100%!! They are going to chase good people away. My manager has been cool "so far". But I don't know if it'll remain once pressure starts. If a manager is applying pressure already, that's a major red flag.
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Yes! We have two people in our district new to pharma. How did they get hired for this specialty role? They are drowning because this is just such a debacle. It’s hard enough for seasoned reps let alone the ones new to the industry. Seems like there are many unhappy people.
hey Einstein, a monkey could do your specialty role
A lot of micro management for 2 year primary care experience. This is a sad environment.
You be surprised that sometimes "newbies" do better than the seasoned ones and eventually become your managers. Like you were never a new rep yourself at one time in your rep life! This job is for anyone with enough "fire in their belly", seasoned or not! And usually, they don't hang out here in CP!
no one ever said they wouldn’t do well. They are drowning and feeling more pressure than should be applied. Go troll somewhere else.
Was just told about this site and it's been entertaining to read!
Coming from a sales job of being in the office by 8am, making 50 cold calls a day and given "far out goals" I do have to say this has been a very straight forward and simple experience.
The asks, again coming from previous sales jobs, have been simple to address especially with the daily flexibility given. Mark out your territory, identify the opportunities, and put it in a spread sheet to review with your manager. Sure we had to do it twice but that's much less than other companies make you do tasks.
I'm recruiting more of my previous colleagues who will gladly take the work life balance, salary, $75/mo cell phone expense and $100/mo new company car.
The only people duped is Syneos/Idorsia for hiring reps that want to take a vacation during the month of launching the medication! Easy competition for the rest of us. Bring on the trolling comments so we can all laugh more.
Coming from a sales job of being in the office by 8am, making 50 cold calls a day and given "far out goals" I do have to say this has been a very straight forward and simple experience.
The asks, again coming from previous sales jobs, have been simple to address especially with the daily flexibility given. Mark out your territory, identify the opportunities, and put it in a spread sheet to review with your manager. Sure we had to do it twice but that's much less than other companies make you do tasks.
I'm recruiting more of my previous colleagues who will gladly take the work life balance, salary, $75/mo cell phone expense and $100/mo new company car.
The only people duped is Syneos/Idorsia for hiring reps that want to take a vacation during the month of launching the medication! Easy competition for the rest of us. Bring on the trolling comments so we can all laugh more.
Wow this thread has been very entertaining and very true. I can understand coming from outside the industry how this may feel like a better opportunity for you and your former colleague who you are recruiting. However, for the reps that have been in the industry for many years it’s very obvious that many of us are on the same page. This has been a real mess. The salary here is quite low and many of us took the position because this “seemed” like a good option at the time. Depending on which region you are in and who your manager is may make a difference as well. For me this has been bad. I’m really hoping that things get better and maybe it will change after the meeting but the leadership seems to be all over the place wirh no consistency whatsoever. Good luck to all and I’m happy that it’s been a positive change for some. Has not been that way for me and many others. See you in Boston.
This is hilarious. Straight from management in disguise.
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Anyone that took this position because it seemed like a good option were either very naive or didn’t do any research on the product. Did you really believe the 3rd product to launch, in a market where the other two were dismal failures, would be a success? Have you looked at how expensive branded products perform in cheap generic markets? Did you talk to any providers at all? Even my sleep specialist thought it was doomed from the outset.
I'm amazed by the high IQ level here!
Not to talk about the crazy number of TOP sales reps chitchatting such deep subjects.
Come on anonymous guys, if you think you are worth so much more (which we all know you are), just move on, get on your next job already !
Or maybe 7k+ a month to sweat that much ain't that bad after all... and imagine if the product is any good and you won't even have to "work" to sell it (how crazy would that be, right?).
We all know not a lot of anonymous are actual Syneos reps here (I too would be kind of jealous is I were to be evicted from that journey you know).
Best of luck anyway !
Not to talk about the crazy number of TOP sales reps chitchatting such deep subjects.
Come on anonymous guys, if you think you are worth so much more (which we all know you are), just move on, get on your next job already !
Or maybe 7k+ a month to sweat that much ain't that bad after all... and imagine if the product is any good and you won't even have to "work" to sell it (how crazy would that be, right?).
We all know not a lot of anonymous are actual Syneos reps here (I too would be kind of jealous is I were to be evicted from that journey you know).
Best of luck anyway !
Ha! Believe me as soon as a new opportunity opens I’m gone. Until then I will continue to watch this train wreck derail. This meeting should be something.
I hear there are lots of open positions at your local McDonald's!
If it's within your reach of course.
Good luck with that
If it's within your reach of course.
Good luck with that
Wow, I dunno... I hope we won't have to work, right??!!
So many posts about this contract. Maybe this will tell Syneos something. Probably not but one could only hope. We all know that this has been f’d up from day one. Training was a joke. They threw so much information at us in such a short period of time. We still don’t feel like we know what we are doing out here. As others have said, the unorganized nature of this launch is very worrisome. If Boston is anything like the last 3 months have been then we are all screwed. Do I hope things turn around? Yes of course but in the meantime this is just a disaster.
Have you discussed your concerns with your manager?
Yea, complaining to your manager always works out.