Medical Sales College. Is it for Real?

It is only useless to recruiters who are now out of business because of the Medical Sales College. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that every company would rather have an experienced sales rep with eight weeks of training for ZERO recruitment cost than an experienced sales rep with no training at $15,000 recruitment fee!!

Are you seriously wondering why recruiters would blog? I would't be surprised to see executives mandating hiring mangers to only hire from the college.

One problem with MSC is that it is non-selective. That means a guy under 5 feet tall could easily get into MSC provided, of course, he can pay MSC's gigantic tuition. Of course, everyone knows that no medical device company would ever hire a diminutive man regardless of credentials. Therefore, when MSC sells these types of jobseekers their program, MSC does so knowing that these people are just wasting their money.

Also, their claim that 8 weeks of training makes one a superior candidate is absurd. There are plenty of 2 year Stryker reps who still don't know their asses from their elbows. It takes years to learn the business.
 








One problem with MSC is that it is non-selective. That means a guy under 5 feet tall could easily get into MSC provided, of course, he can pay MSC's gigantic tuition. Of course, everyone knows that no medical device company would ever hire a diminutive man regardless of credentials. Therefore, when MSC sells these types of jobseekers their program, MSC does so knowing that these people are just wasting their money.

Also, their claim that 8 weeks of training makes one a superior candidate is absurd. There are plenty of 2 year Stryker reps who still don't know their asses from their elbows. It takes years to learn the business.

I don't think anyone is questioning it takes time to learn the business. Certainly some reps are in the field with no training or understanding of the job. That has more to do with device training only being a week long then throwing a useless guy in the field. The point the previous guy was making is absolutely correct. The training from my understanding is that the college teaches you before you are in the field. I believe his/her point was that it makes you a better viable candidate to get the job. There is no way to argue that point. More viable than an existing rep with years and relationships in the business? No, I don't think so... More than a B2B or non-device sales rep, Hell yes! Huge advantage both from experience and more important cost savings.
 








One problem with MSC is that it is non-selective. That means a guy under 5 feet tall could easily get into MSC provided, of course, he can pay MSC's gigantic tuition. Of course, everyone knows that no medical device company would ever hire a diminutive man regardless of credentials. Therefore, when MSC sells these types of jobseekers their program, MSC does so knowing that these people are just wasting their money.

Also, their claim that 8 weeks of training makes one a superior candidate is absurd. There are plenty of 2 year Stryker reps who still don't know their asses from their elbows. It takes years to learn the business.


How many guys under 5 feet tall have you seen at MSC?

Gigantic tuition? Isn't it like $5,000 for eight weeks? If they have the advertised 80% placement then $5,000 is a steal!!!!
 
















The "under 5 feet tall male" is just an example. $5,000 is a steal all right...for MSC.

I attended the college. This guy is crazy period!!! An unfilled agenda no doubt.

Instructors with years in the industry. World class surgeons that included surgical observation. The school itself was very professional and the location was prime real estate. Sawbones, labs and several corporate guests representing the top device manufactures. Eight weeks of intensive instruction. A recruitment team that was second to none! The most important part, all of my classmates are now selling med devices.

Just look at the college and the hundreds that attended and what you will notice... The overwhelming majority all are employed in the most difficult industry to enter!!!

That's a fact!!! Thanks MSC
 








I attended the college. This guy is crazy period!!! An unfilled agenda no doubt.

Instructors with years in the industry. World class surgeons that included surgical observation. The school itself was very professional and the location was prime real estate. Sawbones, labs and several corporate guests representing the top device manufactures. Eight weeks of intensive instruction. A recruitment team that was second to none! The most important part, all of my classmates are now selling med devices.

Just look at the college and the hundreds that attended and what you will notice... The overwhelming majority all are employed in the most difficult industry to enter!!!

That's a fact!!! Thanks MSC

More rhetoric from an obvious EliteMed-MSC person. No legitimate school posts fake testimonials so blatantly. Look at all that this author has written and notice the similarities in content. The only differences you'll see are he'll sometimes say he is about to attend MSC, or is attending MSC and about to interview with 2 companies. Let the buyer beware.
 








Just found this on another thread. Now this is impressive.
Has anyone talked with any of these people?

Lilly T.



From the moment I called the Medical Sales College I knew
that I had found the right place for me to bring together all of my education
and experiences into an incredibly exciting field. The curriculum at MSC is
very demanding and dynamic; exactly what I expected from my investment. I feel
confident in my ability to not only learn the technical aspects of any medical

device area, but more importantly I gained the confidence to succeed in
choosing this as a new career direction for me. The staff at MSC demand the
best of their students, which fosters their vision to improve medical sales
globally with a trained and credentialed sales force. I am proud to have been
part of a wonderful opportunity at MSC.



Amy W.



Words cannot express how thankful I am for Medical Sales
College. As a flight attendant with no sales experience, MSC not only taught me
invaluable sales experience but it also gave me the confidence to know that I
will be successful in this industry. The standard of excellence that is modeled
at every level of MSC inspires me to be excellent! I honestly think the

monetary expense and time away from home is a small price to pay for what I
learned. Thank you MSC for this life changing experience. I would recommend and
have recommended this program to any one who wants to enter into this field.



Brian B.



MSC offers fantastic course work and the guidance necessary
to break into the challenging field of Medical Device Sales. I interviewed with
three different companies and now have a position in this industry. These
opportunities took place because of the Medical Sales College. I highly
recommend this program.



James Mckissic



Before I went to AIMS, I had strong B2B sales experience but
I lacked the knowledge and experience needed to make my way into the medical
device industry. AIMS helped me bridge the gap! I’ve been working in the
industry for almost two years now. Going to AIMS was the best choice I could
have made for my career! Thanks to the whole AIMS team!



J.D. Cashman



There is no question that the medical device industry is one
of the toughest to break into. After trying for nearly two years I decided to
attend Medical Sales College. I can say with complete honesty that the
experience was well worth the investment. The two month education process was
challenging but extremely rewarding. Lectures are delivered with passion and
the classroom environment is always engaging. Upon graduating from the Spine
program I had several interviews with several great companies that I never
would have been able to meet with had I not attended Medical Sales College. If
you are passionate about working in this industry you should not hesitate to
apply. My experience was nothing short of incredible.




Tom Petrowski



I recently graduated from the Medical Sales College. The
education I received was top notch. They gave me the confidence and the skill
set which will allow me to be successful as I begin my Medical Device Sales Rep
position with Stryker!! I thank the Medical Sales College for helping me break
into this exciting industry!!



Tom Cregg



I
highly recommend attending the Medical Sales College. If you have experienced
the difficulties breaking into this industry due to not having the medical
background, then this is the place for you. I would not have been able to get
the interviews and obtain a position without it.



Joe Mascis



I tried to get a job in medical device sales for close to
two years before I found AIMS College. I had plenty of sales experience but no
prior medical sales experience. I could not get an interview with anybody.
After completing my 10-week program with AIMS, I was interviewing with two
medical devise companies and landed a job with Zimmer. I won’t lie, the
interview process was very tough but had it not been for the AIMS training on
my resume, I would have never been in considered. Once I started working I was
more knowledgeable and quicker to adapt to the environment then other new
hires. I still refer to things I learned at AIMS to this day.



John Bramhall



With out a doubt one of the best decisions I have ever made!
This 8 - week program changed my LIFE! Not only did I land a great job, I made
some new relationships that will last a lifetime! I'm so thankful for the
entire staff at The Medical Sales College!!



David Lavery



I just wanted to update you and the crew that I have moved
on to a new position with Synthes Trauma. I am very happy with the move and I
wanted to thank everyone at MSC for the advantages you provided to me by
attending the program. This was key in that the manager who hired me loved that
I was willing to take a risk and invest in myself by attending MSC. My new

position with Synthes included an awesome compensation package and I am very
grateful for this opportunity



Timothy Grace


I attended Medical Sales College in February/March of 2011
based on the referral of a previous graduate. This school was definitely above
and beyond my highest expectations. The hiring managers I interviewed with
couldn't believe the knowledge I attained in just eight weeks. I truly felt the
passion each and everyday that came from my instructors. I believe this

institution is making great changes this industry daily. Nonetheless I am
extremely happy with my new career and thank MSC for all the wonderful
knowledge I gained.




Brett Cleverdon



If you are looking to break into medical sales, and have no
prior experience in the industry, Medical Sales College is without a doubt the
way to go. There is such a huge learning curve in medical sales, which is why
employers are hesitant to hire people without any experience. The training by
the staff at MSC and the tools they provide will give you a HUGE competitive

edge over other job seekers. I am proud to say that I was hired on by DePuy,
one of the best and largest orthopaedic companies in the world, a week after
graduating. Not only that, I was hired into an award-winning distributorship

and given my own territory. After just 18 months in the field on my own, I am
close to a producing a million dollar territory that previously did not have any
representation. I have even won a few trauma sales contests and earned some
very nice bonuses with my short time in the field. I thank MSC for giving me
the opportunity to have what I feel is the greatest job in the world.



Amy Wamsley



I am writing to thank Medical Sales College for my success
in the medical device field. I work for Smith & Nephew orthopedics and use
what I learned from the school everyday. I wouldn't even be half as successful
if I hadn't attended. I say if you want to break into the medical device
industry you should absolutely start the medical sales college and GO! You will
never regret your decision. You will study your ass off, you will be stressed,
you will be happy, you will lose sleep but you will graduate with a tremendous
sense of accomplishment and hopefully a job. It is the best decision I ever
made!



Joel Smith



I am writing this letter to let others know about my
experience at Medical Sales College (MSC). I was looking for options getting
into Medical Device sales and found MSC as one of my top choices. It was a
difficult decision with a huge commitment of time, money, and sacrifice on my
part. The potential of getting into the industry held huge promise and a
phenomenal up side. MSC and its instructors gave me the foundation needed to be
successful in the Medical Device industry. I can say without any reservation
that I would not be where I am today without the instruction, guidance, and
direction that I received from MSC.



James Hallbeck



AIMS was the best decision that I ever made. The training
that I got there gave me a huge competitive advantage coming out of the
classroom into the field. I was a rookie rep with the confidence and knowledge
of a two year rep. Rob Mitchell was my instructor and really was precise in
giving our class enough information to truly be effective as a rep. Since
graduating AIMS, I have been working now for Wright Medical for 15 months.
During that time I took a territory basically doing $10K per month in business
and expanded it to $70K per month selling only foot and ankle products.
Currently in my distributorship I am the only rep running over 100% to quota.
Thanks again AIMS for giving me a new start to a successful career.



Jordan Workman



AIMS not only prepared me to land a career with one of the
top spine companies in the world, but also supplied me with a solid foundation
to hit the ground running right away. The Spine program, lead by the infamous
Mitch Seigars, helped accelerated my learning curve, and get to my very own
territory quicker. It was a great experience and I'd recommend it to anyone
looking to break into the industry. Thanks.



Ian McCormick



I have nothing but the best to say about this school. I
graduated a few years ago and have been happily working in the medical device
field. My thanks and appreciation lie in a few key individuals who helped me
get into the school, and eventually into the field. My primary study of focus
was not what I ended up actually doing but the school gave me a great
fundamental understanding of basic medical information I needed to know as well
as a good introduction to life as a rep. The most valuable piece of the puzzle
was after my schooling. The connections with device manufacturers and
distributors was priceless. I had tried time and again previously to get into
the industry but I needed someone on the inside. This school was it. They have

made many changes since I have been involved with the school but I know there
are a few individuals still with the company that make this a great opportunity
for people like myself



Josh Strom



Medical Sales College is worth every penny and more. Not
only did I receive invaluable training and knowledge that has put steps ahead
of the competition, but also their dedicated staff of recruiters helped me to
land in my dream career. Furthermore, the instruction and tutelage does not
stop when you leave the school, I can call Medical Sales College today and

anyone of the instructors would lend their expertise and knowledge to help a
former graduate because they want you to succeed that is priceless! My only
complaint regarding Medical Sales College is I wish the in-house portion in
Denver lasted longer because I was not ready to leave the relationships I had
formed with my peers and the Medical Sales College staff; I will always value
those relationships.



Scott K



If you are looking to find an opening into medical sales,
this is the absolute BEST way to do it. I worked hard and got the most out of
my training and it is paying off now that I am in the field.



Nicole Tittle



Medical Sales College provided me more than just a basic
understanding of the industry. After completion of the 8 week course, I had
product knowledge, selling strategies, and the confidence to communicate
effectively with surgeons. This program changed my life by enabling me to
succeed in an industry that had previously been difficult to break into. I have

been working for a while now, and the entire staff continues to provide support
and encouragement. I would HIGHLY recommend this program to anyone who is serious
and dedicated to doing whatever it takes to succeed in the medical device

world.





Nikki C.





Medical Sales College and the fantastic team at AIMS
provided me with the training and support I needed to land my first medical
device sales position. Top-notch sales training combined with medical and
procedural training to back it up. Be prepared to work just as hard as you will
in the field. I highly recommend this program!





Max Krupp



The Academy course was rigorous and filled with lots of
hands-on training. Not a day passed by where I did not feel overwhelmed by the
intensity and nature of the course. But with the difficulty came the reward. By
the end of the course, I felt extremely confident about my abilities, and was
able to obtain a sales position with DePuy Orthopaedics in under 3 weeks of
graduating. Since then, I have been able to speak with surgeons,
representatives, and other healthcare employees about orthopaedic surgery in a
way that I would never have before deemed possible. And while there is still a
plethora of topics, surgical techniques, and medical instruments to learn
about, I have been able to effectively shorten the learning curve of this

difficult career by the time and effort I put into the training I received at
MSC.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jan/13/medical-sales-school-greets-students/



It's too early to say if the school will be a lasting
success, but it's already attracted interest from companies.



"What this school will produce is what we and other
orthopedic companies are looking for," he said.



Bob Purcell, vice president of sales for Gainesville,
Fla.-based Exactech.



Also touring the facility were Phil Mercier and Michael
Peters, who run the orthopedic sales rep training academy for medical device
maker Smith & Nephew.



"We're looking to explore how it could better train
someone coming into our program," Peters said.



New center to train medical device sales representatives


By Daniel Connolly



There's a strong need for better-trained medical device
sales representatives, said Albert Dacosta, a regional sales manager for Wright
who has worked closely with Rogers.



"I hire somebody new, and I will spend the first five
months, four months with somebody teaching them all the things they need to
know that they would never read in a book," Dacosta said. Rogers' school
could shorten the process, he said.



http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/13/tough-sell/



Just ask William Warrender Jr., senior vice president of
global sales for Austin-based Ascension Orthopedics, how tough it is to find an
orthopedic sales rep -- a position not only responsible for selling artificial
knees and hips to surgeons, but also required to accompany them to the
operating room as a hands-off aide.



Sales people are learning not only how to sell orthopedic
devices, but also how the devices function in classes taught by Ascension
Orthopedics. Chip Tubbs (left) of Atlanta and Matt Thompson of Phoenix get
hands-on experience with devices.



Orthopedic sales reps are in high demand, and Ascension
Orthopedics offers an extensive education in the devices. William F. Warrender
Jr., senior vice president of global sales for Ascension, talks with students.



"Oh, heck yes," said Warrender, who
has had to fire 50 percent of his sales team.



Too often good sales reps already have jobs and can't be
lured away due to noncompete contracts.



Moreover, companies take big risks hiring outside the
industry, usually waiting a year before new hires show fruit.



That's why Warrender isn't taking any chances this time.



He plans to hire his next 10 sales reps from this program.




In researching the school, I would believe THESE ACTUAL people who attended the program. Real names, real students and real responses from those that have attended.
 








In researching the school, I would believe THESE ACTUAL people who attended the program. Real names, real students and real responses from those that have attended.

So why then does EliteMed continue to post fake job ads all over Career Builder, Monster, etc.? Jobseekers really can't trust EliteMed-MSC.
 
















EliteMed-MSC insights:

1) Some affiliated distributors interview a certain number of MSC grads. Of course, they cannot possibly hire every grad interviewed. Regardless, EliteMed-MSC takes credit for getting said grads interviews. I suspect affiliated distributors are somehow compensated for conducting the interviews.

2) MSC grads identified by MSC to be solid candidates are pitched to potential hiring companies. Although EliteMed claims to charge companies $2,000 per experienced rep, MSC makes no such claim, so places said grads for free just like AIMS Recruiting did in the past.

I suspect that affiliated distributors never pay $2,000 for MSC grads.

Like AIMS Recruiting, EliteMed doesn't really make money by recruiting for companies. Instead, it makes money by recruiting students for MSC.

3) The vast majority of MSC grads are not placed. After MSC, they continue to not only be unemployed, but also $10,000 poorer.
 








EliteMed-MSC insights:

1) Some affiliated distributors interview a certain number of MSC grads. Of course, they cannot possibly hire every grad interviewed. Regardless, EliteMed-MSC takes credit for getting said grads interviews. I suspect affiliated distributors are somehow compensated for conducting the interviews.

2) MSC grads identified by MSC to be solid candidates are pitched to potential hiring companies. Although EliteMed claims to charge companies $2,000 per experienced rep, MSC makes no such claim, so places said grads for free just like AIMS Recruiting did in the past.

I suspect that affiliated distributors never pay $2,000 for MSC grads.

Like AIMS Recruiting, EliteMed doesn't really make money by recruiting for companies. Instead, it makes money by recruiting students for MSC.

3) The vast majority of MSC grads are not placed. After MSC, they continue to not only be unemployed, but also $10,000 poorer.



Interesting that you are the only one saying this. You said that you didn't even go to the college right?

Maybe that's because the graduates are all working which would explain the 500 placements while you are on here defending your agenda.

I haven't seen a single name of a MSC grad complaining so if you want any credibility, tell us who you are and the rest of these upset, unplaced graduates!!! Oh that's right, they have jobs !
 








Interesting that you are the only one saying this. You said that you didn't even go to the college right?

Maybe that's because the graduates are all working which would explain the 500 placements while you are on here defending your agenda.

I haven't seen a single name of a MSC grad complaining so if you want any credibility, tell us who you are and the rest of these upset, unplaced graduates!!! Oh that's right, they have jobs !

That guy is right. How come your Elite arm advertises jobs that don't exist? I recently saw several Elite posted ads in my area, yet I know none of the device companies are hiring. I think your whole school and business is suspicious.
 








That guy is right. How come your Elite arm advertises jobs that don't exist? I recently saw several Elite posted ads in my area, yet I know none of the device companies are hiring. I think your whole school and business is suspicious.

Every device company is always hiring. If you can bring business, they always have a spot. Nobody would ever have information or knowledge on openings. Most are not advertised by name because they are replacing ineffective reps. It just goes to show how uninformed people are on this thread. This guy is truly an idiot and most likely has zero knowledge of this industry.
 








Every device company is always hiring. If you can bring business, they always have a spot. Nobody would ever have information or knowledge on openings. Most are not advertised by name because they are replacing ineffective reps. It just goes to show how uninformed people are on this thread. This guy is truly an idiot and most likely has zero knowledge of this industry.

Hundreds of jobs posted by Elite? No way.
 








Every device company is always hiring. If you can bring business, they always have a spot. Nobody would ever have information or knowledge on openings. Most are not advertised by name because they are replacing ineffective reps. It just goes to show how uninformed people are on this thread. This guy is truly an idiot and most likely has zero knowledge of this industry.

"Every" is a strong word. This statement by EliteMed-MSC is inaccurate.
 








I have never heard of a legitimate school that posts the names and employers of its grads.

Also, I'm curious why MSC refuses to tell us what percentage of their graduates do not find medical sales jobs. The 81% placement number they keep touting is 81% unsubstantiated.
 
























500 people that have a job through MSC verified. LinkedIn MSC and look.

1 person saying MSC doesn't work.

You decide.

Sorry agenda boy!!! 500 to 1 that MSC wins on this.

So how many didn't get jobs? 1,000? 2,000? Why don't you just tell us IN WRITING on your website? Oh right, MSC would lose business.

Why do you post hundreds of bogus job ads on career boards? People in the business know there aren't hundreds of open positions. In fact EliteMed lists more positions than actually exist in the industry as a whole. That's because EliteMed's main mission is to ensnare resumes to call on and pitch MSC.

The reasoning EliteMed-MSC gives for their fake job ads is that "every company is always hiring." In other words, they want us to believe that all the seasoned reps at Stryker, Depuy, Zimmer, etc. could easily be replaced by ex-carpet salesmen with 8 weeks of MSC training. This is a fallacy they want the Attorney General to believe.
 








So how many didn't get jobs? 1,000? 2,000? Why don't you just tell us IN WRITING on your website? Oh right, MSC would lose business.

Why do you post hundreds of bogus job ads on career boards? People in the business know there aren't hundreds of open positions. In fact EliteMed lists more positions than actually exist in the industry as a whole. That's because EliteMed's main mission is to ensnare resumes to call on and pitch MSC.

The reasoning EliteMed-MSC gives for their fake job ads is that "every company is always hiring." In other words, they want us to believe that all the seasoned reps at Stryker, Depuy, Zimmer, etc. could easily be replaced by ex-carpet salesmen with 8 weeks of MSC training. This is a fallacy they want the Attorney General to believe.



If 1,000 or 2,000 that didn't get jobs, wouldn't someone other than just yourself be on here? Why would these "thousands" not complain if they attended MSC? According to the BBB, MSC has not a single complaint!

So if MSC or Elite has 200 jobs it is more than the industry? How is it that MedReps has 9,000 open jobs on it right now?

You are a LOSER!