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I'm starting this thread to collect what has been heard or confirmed for those of us trying to have better understanding.
Here is what I know: some managers will be let go and districts will be bigger, metropolitan areas with 4+ reps will see some cuts, only full districts really need to worry. Change will likely happen soon hence the reason we have no samples and our sample audits are happening now. Vesneo isn't coming until at least April of next year and it will probably result in hiring. If you are displaced you may have a place in another division of Valeant until the Vesneo launch then you may have the opportunity to go back to eye care.

Rumors: Prolensa and Lotemax will be put together. Makes sense, mirrors Alcon, they are now established products so no need for two teams. Whoever is the new Prolensa/Lotemax rep will easily be able to roll out sub-micron loteprednol. Back in the day when it was just B & L and ISTA was a separate company there was a team of anti-infective reps, they had huge territories. There will probably be a team similar to that which will also cover glaucoma. Then once Vesneo is launched they will likely split those territories into smaller ones and hire more people. It makes sense. So what does that mean for you? Since they will likely be combining Prolensa with Lotemax that would cut the sales force into half. Of the leftover reps, most likely some of them will be the new anti-infective/glaucoma reps with huge territories, leading to some cuts of whoever is left over. This will likely be 10-15% cuts. Everyone's territories will probably look different and you will have different products but most will be safe. Just one per metropolitan area really needs to worry. Again all rumor! I'm not a manager just trying to help those seeking answers.
 






I'm starting this thread to collect what has been heard or confirmed for those of us trying to have better understanding.
Here is what I know: some managers will be let go and districts will be bigger, metropolitan areas with 4+ reps will see some cuts, only full districts really need to worry. Change will likely happen soon hence the reason we have no samples and our sample audits are happening now. Vesneo isn't coming until at least April of next year and it will probably result in hiring. If you are displaced you may have a place in another division of Valeant until the Vesneo launch then you may have the opportunity to go back to eye care.

Rumors: Prolensa and Lotemax will be put together. Makes sense, mirrors Alcon, they are now established products so no need for two teams. Whoever is the new Prolensa/Lotemax rep will easily be able to roll out sub-micron loteprednol. Back in the day when it was just B & L and ISTA was a separate company there was a team of anti-infective reps, they had huge territories. There will probably be a team similar to that which will also cover glaucoma. Then once Vesneo is launched they will likely split those territories into smaller ones and hire more people. It makes sense. So what does that mean for you? Since they will likely be combining Prolensa with Lotemax that would cut the sales force into half. Of the leftover reps, most likely some of them will be the new anti-infective/glaucoma reps with huge territories, leading to some cuts of whoever is left over. This will likely be 10-15% cuts. Everyone's territories will probably look different and you will have different products but most will be safe. Just one per metropolitan area really needs to worry. Again all rumor! I'm not a manager just trying to help those seeking answers.

"Just one per metropolitan area really needs to worry." If there are 4+ reps in a metro area, that would typically mean 2 white/2 blue, but you state 'just ONE...needs to worry'? How do you make an even split of work/territory for 3 reps that are left??? Wouldn't it be more likely that half would be cut??
 












"Just one per metropolitan area really needs to worry." If there are 4+ reps in a metro area, that would typically mean 2 white/2 blue, but you state 'just ONE...needs to worry'? How do you make an even split of work/territory for 3 reps that are left??? Wouldn't it be more likely that half would be cut??

I think what the original post meant is that 1/2 the reps will be the new Prolensa & Lotemax reps. The other half will be the new anti-infective/glaucoma reps but those reps will have much bigger territories so some"one" will get cut.
 
























one thing I know-if youre tenured and one of the highest paid, eyes are on you, 'cause now your getting into valeant's pockets.....witnessed first hand when sorry ass managers started targeting their best with fabricated reports
 






No way the Optometry division of 5-6 reps will still exist. That was a stupid initiative that cost Valeant a lot of business. Did I say stupid? Diagnostic division and test is stupid too but will continue as HQ is too pompous to admit mistakes. No way either of these divisions are profitable.
 
























No way there is 180, we have that right now. They don't fly managers in last minute on a holiday week, eliminate samples from the entire salesforce for a month to not end up with a major overhaul.

They mean we will end up with 180. We have 200+ now. A 10% reduction would be 20 or so...leaving 180. Sounds about right.
 










































Manager here. This is way too general. Each district will be treated individually. It's like any other re-org you've been through or have heard about. Things change, people adapt. Never heard anything about top performers or high salary reps targeted. That's BS. If you're a bottom feeder, I'd be concerned. Bottom feeders always should be concerned though. No room for dead wood. Good luck, y'all.