Lederle Labs: any reps from the Cyanamid days still around?

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Just to let you know, I left the industry to work in the legal field because my degree is in criminal law. I did not go on to law school because I paid for my college myself 100% and back then there was a limit to student loan money. In fact the reason I was given the pharmeceutical job was because my manager informed me that out of all the applicants I was the only one who had shown the initiative to work four jobs while putting myself through a private college. So hacking it was easy, in fact to easy. Once you had the information down you didn't need to use your brain and think about anything. In addition, I made a lot of money in pharmaceuticals and then six figures in medical sales.
As for ambulance chasing, that refers to lawyers who do civil law. My husband does not practice civil law. Working for a pharmeceutical company you have to follow their rules whether they are right or wrong or ethical for that matter. My husband is in private practice which means he chooses his clients and the cases he takes. Yes, being an attorney is a stellar occupation depending on your ethics.
I do have a right to voice my opinion as I did work in the industry and saw things first hand. Knowing that pharmecutical companies are providing the FDA with studies that have been doctored or side effect results left out so a drug could be approved or selling off label are not reasons to justify paying your mortgage. You know the things I said are correct and happen everyday in the pharmaceutical industry. Closing down streets in New Orleans so that pharmaceutical sales reps could parade down a street with a band to an aquarium so reps could have an out of this world buffet all to launch a drug. Just think if that money was put into reducing the price of that drug to the consumer when it hit the street or the money was put towards other research. It is hard to believe anyone could have walked down that street in New Orleans and not felt like an idiot. My God you are a pharmaceutical sales rep not an astronaut coming back from a mission.
I left the pharmaceutical industry hoping that the medical field would be different. It was more mentally demanding working with surgeons in the OR but they used the same practices as in the pharmeceutical industry. I hacked it because I increased my knowledge in the medical field by working with surgeons in the OR and then moving into the legal field and ascertaining knowlege of the law. I can speak at ease with a surgeon or a judge about either of their occupations. I say I hacked it and more. In closing you know why God made pharmaceutical reps? So lawyers wouldn't have to be at the end of the social scale.
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How's that "Hope and Change" working out for you? It is obvious you are quite the "Liberal"! If times were so tough, you would not have gone to a private college but a community college or state college. If you were so smart your private college would have been paid for through scholarships. Give me a break and get off the pedestal.
 












I remember when Wyeth bought Lederle.

The Lederle stock shot up like $40 something dollars overnight on the anouncement!
Lederle reps 401k plans and current stock options went through the roof!

To add insult to Wyeth employees Lederle reps were given big fat ass chunks of stock options while the existing Wyeth folks got dick!

Wyeth was a God send to Lederle. They were selling shit, got bought out and made out like bandits.

Oh yeah, did I mention that that were ZERO layoffs for any Lederle people.

Oh to be sooooo mistreated!
 




Anonymous said:
I remember when Wyeth bought Lederle.

The Lederle stock shot up like $40 something dollars overnight on the anouncement!
Lederle reps 401k plans and current stock options went through the roof!

To add insult to Wyeth employees Lederle reps were given big fat ass chunks of stock options while the existing Wyeth folks got dick!

Wyeth was a God send to Lederle. They were selling shit, got bought out and made out like bandits.

Oh yeah, did I mention that that were ZERO layoffs for any Lederle people.

Oh to be sooooo mistreated!
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what you forgot to mention (dumbass) is that many lederle reps were forced to take jobs in other states because management couldnt read a map !! Lederle might have saved your butt!!!
 








Anonymous said:
what you forgot to mention (dumbass) is that many lederle reps were forced to take jobs in other states because management couldnt read a map !! Lederle might have saved your butt!!!
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Please! Lederle didn't save shit!

That brought a bunch of shit "me to" drugs to the table. Ziac, give me a fucking break!

Lederle reps should have been on their knees thanking God for the buy out.

Who gives a shit if a couple were asked to change positions. They ALL kept their damn jobs.

Love how you ingored the fact that they got fat on the stock jump and were given stock options when the Wyeth people got jack shit!

What a bunch of whiney little bitches Lederle was!
 




Anonymous said:
Please! Lederle didn't save shit!

That brought a bunch of shit "me to" drugs to the table. Ziac, give me a fucking break!

Lederle reps should have been on their knees thanking God for the buy out.

Who gives a shit if a couple were asked to change positions. They ALL kept their damn jobs.

Love how you ingored the fact that they got fat on the stock jump and were given stock options when the Wyeth people got jack shit!

What a bunch of whiney little bitches Lederle was!
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Let me tell you something you misinformed piece of shit. Lederle SAVED wyeth for the kind Lederle people brought us Prevnar. Without this vaccine, wyeth would have been buried years ago. If not for Lederle, Pfizer would have no interest in WYE and we would have died on the vine. This is FACT. God Bless Lederle.
 
























Anonymous said:
I remember the Suprax launch at the Anatole in Dallas. That was my first launch meeting in the pharmaceutical industry. I was blown away by the entertainment, the excitement, and the potential bonus dollars!

I could not believe I had gotten this lucky to be hired into the pharmaceutical industry. My, how times have changed.

Remember when Lederle and every other company had one rep per territory? That was a great job! Doctors only saw 2 or three reps in a week. They enjoyed seeing us and giving us time to talk about our products. All of our products. I had every product that Lederle sold in my bag.

I could use any reprint I wanted from any journal. The Doctors really thought of us as consultants. Sales force expansion and the lawyers not allowing us to talk about any new info from journals has absolutely destroyed this job.

Why am I still here? The paycheck......................sad, but true.
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I also remeber the Suprax launch at the Anatole. What I remember, though, was meeting the porn star Ginger Lynn at the hotel. I don't know if anyone else remembers, but she was also staying there that week. She was doing a show somewhere in Dallas. This was at the height of her porn career. Anyway, she was there with this HUGE black dude and another girl named Sandy. I rode up the elevator with them and she told me who she was and we talked for a bit. Anyway, the next day I ran into them again and we had a few drinks at the bar. She invited me back to her room and let me watch her and the other girl get it on!!!!!! Unbelievable. I couldn't join them unfortunately, but they let me watch. I couldn't even whip it out or anything. They were both weird about that. Oh well, I did go back to my room and rub one off after that. That was the greatest launch meeting I ever went to.
 




Anonymous said:
I also remeber the Suprax launch at the Anatole. What I remember, though, was meeting the porn star Ginger Lynn at the hotel. I don't know if anyone else remembers, but she was also staying there that week. She was doing a show somewhere in Dallas. This was at the height of her porn career. Anyway, she was there with this HUGE black dude and another girl named Sandy. I rode up the elevator with them and she told me who she was and we talked for a bit. Anyway, the next day I ran into them again and we had a few drinks at the bar. She invited me back to her room and let me watch her and the other girl get it on!!!!!! Unbelievable. I couldn't join them unfortunately, but they let me watch. I couldn't even whip it out or anything. They were both weird about that. Oh well, I did go back to my room and rub one off after that. That was the greatest launch meeting I ever went to.[/QUOTE

That was around 1988 or 1989?
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Get off this thread you pathetic losers!!

You're half the problem with this company -- you were overpaid and now Wyeth/Pfizer is still paying out your pensions and your medical care...................get lost already
 












It is completely ridiculous for any Wyeth of Pfizer, sample droppers or caterers, to even insinuate Lederle reps couldn't flat out sell.

I came over from lederle,after the AHP aquisition, won 2 golden circles in 3 years, then moved on to a more challenging career.

CR Bard, urology division, for 4 years, more commission money,however, not much more challenging than pharma sales.

have been with Hill-Rom for 8 years, 100% commission job. This seperates the real deals from the pretenders. I have never been happier or had as much job satisfaction.

If these big pharma really wanted to hire real sales people, they would restrucuture pay to 40% base and 60% commission. That would seperate the real sales people from the sample droppers.

The excuses would disappear, the sales force would find a way to get the deal done or their lack of pay would weed out the weak or non producers. No need for micro-management or formal terminations. The weak would leave on their own.

Big pharma doesn't possess the guts to implement that type of program.
 




Old Lederle rep and 2x golden oval winner here as well. I have a 100 percent commission job and find the work quite satisfying. I see positive turns in the road every few weeks, my hard pressed efforts really do pay off.

Commission will never be a part of the pharma we know because of strict rules and litigation. Sales in pharma is truly dead and every rep in the mix knows it. That's why these poor people are so frustrated and angered.
 




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