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anonymous said:
Do you have to take a position if offered? If you choose not to, do you still get a severance? Most openings will be displaced in the near future. I’m one of the Ocrevus bait and switch victims and am curious?
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Believe it's your choice to take another position or severance. Good luck and so sorry this is happening.
 






You have to put in for an open position and no one is forced to take one - But if you apply and it is offered to you but you decline for any reason then you lose your severance.
 






anonymous said:
THATS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO SYMPATHY OR COMPASSIONATE AT ALL! GET OFF THIS THREAD. YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS COMMENTING ON ANYONES FINANCIAL SITUATION. IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS THIS NOW EATS INTO WHAT LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS FAMILIES DO HAVE. YOU ARE SUCH A JERK BEYOND WORDS. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME REAL COLD HEARTED ASSHOLES OUT THERE, BUT YOU TAKE THE CAKE. IS THIS YOUR NEW JOB POSTING ON HERE? GO AWAY. NO ONE WANTS YOUR OPINIONS OR COMMENTS. WE ALL WISH WE KNEW WHO YOU WERE. LOOK IN THE MIRROR, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE BIGEST DICK ON THE PLANET AND WHEREVER YOU WORK, I HOPE YOU GET CANNED.
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No, you’re the moronic jerk that lives like there’s no tomorrow. You work in an industry that is known for its yearly layoffs. Why do you think you’re paid so much to do nothing? The day of a 30 yr. career is over. Reach 50 and you’re unemployable.
You’re one of the fake “rich” who lives way over your head on making minimum payments on your credit cards, lease your beemer, and are mortgaged up the ass with your home that you couldn’t afford unless mommy and daddy gave you the down payment. Your life is a house of cards. Missing one paycheck will be catastrophic because you spend more than you make and haven’t saved shit.
Do you max out your 401k? Do you save at least 10 % of your income?
You’ll be crying croc tears seeing the repo man take your beemer away, and panic when the bank starts the foreclosure letters. Why, because you didn’t listen to anyone about finances.
Reality sucks for people like you.
Start a Go-Fund me like many losers do.
I may be a dick, but you’re a dope.
 






anonymous said:
OP here, I am so disheartened and disappointed by the lack of positive responses here. I thought we were a team and cared about one another and we would fight together to protect each other's job and livelihood. The first reply came from someone who said they have a luxury SUV to feed and private schools. How horrible !

Then we have people calling each other names and hurling insults and profane words at one another.

I am so disgusted. I wish I could volunteer to be displaced. I'd love to take the severance pay and start over at company where people care about their peers not just themselves. This totally stinks.
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Boo hoo hoo for you! Go cry somewhere else. No one cares about you but you. This isn’t lala land wth a pink unicorn as your company transportation. This is a greedy business that regards you as a necessary evil and will dump you as soon as technology replaces you. You need to look out for yourself, because no one else will. Profits first, prople second.... or third.
You may think I’m being cruel, but I’m just being pragmatic. The world doesn’t owe you a damn thing, and sure as hell won’t give you a damn thing. Holding you hand and consoling you will only make it worse and provide you no help.
Suck it up, honey.
 






anonymous said:
No, you’re the moronic jerk that lives like there’s no tomorrow. You work in an industry that is known for its yearly layoffs. Why do you think you’re paid so much to do nothing? The day of a 30 yr. career is over. Reach 50 and you’re unemployable.
You’re one of the fake “rich” who lives way over your head on making minimum payments on your credit cards, lease your beemer, and are mortgaged up the ass with your home that you couldn’t afford unless mommy and daddy gave you the down payment. Your life is a house of cards. Missing one paycheck will be catastrophic because you spend more than you make and haven’t saved shit.
Do you max out your 401k? Do you save at least 10 % of your income?
You’ll be crying croc tears seeing the repo man take your beemer away, and panic when the bank starts the foreclosure letters. Why, because you didn’t listen to anyone about finances.
Reality sucks for people like you.
Start a Go-Fund me like many losers do.
I may be a dick, but you’re a dope.
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Couldn't have said it better.
 






anonymous said:
No, you’re the moronic jerk that lives like there’s no tomorrow. You work in an industry that is known for its yearly layoffs. Why do you think you’re paid so much to do nothing? The day of a 30 yr. career is over. Reach 50 and you’re unemployable.
You’re one of the fake “rich” who lives way over your head on making minimum payments on your credit cards, lease your beemer, and are mortgaged up the ass with your home that you couldn’t afford unless mommy and daddy gave you the down payment. Your life is a house of cards. Missing one paycheck will be catastrophic because you spend more than you make and haven’t saved shit.
Do you max out your 401k? Do you save at least 10 % of your income?
You’ll be crying croc tears seeing the repo man take your beemer away, and panic when the bank starts the foreclosure letters. Why, because you didn’t listen to anyone about finances.
Reality sucks for people like you.
Start a Go-Fund me like many losers do.
I may be a dick, but you’re a dope.
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This is such a sensitive topic. How can you troll?! I have a mortgage, kids, bills, etc that I have to pay for. Caught me of guard. Quit it jerk!
 






anonymous said:
Boo hoo hoo for you! Go cry somewhere else. No one cares about you . You may think I’m being cruel, but I’m just being pragmatic.
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Actually that isn’t true. Have you actually read your own words? A number of families will be affected by Genentech’s disregard for those they brought over 2 years ago. They promised the World, and then used us. Now they will dispose of us. Give them a break.

You have continuously posted hate filled vitriol here in every thread regarding the layoffs. We all know you are a troll, but this is a bit different due to the subject. I feel sorry for your kids, because their Dad is a very poor role model and certainly a bad father. Not only a bad influence, but also someone who most likely hits his wife and definitely verbally abuses her. You really are a puny human being and you know it. Please go back to your companies board and troll there. Thanks
 












anonymous said:
BooHoo. You should have 6 months disposable cash on hand (not including daily living money - mortgage, kids, bills,etc). Days of living large are ending
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You know instead of trolling maybe you should be paying more attention to your kids? Does your wife have to do everything? Is she allowed to have her own debit card, or do you also control that? Your kids miss you and need a real father.
 






anonymous said:
BooHoo. You should have 6 months disposable cash on hand (not including daily living money - mortgage, kids, bills,etc). Days of living large are ending
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Youre really sick. You do realize that there are some people in this franchise that have dealt with a lot of bad breaks that cost them their life savings like dealing with cancer, extreme personal financial losses, a very sick child, and other life challenges that no one needs to know about. There are people that not only gave up a job but a lot of other things for this opportunity and then they are treated like this. I’m so happy you have 6 months disposable cash and that’s great advice but sometimes life doesn’t deal you great cards like now. So we certainly don’t need horrible people like you making people feel worse.
 






anonymous said:
Actually that isn’t true. Have you actually read your own words? A number of families will be affected by Genentech’s disregard for those they brought over 2 years ago. They promised the World, and then used us. Now they will dispose of us. Give them a break.

You have continuously posted hate filled vitriol here in every thread regarding the layoffs. We all know you are a troll, but this is a bit different due to the subject. I feel sorry for your kids, because their Dad is a very poor role model and certainly a bad father. Not only a bad influence, but also someone who most likely hits his wife and definitely verbally abuses her. You really are a puny human being and you know it. Please go back to your companies board and troll there. Thanks
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MAGA?
 






anonymous said:
Youre really sick. You do realize that there are some people in this franchise that have dealt with a lot of bad breaks that cost them their life savings like dealing with cancer, extreme personal financial losses, a very sick child, and other life challenges that no one needs to know about. There are people that not only gave up a job but a lot of other things for this opportunity and then they are treated like this. I’m so happy you have 6 months disposable cash and that’s great advice but sometimes life doesn’t deal you great cards like now. So we certainly don’t need horrible people like you making people feel worse.
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Thank you for posting this! I also know of some people in this franchise that are financially devastated not because they were irresponsible about money but because bad things that sometimes happen in life happened. Ignore the haters and help each other regardless of the outcome. We need to be there for one another. Genentech sucks.
 






anonymous said:
Thank you for posting this! I also know of some people in this franchise that are financially devastated not because they were irresponsible about money but because bad things that sometimes happen in life happened. Ignore the haters and help each other regardless of the outcome. We need to be there for one another. Genentech sucks.
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You know damn well once the fired people are gone, no one will ever talk to them again. Please cut the bullshit. Will be business as usual after the call!!!
 












anonymous said:
You know damn well once the fired people are gone, no one will ever talk to them again. Please cut the bullshit. Will be business as usual after the call!!!
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They were making a plea to unite together. Boy, you are one sad dude. Perhaps there will be a lot that will just forget and go on with their lives but many of us have committed to help each other. Why be such a wise ass? You can see the unhappiness of your dreary self just in your pathetic writing. Do everyone a favor and just go away. What the hell is the purpose of your posts other than to devastate someone. Go away you nasty person. You probably don’t have a single true friend.
 






anonymous said:
They were making a plea to unite together. Boy, you are one sad dude. Perhaps there will be a lot that will just forget and go on with their lives but many of us have committed to help each other. Why be such a wise ass? You can see the unhappiness of your dreary self just in your pathetic writing. Do everyone a favor and just go away. What the hell is the purpose of your posts other than to devastate someone. Go away you nasty person. You probably don’t have a single true friend.
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Just ignore the troll. Very likely paid to trash this thread so step around.
 






anonymous said:
Actually that isn’t true. Have you actually read your own words? A number of families will be affected by Genentech’s disregard for those they brought over 2 years ago. They promised the World, and then used us. Now they will dispose of us. Give them a break.

You have continuously posted hate filled vitriol here in every thread regarding the layoffs. We all know you are a troll, but this is a bit different due to the subject. I feel sorry for your kids, because their Dad is a very poor role model and certainly a bad father. Not only a bad influence, but also someone who most likely hits his wife and definitely verbally abuses her. You really are a puny human being and you know it. Please go back to your companies board and troll there. Thanks
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You are jumping to the assumption that this person has to be a male. I find that exceptionally offensive. Are there no hate-filed females in the world? My experience has confirmed they are not all sugar & spice.
 






anonymous said:
You know instead of trolling maybe you should be paying more attention to your kids? Does your wife have to do everything? Is she allowed to have her own debit card, or do you also control that? Your kids miss you and need a real father.
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How do you know this poster is a male and married? Is your assertion here that only a married male could make these hate-filled posts?

Any other stereotypes you’d like to add?
White?
Over 50?
Christian?
Conservative?
Heterosexual?

Suggest while you are throwing stones, you take a look in the mirror, your biases are showing.
 






anonymous said:
They were making a plea to unite together. Boy, you are one sad dude. Perhaps there will be a lot that will just forget and go on with their lives but many of us have committed to help each other. Why be such a wise ass? You can see the unhappiness of your dreary self just in your pathetic writing. Do everyone a favor and just go away. What the hell is the purpose of your posts other than to devastate someone. Go away you nasty person. You probably don’t have a single true friend.
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A plea to unite..? Is this the Peace Corp or the United Nations?? Jobs are on the line.. if it comes down to me versus you in a position, I have a family to feed so fu**you.
 












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