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You're quite an impressive person. Maybe someday I can become a "real" drug rep once again. Would sure like to be just like you.
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You need to give up your dream of becoming a real rep again. Once you work for a CSO you are black listed. The world needs has beens and also rans and you fit those roles nicely porky.
 












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Being a rep is no dream. It's a nightmare. You're an idiot
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Not when you are working at a big pharma like me, many years of experience, rich resume and have hit high Marks!!! I say I am making big smackers!!! Yes I say that because my base Salary and bonus is over $130K a year and my CSO rep makes half that and has to work Twice as hard. Yes we big pharma pros are true Royalty sitting on our large salaries and Prestigious positions. We are elite. CSO reps are just humps!!! Deal with it or meet your Firing officer for a poor outcome!!! You will never have my Lifestyle or rich resume!!!

You poorly dressed CSO reps clad in polyester suits and driving 15 year old cars with High mileage while we true reps dine at 5 star establishments and enjoy our 5 weeks vacation in world class considered world locations!!!
 






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Not when you are working at a big pharma like me, many years of experience, rich resume and have hit high Marks!!! I say I am making big smackers!!! Yes I say that because my base Salary and bonus is over $130K a year and my CSO rep makes half that and has to work Twice as hard. Yes we big pharma pros are true Royalty sitting on our large salaries and Prestigious positions. We are elite. CSO reps are just humps!!! Deal with it or meet your Firing officer for a poor outcome!!! You will never have my Lifestyle or rich resume!!!

You poorly dressed CSO reps clad in polyester suits and driving 15 year old cars with High mileage while we true reps dine at 5 star establishments and enjoy our 5 weeks vacation in world class considered world locations!!!
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My God are you a tool
 












CSO manager's salary and bonus equals a big pharma rep salary and bonus. CSO high point rep salary and bonus is like a newbie rep (age 25, no experience) in the big pharma world....

Yep, no lightbulb moment needed to know why cso is not a dream job!
 






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Not when you are working at a big pharma like me, many years of experience, rich resume and have hit high Marks!!! I say I am making big smackers!!! Yes I say that because my base Salary and bonus is over $130K a year and my CSO rep makes half that and has to work Twice as hard. Yes we big pharma pros are true Royalty sitting on our large salaries and Prestigious positions. We are elite. CSO reps are just humps!!! Deal with it or meet your Firing officer for a poor outcome!!! You will never have my Lifestyle or rich resume!!!

You poorly dressed CSO reps clad in polyester suits and driving 15 year old cars with High mileage while we true reps dine at 5 star establishments and enjoy our 5 weeks vacation in world class considered world locations!!!
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Poor results? Reps have less effect than managers and big wigs care to admit.

Got coverage, ok, helps. Got new superstar product with 4 star results, 4 star coverage! Let's talk.
 












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Not when you are working at a big pharma like me, many years of experience, rich resume and have hit high Marks!!! I say I am making big smackers!!! Yes I say that because my base Salary and bonus is over $130K a year and my CSO rep makes half that and has to work Twice as hard. Yes we big pharma pros are true Royalty sitting on our large salaries and Prestigious positions. We are elite. CSO reps are just humps!!! Deal with it or meet your Firing officer for a poor outcome!!! You will never have my Lifestyle or rich resume!!!

You poorly dressed CSO reps clad in polyester suits and driving 15 year old cars with High mileage while we true reps dine at 5 star establishments and enjoy our 5 weeks vacation in world class considered world locations!!!
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I had your resume and income before accepting this contract as a stop over.

You are going to find out that replacing your "smackers" is not a easy as you probably assume it to be.

See you in CSO line
 






Anonymous said:
I had your resume and income before accepting this contract as a stop over.

You are going to find out that replacing your "smackers" is not a easy as you probably assume it to be.

See you in CSO line
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Why do you assume everyone is as big a loser as you are? I have been down sized twice and had no problem getting a new job with a real pharma company in just a few weeks. It actually was a windfall for me because I got 6 months severance from one job and 4 months from the other so I was getting double pay. Just because you are not marketable and don't have the skills to get great jobs does not mean we all are that way, obviously.
 






Anonymous said:
Why do you assume everyone is as big a loser as you are? I have been down sized twice and had no problem getting a new job with a real pharma company in just a few weeks. It actually was a windfall for me because I got 6 months severance from one job and 4 months from the other so I was getting double pay. Just because you are not marketable and don't have the skills to get great jobs does not mean we all are that way, obviously.
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If you are making $130K then I absolutely do not believe you (unless your downsizings were MANY years ago)
Big Pharma is not paying that kind of money anymore for a new hire. You're full of it.
 






Anonymous said:
If you are making $130K then I absolutely do not believe you (unless your downsizings were MANY years ago)
Big Pharma is not paying that kind of money anymore for a new hire. You're full of it.
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100% Agree. About a 50% reduction in sales related job jobs over the last 5 years. Big competition and young kids with the least salary requirements are getting the jobs. Take a look at requirements and salaries.

The jobs that previously required 5-10 years of experience are hiring 1-2 or any B2B and low end salaries (40s-60s) with hunger oriented bonus.
 






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There was this one guy on a contract that they used to basically fire reps the client disliked. He was quite the piece of work. He had a bad attitude about not being where he used to be regarding his position, frowned chronically, bitter, etc. And he basically projected these negative traits upon reps as the reasoning to let them go. As far as being lazy...absolutely he was but bitter mostly.
 


















Anonymous said:
If you are making $130K then I absolutely do not believe you (unless your downsizings were MANY years ago)
Big Pharma is not paying that kind of money anymore for a new hire. You're full of it.
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Believe it or not everyone remains a primary care sample dropper for our entire careers. Some of us with more intelligence than you and your CSO brothers are in specialty where the pay is far better and we have many opportunities because we actually have a real skill. I know that this is a startling bit of knowledge to someone like you but it is a reality, just not in your little primary care sample dropper CSO world.
 






Anonymous said:
Believe it or not everyone remains a primary care sample dropper for our entire careers. Some of us with more intelligence than you and your CSO brothers are in specialty where the pay is far better and we have many opportunities because we actually have a real skill. I know that this is a startling bit of knowledge to someone like you but it is a reality, just not in your little primary care sample dropper CSO world.
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What a crock!

In CSO "specialty" you are paid like a peon, PC rep. Have 10 years experience in big pharma speciality and it still makes for zero impact on the wallet...
 






Anonymous said:
What a crock!

In CSO "specialty" you are paid like a peon, PC rep. Have 10 years experience in big pharma speciality and it still makes for zero impact on the wallet...
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true, any beginner specialty rep in direct is churning at least 90 on base at 5 years. its a joke to talk about specialty reps making 75 unless they have no work experience. a temporary cso job, what else,
 






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