomplishment and hopefully a job. It is the best decision I ever
made!



Joel Smith



I am writing this letter to let others know about my
experience at Medical Sales College (MSC). I was looking for options getting
into Medical Device sales and found MSC as one of my top choices. It was a
difficult decision with a huge commitment of time, money, and sacrifice on my
part. The potential of getting into the industry held huge promise and a
phenomenal up side. MSC and its instructors gave me the foundation needed to be
successful in the Medical Device industry. I can say without any reservation
that I would not be where I am today without the instruction, guidance, and
direction that I received from MSC.



James Hallbeck



AIMS was the best decision that I ever made. The training
that I got there gave me a huge competitive advantage coming out of the
classroom into the field. I was a rookie rep with the confidence and knowledge
of a two year rep. Rob Mitchell was my instructor and really was precise in
giving our class enough information to truly be effective as a rep. Since
graduating AIMS, I have been working now for Wright Medical for 15 months.
During that time I took a territory basically doing $10K per month in business
and expanded it to $70K per month selling only foot and ankle products.
Currently in my distributorship I am the only rep running over 100% to quota.
Thanks again AIMS for giving me a new start to a successful career.



Jordan Workman



AIMS not only prepared me to land a career with one of the
top spine companies in the world, but also supplied me with a solid foundation
to hit the ground running right away. The Spine program, lead by the infamous
Mitch Seigars, helped accelerated my learning curve, and get to my very own
territory quicker. It was a great experience and I'd recommend it to anyone
looking to break into the industry. Thanks.



Ian McCormick



I have nothing but the best to say about this school. I
graduated a few years ago and have been happily working in the medical device
field. My thanks and appreciation lie in a few key individuals who helped me
get into the school, and eventually into the field. My primary study of focus
was not what I ended up actually doing but the school gave me a great
fundamental understanding of basic medical information I needed to know as well
as a good introduction to life as a rep. The most valuable piece of the puzzle
was after my schooling. The connections with device manufacturers and
distributors was priceless. I had tried time and again previously to get into
the industry but I needed someone on the inside. This school was it. They have

made many changes since I have been involved with the school but I know there
are a few individuals still with the company that make this a great opportunity
for people like myself



Josh Strom



Medical Sales College is worth every penny and more. Not
only did I receive invaluable training and knowledge that has put steps ahead
of the competition, but also their dedicated staff of recruiters helped me to
land in my dream career. Furthermore, the instruction and tutelage does not
stop when you leave the school, I can call Medical Sales College today and

anyone of the instructors would lend their expertise and knowledge to help a
former graduate because they want you to succeed that is priceless! My only
complaint regarding Medical Sales College is I wish the in-house portion in
Denver lasted longer because I was not ready to leave the relationships I had
formed with my peers and the Medical Sales College staff; I will always value
those relationships.



Scott K



If you are looking to find an opening into medical sales,
this is the absolute BEST way to do it. I worked hard and got the most out of
my training and it is paying off now that I am in the field.



Nicole Tittle



Medical Sales College provided me more than just a basic
understanding of the industry. After completion of the 8 week course, I had
product knowledge, selling strategies, and the confidence to communicate
effectively with surgeons. This program changed my life by enabling me to
succeed in an industry that had previously been difficult to break into. I have

been working for a while now, and the entire staff continues to provide support
and encouragement. I would HIGHLY recommend this program to anyone who is serious
and dedicated to doing whatever it takes to succeed in the medical device

world.





Nikki C.





Medical Sales College and the fantastic team at AIMS
provided me with the training and support I needed to land my first medical
device sales position. Top-notch sales training combined with medical and
procedural training to back it up. Be prepared to work just as hard as you will
in the field. I highly recommend this program!





Max Krupp



The Academy course was rigorous and filled with lots of
hands-on training. Not a day passed by where I did not feel overwhelmed by the
intensity and nature of the course. But with the difficulty came the reward. By
the end of the course, I felt extremely confident about my abilities, and was
able to obtain a sales position with DePuy Orthopaedics in under 3 weeks of
graduating. Since then, I have been able to speak with surgeons,
representatives, and other healthcare employees about orthopaedic surgery in a
way that I would never have before deemed possible. And while there is still a
plethora of topics, surgical techniques, and medical instruments to learn
about, I have been able to effectively shorten the learning curve of this

difficult career by the time and effort I put into the training I received at
MSC.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jan/13/medical-sales-school-greets-students/



It's too early to say if the school will be a lasting
success, but it's already attracted interest from companies.



"What this school will produce is what we and other
orthopedic companies are looking for," he said.



Bob Purcell, vice president of sales for Gainesville,
Fla.-based Exactech.



Also touring the facility were Phil Mercier and Michael
Peters, who run the orthopedic sales rep training academy for medical device
maker Smith & Nephew.



"We're looking to explore how it could better train
someone coming into our program," Peters said.



New center to train medical device sales representatives


By Daniel Connolly



There's a strong need for better-trained medical device
sales representatives, said Albert Dacosta, a regional sales manager for Wright
who has worked closely with Rogers.



"I hire somebody new, and I will spend the first five
months, four months with somebody teaching them all the things they need to
know that they would never read in a book," Dacosta said. Rogers' school
could shorten the process, he said.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/13/tough-sell/



Just ask William Warrender Jr., senior vice president of
global sales for Austin-based Ascension Orthopedics, how tough it is to find an
orthopedic sales rep -- a position not only responsible for selling artificial
knees and hips to surgeons, but also required to accompany them to the
operating room as a hands-off aide.



Sales people are learning not only how to sell orthopedic
devices, but also how the devices function in classes taught by Ascension
Orthopedics. Chip Tubbs (left) of Atlanta and Matt Thompson of Phoenix get
hands-on experience with devices.



Orthopedic sales reps are in high demand, and Ascension
Orthopedics offers an extensive education in the devices. William F. Warrender
Jr., senior vice president of global sales for Ascension, talks with students.



"Oh, heck yes," said Warrender, who
has had to fire 50 percent of his sales team.



Too often good sales reps already have jobs and can't be
lured away due to noncompete contracts.



Moreover, companies take big risks hiring outside the
industry, usually waiting a year before new hires show fruit.



That's why Warrender isn't taking any chances this time.



He plans to hire his next 10 sales reps from this program.

People are starting to believe that MSC is just out to take their money.
 








Just found this on another thread. Now this is impressive.
Has anyone talked with any of these people?

Lilly T.



From the moment I called the Medical Sales College I knew
that I had found the right place for me to bring together all of my education
and experiences into an incredibly exciting field. The curriculum at MSC is
very demanding and dynamic; exactly what I expected from my investment. I feel
confident in my ability to not only learn the technical aspects of any medical

device area, but more importantly I gained the confidence to succeed in
choosing this as a new career direction for me. The staff at MSC demand the
best of their students, which fosters their vision to improve medical sales
globally with a trained and credentialed sales force. I am proud to have been
part of a wonderful opportunity at MSC.



Amy W.



Words cannot express how thankful I am for Medical Sales
College. As a flight attendant with no sales experience, MSC not only taught me
invaluable sales experience but it also gave me the confidence to know that I
will be successful in this industry. The standard of excellence that is modeled
at every level of MSC inspires me to be excellent! I honestly think the

monetary expense and time away from home is a small price to pay for what I
learned. Thank you MSC for this life changing experience. I would recommend and
have recommended this program to any one who wants to enter into this field.



Brian B.



MSC offers fantastic course work and the guidance necessary
to break into the challenging field of Medical Device Sales. I interviewed with
three different companies and now have a position in this industry. These
opportunities took place because of the Medical Sales College. I highly
recommend this program.



James Mckissic



Before I went to AIMS, I had strong B2B sales experience but
I lacked the knowledge and experience needed to make my way into the medical
device industry. AIMS helped me bridge the gap! I’ve been working in the
industry for almost two years now. Going to AIMS was the best choice I could
have made for my career! Thanks to the whole AIMS team!



J.D. Cashman



There is no question that the medical device industry is one
of the toughest to break into. After trying for nearly two years I decided to
attend Medical Sales College. I can say with complete honesty that the
experience was well worth the investment. The two month education process was
challenging but extremely rewarding. Lectures are delivered with passion and
the classroom environment is always engaging. Upon graduating from the Spine
program I had several interviews with several great companies that I never
would have been able to meet with had I not attended Medical Sales College. If
you are passionate about working in this industry you should not hesitate to
apply. My experience was nothing short of incredible.




Tom Petrowski



I recently graduated from the Medical Sales College. The
education I received was top notch. They gave me the confidence and the skill
set which will allow me to be successful as I begin my Medical Device Sales Rep
position with Stryker!! I thank the Medical Sales College for helping me break
into this exciting industry!!



Tom Cregg



I
highly recommend attending the Medical Sales College. If you have experienced
the difficulties breaking into this industry due to not having the medical
background, then this is the place for you. I would not have been able to get
the interviews and obtain a position without it.



Joe Mascis



I tried to get a job in medical device sales for close to
two years before I found AIMS College. I had plenty of sales experience but no
prior medical sales experience. I could not get an interview with anybody.
After completing my 10-week program with AIMS, I was interviewing with two
medical devise companies and landed a job with Zimmer. I won’t lie, the
interview process was very tough but had it not been for the AIMS training on
my resume, I would have never been in considered. Once I started working I was
more knowledgeable and quicker to adapt to the environment then other new
hires. I still refer to things I learned at AIMS to this day.



John Bramhall



With out a doubt one of the best decisions I have ever made!
This 8 - week program changed my LIFE! Not only did I land a great job, I made
some new relationships that will last a lifetime! I'm so thankful for the
entire staff at The Medical Sales College!!



David Lavery



I just wanted to update you and the crew that I have moved
on to a new position with Synthes Trauma. I am very happy with the move and I
wanted to thank everyone at MSC for the advantages you provided to me by
attending the program. This was key in that the manager who hired me loved that
I was willing to take a risk and invest in myself by attending MSC. My new

position with Synthes included an awesome compensation package and I am very
grateful for this opportunity



Timothy Grace


I attended Medical Sales College in February/March of 2011
based on the referral of a previous graduate. This school was definitely above
and beyond my highest expectations. The hiring managers I interviewed with
couldn't believe the knowledge I attained in just eight weeks. I truly felt the
passion each and everyday that came from my instructors. I believe this

institution is making great changes this industry daily. Nonetheless I am
extremely happy with my new career and thank MSC for all the wonderful
knowledge I gained.




Brett Cleverdon



If you are looking to break into medical sales, and have no
prior experience in the industry, Medical Sales College is without a doubt the
way to go. There is such a huge learning curve in medical sales, which is why
employers are hesitant to hire people without any experience. The training by
the staff at MSC and the tools they provide will give you a HUGE competitive

edge over other job seekers. I am proud to say that I was hired on by DePuy,
one of the best and largest orthopaedic companies in the world, a week after
graduating. Not only that, I was hired into an award-winning distributorship

and given my own territory. After just 18 months in the field on my own, I am
close to a producing a million dollar territory that previously did not have any
representation. I have even won a few trauma sales contests and earned some
very nice bonuses with my short time in the field. I thank MSC for giving me
the opportunity to have what I feel is the greatest job in the world.



Amy Wamsley



I am writing to thank Medical Sales College for my success
in the medical device field. I work for Smith & Nephew orthopedics and use
what I learned from the school everyday. I wouldn't even be half as successful
if I hadn't attended. I say if you want to break into the medical device
industry you should absolutely start the medical sales college and GO! You will
never regret your decision. You will study your ass off, you will be stressed,
you will be happy, you will lose sleep but you will graduate with a tremendous
sense of accomplishment and hopefully a job. It is the best decision I ever
made!



Joel Smith



I am writing this letter to let others know about my
experience at Medical Sales College (MSC). I was looking for options getting
into Medical Device sales and found MSC as one of my top choices. It was a
difficult decision with a huge commitment of time, money, and sacrifice on my
part. The potential of getting into the industry held huge promise and a
phenomenal up side. MSC and its instructors gave me the foundation needed to be
successful in the Medical Device industry. I can say without any reservation
that I would not be where I am today without the instruction, guidance, and
direction that I received from MSC.



James Hallbeck



AIMS was the best decision that I ever made. The training
that I got there gave me a huge competitive advantage coming out of the
classroom into the field. I was a rookie rep with the confidence and knowledge
of a two year rep. Rob Mitchell was my instructor and really was precise in
giving our class enough information to truly be effective as a rep. Since
graduating AIMS, I have been working now for Wright Medical for 15 months.
During that time I took a territory basically doing $10K per month in business
and expanded it to $70K per month selling only foot and ankle products.
Currently in my distributorship I am the only rep running over 100% to quota.
Thanks again AIMS for giving me a new start to a successful career.



Jordan Workman



AIMS not only prepared me to land a career with one of the
top spine companies in the world, but also supplied me with a solid foundation
to hit the ground running right away. The Spine program, lead by the infamous
Mitch Seigars, helped accelerated my learning curve, and get to my very own
territory quicker. It was a great experience and I'd recommend it to anyone
looking to break into the industry. Thanks.



Ian McCormick



I have nothing but the best to say about this school. I
graduated a few years ago and have been happily working in the medical device
field. My thanks and appreciation lie in a few key individuals who helped me
get into the school, and eventually into the field. My primary study of focus
was not what I ended up actually doing but the school gave me a great
fundamental understanding of basic medical information I needed to know as well
as a good introduction to life as a rep. The most valuable piece of the puzzle
was after my schooling. The connections with device manufacturers and
distributors was priceless. I had tried time and again previously to get into
the industry but I needed someone on the inside. This school was it. They have

made many changes since I have been involved with the school but I know there
are a few individuals still with the company that make this a great opportunity
for people like myself



Josh Strom



Medical Sales College is worth every penny and more. Not
only did I receive invaluable training and knowledge that has put steps ahead
of the competition, but also their dedicated staff of recruiters helped me to
land in my dream career. Furthermore, the instruction and tutelage does not
stop when you leave the school, I can call Medical Sales College today and

anyone of the instructors would lend their expertise and knowledge to help a
former graduate because they want you to succeed that is priceless! My only
complaint regarding Medical Sales College is I wish the in-house portion in
Denver lasted longer because I was not ready to leave the relationships I had
formed with my peers and the Medical Sales College staff; I will always value
those relationships.



Scott K



If you are looking to find an opening into medical sales,
this is the absolute BEST way to do it. I worked hard and got the most out of
my training and it is paying off now that I am in the field.



Nicole Tittle



Medical Sales College provided me more than just a basic
understanding of the industry. After completion of the 8 week course, I had
product knowledge, selling strategies, and the confidence to communicate
effectively with surgeons. This program changed my life by enabling me to
succeed in an industry that had previously been difficult to break into. I have

been working for a while now, and the entire staff continues to provide support
and encouragement. I would HIGHLY recommend this program to anyone who is serious
and dedicated to doing whatever it takes to succeed in the medical device

world.





Nikki C.





Medical Sales College and the fantastic team at AIMS
provided me with the training and support I needed to land my first medical
device sales position. Top-notch sales training combined with medical and
procedural training to back it up. Be prepared to work just as hard as you will
in the field. I highly recommend this program!





Max Krupp



The Academy course was rigorous and filled with lots of
hands-on training. Not a day passed by where I did not feel overwhelmed by the
intensity and nature of the course. But with the difficulty came the reward. By
the end of the course, I felt extremely confident about my abilities, and was
able to obtain a sales position with DePuy Orthopaedics in under 3 weeks of
graduating. Since then, I have been able to speak with surgeons,
representatives, and other healthcare employees about orthopaedic surgery in a
way that I would never have before deemed possible. And while there is still a
plethora of topics, surgical techniques, and medical instruments to learn
about, I have been able to effectively shorten the learning curve of this

difficult career by the time and effort I put into the training I received at
MSC.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jan/13/medical-sales-school-greets-students/



It's too early to say if the school will be a lasting
success, but it's already attracted interest from companies.



"What this school will produce is what we and other
orthopedic companies are looking for," he said.



Bob Purcell, vice president of sales for Gainesville,
Fla.-based Exactech.



Also touring the facility were Phil Mercier and Michael
Peters, who run the orthopedic sales rep training academy for medical device
maker Smith & Nephew.



"We're looking to explore how it could better train
someone coming into our program," Peters said.



New center to train medical device sales representatives


By Daniel Connolly



There's a strong need for better-trained medical device
sales representatives, said Albert Dacosta, a regional sales manager for Wright
who has worked closely with Rogers.



"I hire somebody new, and I will spend the first five
months, four months with somebody teaching them all the things they need to
know that they would never read in a book," Dacosta said. Rogers' school
could shorten the process, he said.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/13/tough-sell/



Just ask William Warrender Jr., senior vice president of
global sales for Austin-based Ascension Orthopedics, how tough it is to find an
orthopedic sales rep -- a position not only responsible for selling artificial
knees and hips to surgeons, but also required to accompany them to the
operating room as a hands-off aide.



Sales people are learning not only how to sell orthopedic
devices, but also how the devices function in classes taught by Ascension
Orthopedics. Chip Tubbs (left) of Atlanta and Matt Thompson of Phoenix get
hands-on experience with devices.



Orthopedic sales reps are in high demand, and Ascension
Orthopedics offers an extensive education in the devices. William F. Warrender
Jr., senior vice president of global sales for Ascension, talks with students.



"Oh, heck yes," said Warrender, who
has had to fire 50 percent of his sales team.



Too often good sales reps already have jobs and can't be
lured away due to noncompete contracts.



Moreover, companies take big risks hiring outside the
industry, usually waiting a year before new hires show fruit.



That's why Warrender isn't taking any chances this time.



He plans to hire his next 10 sales reps from this program.



People are starting to believe that MSC is the only way to get into medical sales!!!

Look at the people above... All people, All with jobs, All with names....

It works!!!
 








People are starting to believe that MSC is the only way to get into medical sales!!!

Look at the people above... All people, All with jobs, All with names....

It works!!!

Don't believe this obvious Elite-MSC owner or employee. They give you a bunch of names of grads who allegedly got hired, but they never tell you how these people got their jobs.

1) Were they placed by MSC or Elite, or did they find positions on their own? Yes, it matters on how they got jobs, since MSC charges thousands.

2) Also, how did they calculate the 81% placement figure they keep boasting about?
 








It all depends on the person and personality. An advanced degree means nothing when it comes to sales. I have met some MBA's that could not sell an umbrella during a rain storm.
 








The following is a post from a student from another thread. He (angry agenda driven poster) will quickly say this is MSC or an employee.

It is quite clear that they have several people that have attended and several people placed.

All of this HAS been verified even through Mr. Angry poster. It would make sense that former and current students would be on here posting with insight that makes a better case than Mr. Angry.

You see, they couldn't answer any of the following questions that this student posted. They call something a "scam" even though everyone receives an education. I would call a "scam" something you pay for that you either get nothing at all (didn't exist) or something worthless in return. To my knowledge, have you seen anyone complain that they attended the college and it wasn't real? In fact, you will see even negative posters express how good the education is. Therefore, didn't they pay for the education? (I am sure this is why you see no complaints)

Then, look through the hundreds upon hundreds that have jobs in the device industry. You don't see Mr. Angry arguing that people post the college have jobs. What he argues is that the jobs were produced post the education from the students. Who cares? Isn't the idea to get into the most difficult industry?

I like many other graduating students went through the college because even though I had an extensive and successful B2B background, I could get an interview but was always passed on for someone else that had more medical sales experience.

My very first interview post the college and I was placed. I have recommended two other friends. One was placed in January and the other is about to go in-house at Denver. My reason for posting is to support those serious about getting into medical sales.

Because Mr. Angry can't win (this and other threads have been going on since 2008), they stoop to all levels and efforts to defame. They can't answer the simple questions below because they are accurate!!!!!

Can you believe that this "tool" spends this much time posting? he wasn't even a student (of course not he has something to lose hence why he keeps posting).

His latest comments on threads is that he has posted constantly including on the RipOff Report. He obviously has an agenda and is nothing more than a loser than has too much time on his hands. Probably because he either didn't get accepted to MSC, has no money to pay for MSC or has lost all of his recruitment business to MSC.

If you just look through the threads you can see him posting the EXACT comments on every thread. It is so obvious that 95% of what you see is him.

I do like the post hence why I have copied for reference for Mr. Angry A.K.A. "tool"


The postings are almost comical.

People, this is Café “fuckin*” Pharma.

This thread has been here since 2008! It has always been the same thing. Nothing has changed from the posts. The school became a college, the recruitment arm expanded 10 fold and the placements continue.

People will still be blogging ONLY because they remain anonymous. If you WISH it by positing it do you think it will become a reality?

Hmmmm, maybe if I blog for 15 years as a “scam”, after 30,000 placements somebody will listen?

Save it…..

Simple questions if you can answer would prove your point!

1) How did they get licensed as a college and maintain the approval if they are a scam?

2) Why hasn’t anyone filled a complaint against the Medical Sales College either to the licensing board or the BBB if they were “scammed”?

(Ever notice how you never hear a former Medical Sales College graduate tell you how they were scammed? – They have had hundreds…nothing? Even on CP?)

3) How is it that so many people have attended, listed the college on their profiles and have jobs in the industry if it doesn’t work?

4) How would major manufactures allow use of logos and representations if they were a scam without suing them?

5) Why are they listed in major publications, as experts in they are a scam?

6) Why would the Wall Street Journal call Jim Rogers to get his take on the largest mergers in the industry if they are a scam?

7) How in orthopedic trade publications are they featured with “front-page” published articles if they are a scam?

8) How is it that newspapers such as the Commercial Appeal has articles and pictures with multiple VP’s of device companies commenting POSITIVLY if they are a scam?

9) How is it that over 130 pages of REAL STUDENT testimonials on their website exists if it is a scam?

10) Why are employers commenting in the testimonials if they are a scam?

11) Why is the MSC Facebook pages filled with pictures and placements with other students responding POSITIVLY if they are a scam?

12) Why have many major device companies participated in “sales rep” corporate training at their facilities if they are a scam?

13) Why have they participated in presentations at the major national sales meetings if they are a scam?

14) How is it that they have more than 200 jobs if they are a scam?

I could keep going on and on…


The funny thing is that nobody will respond answering each question. It will just be; “because they are a scam”, “certification sucks”, “I wouldn’t hire them”.


The fact is – The MEDICAL SALES COLLEGE works!

Posted from a caring student… Thank you MSC!




Great post from a student. One of the two I really liked. Great points and you were right, nobody ever disputed any of this.
 








Just found this on another thread. Now this is impressive.
Has anyone talked with any of these people?

Lilly T.



From the moment I called the Medical Sales College I knew
that I had found the right place for me to bring together all of my education
and experiences into an incredibly exciting field. The curriculum at MSC is
very demanding and dynamic; exactly what I expected from my investment. I feel
confident in my ability to not only learn the technical aspects of any medical

device area, but more importantly I gained the confidence to succeed in
choosing this as a new career direction for me. The staff at MSC demand the
best of their students, which fosters their vision to improve medical sales
globally with a trained and credentialed sales force. I am proud to have been
part of a wonderful opportunity at MSC.



Amy W.



Words cannot express how thankful I am for Medical Sales
College. As a flight attendant with no sales experience, MSC not only taught me
invaluable sales experience but it also gave me the confidence to know that I
will be successful in this industry. The standard of excellence that is modeled
at every level of MSC inspires me to be excellent! I honestly think the

monetary expense and time away from home is a small price to pay for what I
learned. Thank you MSC for this life changing experience. I would recommend and
have recommended this program to any one who wants to enter into this field.



Brian B.



MSC offers fantastic course work and the guidance necessary
to break into the challenging field of Medical Device Sales. I interviewed with
three different companies and now have a position in this industry. These
opportunities took place because of the Medical Sales College. I highly
recommend this program.



James Mckissic



Before I went to AIMS, I had strong B2B sales experience but
I lacked the knowledge and experience needed to make my way into the medical
device industry. AIMS helped me bridge the gap! I’ve been working in the
industry for almost two years now. Going to AIMS was the best choice I could
have made for my career! Thanks to the whole AIMS team!



J.D. Cashman



There is no question that the medical device industry is one
of the toughest to break into. After trying for nearly two years I decided to
attend Medical Sales College. I can say with complete honesty that the
experience was well worth the investment. The two month education process was
challenging but extremely rewarding. Lectures are delivered with passion and
the classroom environment is always engaging. Upon graduating from the Spine
program I had several interviews with several great companies that I never
would have been able to meet with had I not attended Medical Sales College. If
you are passionate about working in this industry you should not hesitate to
apply. My experience was nothing short of incredible.




Tom Petrowski



I recently graduated from the Medical Sales College. The
education I received was top notch. They gave me the confidence and the skill
set which will allow me to be successful as I begin my Medical Device Sales Rep
position with Stryker!! I thank the Medical Sales College for helping me break
into this exciting industry!!



Tom Cregg



I
highly recommend attending the Medical Sales College. If you have experienced
the difficulties breaking into this industry due to not having the medical
background, then this is the place for you. I would not have been able to get
the interviews and obtain a position without it.



Joe Mascis



I tried to get a job in medical device sales for close to
two years before I found AIMS College. I had plenty of sales experience but no
prior medical sales experience. I could not get an interview with anybody.
After completing my 10-week program with AIMS, I was interviewing with two
medical devise companies and landed a job with Zimmer. I won’t lie, the
interview process was very tough but had it not been for the AIMS training on
my resume, I would have never been in considered. Once I started working I was
more knowledgeable and quicker to adapt to the environment then other new
hires. I still refer to things I learned at AIMS to this day.



John Bramhall



With out a doubt one of the best decisions I have ever made!
This 8 - week program changed my LIFE! Not only did I land a great job, I made
some new relationships that will last a lifetime! I'm so thankful for the
entire staff at The Medical Sales College!!



David Lavery



I just wanted to update you and the crew that I have moved
on to a new position with Synthes Trauma. I am very happy with the move and I
wanted to thank everyone at MSC for the advantages you provided to me by
attending the program. This was key in that the manager who hired me loved that
I was willing to take a risk and invest in myself by attending MSC. My new

position with Synthes included an awesome compensation package and I am very
grateful for this opportunity



Timothy Grace


I attended Medical Sales College in February/March of 2011
based on the referral of a previous graduate. This school was definitely above
and beyond my highest expectations. The hiring managers I interviewed with
couldn't believe the knowledge I attained in just eight weeks. I truly felt the
passion each and everyday that came from my instructors. I believe this

institution is making great changes this industry daily. Nonetheless I am
extremely happy with my new career and thank MSC for all the wonderful
knowledge I gained.




Brett Cleverdon



If you are looking to break into medical sales, and have no
prior experience in the industry, Medical Sales College is without a doubt the
way to go. There is such a huge learning curve in medical sales, which is why
employers are hesitant to hire people without any experience. The training by
the staff at MSC and the tools they provide will give you a HUGE competitive

edge over other job seekers. I am proud to say that I was hired on by DePuy,
one of the best and largest orthopaedic companies in the world, a week after
graduating. Not only that, I was hired into an award-winning distributorship

and given my own territory. After just 18 months in the field on my own, I am
close to a producing a million dollar territory that previously did not have any
representation. I have even won a few trauma sales contests and earned some
very nice bonuses with my short time in the field. I thank MSC for giving me
the opportunity to have what I feel is the greatest job in the world.



Amy Wamsley



I am writing to thank Medical Sales College for my success
in the medical device field. I work for Smith & Nephew orthopedics and use
what I learned from the school everyday. I wouldn't even be half as successful
if I hadn't attended. I say if you want to break into the medical device
industry you should absolutely start the medical sales college and GO! You will
never regret your decision. You will study your ass off, you will be stressed,
you will be happy, you will lose sleep but you will graduate with a tremendous
sense of accomplishment and hopefully a job. It is the best decision I ever
made!



Joel Smith



I am writing this letter to let others know about my
experience at Medical Sales College (MSC). I was looking for options getting
into Medical Device sales and found MSC as one of my top choices. It was a
difficult decision with a huge commitment of time, money, and sacrifice on my
part. The potential of getting into the industry held huge promise and a
phenomenal up side. MSC and its instructors gave me the foundation needed to be
successful in the Medical Device industry. I can say without any reservation
that I would not be where I am today without the instruction, guidance, and
direction that I received from MSC.



James Hallbeck



AIMS was the best decision that I ever made. The training
that I got there gave me a huge competitive advantage coming out of the
classroom into the field. I was a rookie rep with the confidence and knowledge
of a two year rep. Rob Mitchell was my instructor and really was precise in
giving our class enough information to truly be effective as a rep. Since
graduating AIMS, I have been working now for Wright Medical for 15 months.
During that time I took a territory basically doing $10K per month in business
and expanded it to $70K per month selling only foot and ankle products.
Currently in my distributorship I am the only rep running over 100% to quota.
Thanks again AIMS for giving me a new start to a successful career.



Jordan Workman



AIMS not only prepared me to land a career with one of the
top spine companies in the world, but also supplied me with a solid foundation
to hit the ground running right away. The Spine program, lead by the infamous
Mitch Seigars, helped accelerated my learning curve, and get to my very own
territory quicker. It was a great experience and I'd recommend it to anyone
looking to break into the industry. Thanks.



Ian McCormick



I have nothing but the best to say about this school. I
graduated a few years ago and have been happily working in the medical device
field. My thanks and appreciation lie in a few key individuals who helped me
get into the school, and eventually into the field. My primary study of focus
was not what I ended up actually doing but the school gave me a great
fundamental understanding of basic medical information I needed to know as well
as a good introduction to life as a rep. The most valuable piece of the puzzle
was after my schooling. The connections with device manufacturers and
distributors was priceless. I had tried time and again previously to get into
the industry but I needed someone on the inside. This school was it. They have

made many changes since I have been involved with the school but I know there
are a few individuals still with the company that make this a great opportunity
for people like myself



Josh Strom



Medical Sales College is worth every penny and more. Not
only did I receive invaluable training and knowledge that has put steps ahead
of the competition, but also their dedicated staff of recruiters helped me to
land in my dream career. Furthermore, the instruction and tutelage does not
stop when you leave the school, I can call Medical Sales College today and

anyone of the instructors would lend their expertise and knowledge to help a
former graduate because they want you to succeed that is priceless! My only
complaint regarding Medical Sales College is I wish the in-house portion in
Denver lasted longer because I was not ready to leave the relationships I had
formed with my peers and the Medical Sales College staff; I will always value
those relationships.



Scott K



If you are looking to find an opening into medical sales,
this is the absolute BEST way to do it. I worked hard and got the most out of
my training and it is paying off now that I am in the field.



Nicole Tittle



Medical Sales College provided me more than just a basic
understanding of the industry. After completion of the 8 week course, I had
product knowledge, selling strategies, and the confidence to communicate
effectively with surgeons. This program changed my life by enabling me to
succeed in an industry that had previously been difficult to break into. I have

been working for a while now, and the entire staff continues to provide support
and encouragement. I would HIGHLY recommend this program to anyone who is serious
and dedicated to doing whatever it takes to succeed in the medical device

world.





Nikki C.





Medical Sales College and the fantastic team at AIMS
provided me with the training and support I needed to land my first medical
device sales position. Top-notch sales training combined with medical and
procedural training to back it up. Be prepared to work just as hard as you will
in the field. I highly recommend this program!





Max Krupp



The Academy course was rigorous and filled with lots of
hands-on training. Not a day passed by where I did not feel overwhelmed by the
intensity and nature of the course. But with the difficulty came the reward. By
the end of the course, I felt extremely confident about my abilities, and was
able to obtain a sales position with DePuy Orthopaedics in under 3 weeks of
graduating. Since then, I have been able to speak with surgeons,
representatives, and other healthcare employees about orthopaedic surgery in a
way that I would never have before deemed possible. And while there is still a
plethora of topics, surgical techniques, and medical instruments to learn
about, I have been able to effectively shorten the learning curve of this

difficult career by the time and effort I put into the training I received at
MSC.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jan/13/medical-sales-school-greets-students/



It's too early to say if the school will be a lasting
success, but it's already attracted interest from companies.



"What this school will produce is what we and other
orthopedic companies are looking for," he said.



Bob Purcell, vice president of sales for Gainesville,
Fla.-based Exactech.



Also touring the facility were Phil Mercier and Michael
Peters, who run the orthopedic sales rep training academy for medical device
maker Smith & Nephew.



"We're looking to explore how it could better train
someone coming into our program," Peters said.



New center to train medical device sales representatives


By Daniel Connolly



There's a strong need for better-trained medical device
sales representatives, said Albert Dacosta, a regional sales manager for Wright
who has worked closely with Rogers.



"I hire somebody new, and I will spend the first five
months, four months with somebody teaching them all the things they need to
know that they would never read in a book," Dacosta said. Rogers' school
could shorten the process, he said.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/13/tough-sell/



Just ask William Warrender Jr., senior vice president of
global sales for Austin-based Ascension Orthopedics, how tough it is to find an
orthopedic sales rep -- a position not only responsible for selling artificial
knees and hips to surgeons, but also required to accompany them to the
operating room as a hands-off aide.



Sales people are learning not only how to sell orthopedic
devices, but also how the devices function in classes taught by Ascension
Orthopedics. Chip Tubbs (left) of Atlanta and Matt Thompson of Phoenix get
hands-on experience with devices.



Orthopedic sales reps are in high demand, and Ascension
Orthopedics offers an extensive education in the devices. William F. Warrender
Jr., senior vice president of global sales for Ascension, talks with students.



"Oh, heck yes," said Warrender, who
has had to fire 50 percent of his sales team.



Too often good sales reps already have jobs and can't be
lured away due to noncompete contracts.



Moreover, companies take big risks hiring outside the
industry, usually waiting a year before new hires show fruit.



That's why Warrender isn't taking any chances this time.



He plans to hire his next 10 sales reps from this program.



This is the other one!!!!!
 








Medical Sales College (MSC) will probably tell consumers they are distancing themselves from AIMS Recruiting. The truth is, AIMS, Elite, Blue Chip and MSC are essentially the same company.

AIMS simply recently changed its name to Elite. Perhaps some policies were altered during the metamorphosis, but the same key players remain. Actually, "metamorphosis" is too strong a word, since in this case the caterpillar remains serpentine.

Like AIMS, the primary mission of Elite is still to recruit students for MSC. Elite might now charge hiring companies $2,000 per EXPERIENCED rep, but they probably still make most of their money from hopeful inexperienced jobseekers.

Remember, AIMS once advertised they charged hiring companies ZERO fees. The new $2,000 fee Elite charges hiring companies is probably so they may now claim they have a financial incentive to place MSC grads. In reality, however, Elite can still survive even if they place zero MSC grads.

If MSC’s recruiting arm is so successful, then why would they change its name from Blue Chip, to AIMS, to Elite within a 3 to 4 year period? The “distancing” more than likely has everything to do with avoiding legal, financial and reputational issues.

Finally, having a Medical Sales College Certificate on one’s resume might actually put one at a disadvantage over other applicants since HR departments are now becoming aware that certificate holders were SOLD a controversial for-profit educational product. Again, all points are just my opinion.
 








Medical Sales College (MSC) will probably tell consumers they are distancing themselves from AIMS Recruiting. The truth is, AIMS, Elite, Blue Chip and MSC are essentially the same company.

AIMS simply recently changed its name to Elite. Perhaps some policies were altered during the metamorphosis, but the same key players remain. Actually, "metamorphosis" is too strong a word, since in this case the caterpillar remains serpentine.

Like AIMS, the primary mission of Elite is still to recruit students for MSC. Elite might now charge hiring companies $2,000 per EXPERIENCED rep, but they probably still make most of their money from hopeful inexperienced jobseekers.

Remember, AIMS once advertised they charged hiring companies ZERO fees. The new $2,000 fee Elite charges hiring companies is probably so they may now claim they have a financial incentive to place MSC grads. In reality, however, Elite can still survive even if they place zero MSC grads.

If MSC’s recruiting arm is so successful, then why would they change its name from Blue Chip, to AIMS, to Elite within a 3 to 4 year period? The “distancing” more than likely has everything to do with avoiding legal, financial and reputational issues.

Finally, having a Medical Sales College Certificate on one’s resume might actually put one at a disadvantage over other applicants since HR departments are now becoming aware that certificate holders were SOLD a controversial for-profit educational product. Again, all points are just my opinion.



This is a real easy difference of opinion to solve, can you explain a few things to me?

1) Why would you post the same message over and over on all the threads you have created? (it makes you look desperate and agenda driven)

2) Why would you post outside of AIMS or Medical Sales College?
(It makes you look desperate and agenda driven)

3) How is it possible in this economy for THIS school to have placed more then 400-500 when this would be more than 20-30 recruiters combined? Furthermore, all of these placements without prior med sales experience?

How about answer questions to remove FRAUD from your name. Without it, everyone is learning the truth about you.
 








This is a real easy difference of opinion to solve, can you explain a few things to me?

1) Why would you post the same message over and over on all the threads you have created? (it makes you look desperate and agenda driven)

2) Why would you post outside of AIMS or Medical Sales College?
(It makes you look desperate and agenda driven)

3) How is it possible in this economy for THIS school to have placed more then 400-500 when this would be more than 20-30 recruiters combined? Furthermore, all of these placements without prior med sales experience?

How about answer questions to remove FRAUD from your name. Without it, everyone is learning the truth about you.

Posting the same message in different venues? MSC certainly does that. Desperate? I guess CEOs of companies always defend themselves on Cafepharma. Right.

Today is Sunday. Rest up. You have plenty of resumes to call on tomorrow. Let's hope they don't wise up until day 91 after graduation.
 








Posting the same message in different venues? MSC certainly does that. Desperate? I guess CEOs of companies always defend themselves on Cafepharma. Right.

Today is Sunday. Rest up. You have plenty of resumes to call on tomorrow. Let's hope they don't wise up until day 91 after graduation.

As a graduate, having 500 people placed is significantly more than the 100 not placed. I was one of the placed. I am sure they have support on here. Granted most are working not posting. I don't buy in to your "CEO" posting. If he was, I am sure he would have talked about the other 500 people trained that these same device manufactures such as Synthes (my employer) sent in for MSC sales training. That is enough proof as to the employers view don't you think? It is one thing to hire us graduates, it is entirely another when they hire from MSC and send their existing sales reps in for sales training.

I am lost on your continued "90-day comments".
 








As a graduate, having 500 people placed is significantly more than the 100 not placed. I was one of the placed. I am sure they have support on here. Granted most are working not posting. I don't buy in to your "CEO" posting. If he was, I am sure he would have talked about the other 500 people trained that these same device manufactures such as Synthes (my employer) sent in for MSC sales training. That is enough proof as to the employers view don't you think? It is one thing to hire us graduates, it is entirely another when they hire from MSC and send their existing sales reps in for sales training.

I am lost on your continued "90-day comments".

You are a "graduate" in the sense that Elite/MSC people are probably all given the MSC course. Admit it, you work or own Elite/MSC.
 








Beware of how they word things. They try to confuse you by using "MSC" when arguing one point, then "Elite" or "AIMS" when arguing another. You practically have to be a lawyer to deal with them.

1) They claim that MSC has no BBB complaints and that only one person is responsible for trying to discredit them-- allegedly a competitive recruiter. Interestingly, the BBB lists AIMS as having an "F" rating. Here is a link proving their recruiting arm "AIMS" had at least 13 different people file BBB complaints:
http://www.bbb.org/denver/business-...ute-of-medical-sales-in-englewood-co-90110812

2) They claim that Elite does NOT charge students. True, however, Elite pushes recruits toward MSC which indeed charges them thousands.

3) They claim that Elite charges hiring companies “the least in the industry” at $2,000 per recruit. This, allegedly, is the reason why other recruiters are jealous of them.

The truth is, they made and probably continue to make most of their money from vulnerable students, not hiring companies. Elite could technically charge ZERO, just as AIMS charged zero.

Quote from AIMS brochure proving they once only charged students:

"...Zero Fee Recruiting. We make these graduates available to our corporate and distributor customers at no charge to make placement as easy and quick as possible."

(Keep in mind: since AIMS charged zero recruiting fees, then what financial incentive did they have to place MSC grads? NONE. I'm betting Elite is the same way, since they still make their real money from MSC.)

4) Within a 4 year period, they changed their recruiting arm’s name from Blue Chip, to AIMS, to Elite, allegedly "to make things less confusing." What could possibly be more confusing? The true reason must be something more illicit.

5) They claim to have placed varying numbers of MSC grads in top companies. The numbers they quote change from 360, to over 400, to almost 450, to almost 600--without any consistency. Also, who placed these graduates, Elite or MSC? It's all very convoluted and confusing.

It is up to you, the consumer, to interpret the actions of Elite-MSC. All I have written in Rip Off Report and elsewhere are purely my opinion, and my only agenda is to warn you of what I believe is an educational scam.
 








It is up to you, the consumer, to interpret the actions of Elite-MSC. All I have written in Rip Off Report and elsewhere are purely my opinion, and my only agenda is to warn you of what I believe is an educational scam.

In your more than 30 postings just in the last few days, you have claimed not to have attended the college but find it your duty to share your opinion? You have shared the same message including what I just read on your “10” postings on the ripoff report that you started and literally have posted on it almost every day.

You are acting as if you’re an expert what do you do sir? Do you have a job other than posting here?

Do you really believe with more than 30 postings in the last few days somebody doesn’t see right through you?

All of your postings never fight the fact that MSC education gets people jobs every day in this most difficult marketplace. Can you name any formula that works better?
 








In your more than 30 postings just in the last few days, you have claimed not to have attended the college but find it your duty to share your opinion? You have shared the same message including what I just read on your “10” postings on the ripoff report that you started and literally have posted on it almost every day.

You are acting as if you’re an expert what do you do sir? Do you have a job other than posting here?

Do you really believe with more than 30 postings in the last few days somebody doesn’t see right through you?

All of your postings never fight the fact that MSC education gets people jobs every day in this most difficult marketplace. Can you name any formula that works better?

Both sides are posting.
 
























You're welcome. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what they're doing, unfortunately, these guys are literally salesmen among salesmen.

Wait, the 500 or 600 placed grads are salespeople too!

Unlike you, we have jobs in our dream careers. You can find us everywhere. We are on LinkedIn, Facebook and most important, the stages collecting our awards as sales reps of the year.

You can find all of this supporting information at the MSC website.
 
















Wait, the 500 or 600 placed grads are salespeople too!

Unlike you, we have jobs in our dream careers. You can find us everywhere. We are on LinkedIn, Facebook and most important, the stages collecting our awards as sales reps of the year.

You can find all of this supporting information at the MSC website.

350? 400? 450? 500? 600? These Elite/MSC people love to conjure up numbers.

Sure you're in your dream career. Don't all sales people, including yourself, want to be in medical or pharmaceutical sales?