Layoffs due to Coronavirus

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anonymous said:
That was not the point, dumb ass. It was stated that Amgen is taking away vehicles, which is not true. You're a contract rep for a reason. If you spent less time on CP, you'd have a real job.
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You are a real winner. You don't even work here but spend time on this board. You are living your best life. Congrats.
 












anonymous said:
We are about to enter December which has the highest number of historical lay offs. Anyone have any info for what might be coming?
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I remember working for CSO's over the years and this was the time of year when the sales force was especially concerned about job security and the future of the contract. Typically rumors abounded this time of year. And, unfortunately, much of the time the rumors turned about to be true and the contract was terminated. I've had the experience of being unemployed at the holidays several times, then going into the new year with no job and enduring a sometimes brutal job search that lasted months. But, it's not just contract, many manufacturer's do lay-offs at end of year. 400 Pfizer reps will be done at end of year. Novo Nordisk had a call last Thursday and announced the lay-off of a significant percentage of their sales force, including many managers that had been with the company for years. The Amarin sales force is about to be cut (not announced yet) due to losing a court ruling so that companies can launch generic versions of their only product - in fact, a generic has already been launched. Tricida, a start-up company in the renal space, had the FDA rule against approval of their drug and now they'll be cutting the sales force comprised of experienced renal reps hired last summer who never had the opportunity to hit the field. The list goes on. Well-paid hospital reps and specialty reps at many companies are nervous because they are highly compensated for their roles, but access to their customers is extremely limited now - they're wondering how they can justify their jobs and if they will be cut. The industry has been shrinking for years and the response to the Wu Flu has only accelerated the trend. Any rep who thinks they are secure is either delusional or in denial. Reps need to think about their jobs as temporary (a few years at best for most) and have a back up plan.
 




anonymous said:
I remember working for CSO's over the years and this was the time of year when the sales force was especially concerned about job security and the future of the contract. Typically rumors abounded this time of year. And, unfortunately, much of the time the rumors turned about to be true and the contract was terminated. I've had the experience of being unemployed at the holidays several times, then going into the new year with no job and enduring a sometimes brutal job search that lasted months. But, it's not just contract, many manufacturer's do lay-offs at end of year. 400 Pfizer reps will be done at end of year. Novo Nordisk had a call last Thursday and announced the lay-off of a significant percentage of their sales force, including many managers that had been with the company for years. The Amarin sales force is about to be cut (not announced yet) due to losing a court ruling so that companies can launch generic versions of their only product - in fact, a generic has already been launched. Tricida, a start-up company in the renal space, had the FDA rule against approval of their drug and now they'll be cutting the sales force comprised of experienced renal reps hired last summer who never had the opportunity to hit the field. The list goes on. Well-paid hospital reps and specialty reps at many companies are nervous because they are highly compensated for their roles, but access to their customers is extremely limited now - they're wondering how they can justify their jobs and if they will be cut. The industry has been shrinking for years and the response to the Wu Flu has only accelerated the trend. Any rep who thinks they are secure is either delusional or in denial. Reps need to think about their jobs as temporary (a few years at best for most) and have a back up plan.
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Haven’t heard about Amarin Layoffs. Is that rumored or guaranteed? I am aware of the court ruling however.
 




The amarin layoffs will be early next year once the generic hits the shelves. Everyone in this industry is at risk as the virus will cause more change in the next 20 months than the previous 20 years. There will always be reps, but significantly less than there are today. Access was already a house of cards before the virus with us logging a bunch of fake calls. The new normal of this hybrid world might have 40% access that existed before covid
 




You can go onto every cafe Pharma board for a major company and see all the reps in Pharma knows the sales force needs to be downsized. Everyone agrees it’s needed. Before the virus we already had to enter false calls and pretend to be busy to justify the job. The access was already terrible and this made it much worse. Without a lunch appointment there won’t be much to do except try to get a few signatures on the iPad to pretend to be busy. Our best bet is to keep looking for a way out, but the laziness of only working a couple days per week is the addiction that keeps us wanting to stay in this industry until the very end.
 




Syneos must get paid every time I enter a call on my iPad as my manager keeps telling us to enter calls and we can keep our jobs. My manager doesn’t really care if I am able to reach a provider as long as we keep entering calls. It’s seems unethical to get paid for doing this, but it’s called job preservation. The advice from management is the advice I give to you. You have NOTHING to lose by entering in fake calls. If you don’t enter fake calls we will get cut from inactivity. Therefore, enter the calls or quit.
 




anonymous said:
Syneos must get paid every time I enter a call on my iPad as my manager keeps telling us to enter calls and we can keep our jobs. My manager doesn’t really care if I am able to reach a provider as long as we keep entering calls. It’s seems unethical to get paid for doing this, but it’s called job preservation. The advice from management is the advice I give to you. You have NOTHING to lose by entering in fake calls. If you don’t enter fake calls we will get cut from inactivity. Therefore, enter the calls or quit.
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A contract is signed between a contract Pharma and manufacturer for a certain amount of calls, reach/frequency metrics etc. If breached, then contract is broken. $$$
 




If this is true then it makes sense why we are encouraged to enter calls regardless if they occurred. If not, we would be in default of the contract and unemployed. It’s crazy that they pay us to enter this stuff on an iPad even though it’s not accurate. Syneos is the ultimate sales man as they convinced big Pharma to pay them money to have people enter fake calls on an iPad.
 




anonymous said:
If this is true then it makes sense why we are encouraged to enter calls regardless if they occurred. If not, we would be in default of the contract and unemployed. It’s crazy that they pay us to enter this stuff on an iPad even though it’s not accurate. Syneos is the ultimate sales man as they convinced big Pharma to pay them money to have people enter fake calls on an iPad.
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How about the GSK contract ending at end of year... it’s about time! Taking credit and sitting at home... doing their “virtual “ lunches!

Beware Beware Beware of the Syneous rep who likes o talk to managers... tell them other reps are not making real calls.. already got reps fired! From this contract and different contracts
Watch your backs ladies and gentlemen!
 




anonymous said:
I remember working for CSO's over the years and this was the time of year when the sales force was especially concerned about job security and the future of the contract. Typically rumors abounded this time of year. And, unfortunately, much of the time the rumors turned about to be true and the contract was terminated. I've had the experience of being unemployed at the holidays several times, then going into the new year with no job and enduring a sometimes brutal job search that lasted months. But, it's not just contract, many manufacturer's do lay-offs at end of year. 400 Pfizer reps will be done at end of year. Novo Nordisk had a call last Thursday and announced the lay-off of a significant percentage of their sales force, including many managers that had been with the company for years. The Amarin sales force is about to be cut (not announced yet) due to losing a court ruling so that companies can launch generic versions of their only product - in fact, a generic has already been launched. Tricida, a start-up company in the renal space, had the FDA rule against approval of their drug and now they'll be cutting the sales force comprised of experienced renal reps hired last summer who never had the opportunity to hit the field. The list goes on. Well-paid hospital reps and specialty reps at many companies are nervous because they are highly compensated for their roles, but access to their customers is extremely limited now - they're wondering how they can justify their jobs and if they will be cut. The industry has been shrinking for years and the response to the Wu Flu has only accelerated the trend. Any rep who thinks they are secure is either delusional or in denial. Reps need to think about their jobs as temporary (a few years at best for most) and have a back up plan.
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anonymous said:
I remember working for CSO's over the years and this was the time of year when the sales force was especially concerned about job security and the future of the contract. Typically rumors abounded this time of year. And, unfortunately, much of the time the rumors turned about to be true and the contract was terminated. I've had the experience of being unemployed at the holidays several times, then going into the new year with no job and enduring a sometimes brutal job search that lasted months. But, it's not just contract, many manufacturer's do lay-offs at end of year. 400 Pfizer reps will be done at end of year. Novo Nordisk had a call last Thursday and announced the lay-off of a significant percentage of their sales force, including many managers that had been with the company for years. The Amarin sales force is about to be cut (not announced yet) due to losing a court ruling so that companies can launch generic versions of their only product - in fact, a generic has already been launched. Tricida, a start-up company in the renal space, had the FDA rule against approval of their drug and now they'll be cutting the sales force comprised of experienced renal reps hired last summer who never had the opportunity to hit the field. The list goes on. Well-paid hospital reps and specialty reps at many companies are nervous because they are highly compensated for their roles, but access to their customers is extremely limited now - they're wondering how they can justify their jobs and if they will be cut. The industry has been shrinking for years and the response to the Wu Flu has only accelerated the trend. Any rep who thinks they are secure is either delusional or in denial. Reps need to think about their jobs as temporary (a few years at best for most) and have a back up plan.
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Where are you getting the information about Amarin?
 




anonymous said:
I remember working for CSO's over the years and this was the time of year when the sales force was especially concerned about job security and the future of the contract. Typically rumors abounded this time of year. And, unfortunately, much of the time the rumors turned about to be true and the contract was terminated. I've had the experience of being unemployed at the holidays several times, then going into the new year with no job and enduring a sometimes brutal job search that lasted months. But, it's not just contract, many manufacturer's do lay-offs at end of year. 400 Pfizer reps will be done at end of year. Novo Nordisk had a call last Thursday and announced the lay-off of a significant percentage of their sales force, including many managers that had been with the company for years. The Amarin sales force is about to be cut (not announced yet) due to losing a court ruling so that companies can launch generic versions of their only product - in fact, a generic has already been launched. Tricida, a start-up company in the renal space, had the FDA rule against approval of their drug and now they'll be cutting the sales force comprised of experienced renal reps hired last summer who never had the opportunity to hit the field. The list goes on. Well-paid hospital reps and specialty reps at many companies are nervous because they are highly compensated for their roles, but access to their customers is extremely limited now - they're wondering how they can justify their jobs and if they will be cut. The industry has been shrinking for years and the response to the Wu Flu has only accelerated the trend. Any rep who thinks they are secure is either delusional or in denial. Reps need to think about their jobs as temporary (a few years at best for most) and have a back up plan.
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Layoffs.

Pharma's way of wishing you a " Merry Christmas "?
 








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