Furloughs?

[anonymous]

This is a very popular thread. Since this is time for truth and change, I have a thought provoking question: Why do you believe that black folk are responsible for racists’ (or those who display unconscious or conscious bias) comfort?
FYI: employees at Monrovia, do you know that you are being surveilled by cameras and microphones that these paranoids in charge had professionally installed? LabCorp paid for it. Excuses:The frig in break room had a thief, the cytotechs might be thinking about unionizing, looking for blackmail dirt, and making sure techs do not collaborate so as to make changes in management, or the boogey man is going to get them. The microphone is so loud at the main entrance, you can hear it buzzing 20 feet away, so if you have a phone call or need to have a private conversation, go to the lounge area.

In addition, this must be the first time in history that cytotechs, who did not own the lab, have authority over the Lab Director. Who made that decision? Was that lame or what?

The thought police? Miss me on that.

You know, you could be right: witchcraft!
Wake up people. This insanity has to change. There is no stopping it. We want honesty. We want good working conditions?We want a better world.

 

[anonymous]

Oh there is more to come: you know, like Why you nitpick 5 year retrospective reviews of Pap smears from patients with current low grade or high grade biopsy reports. The slightest reactive change is called at least ascus or agus. No notation for if the prior smear was representative of the biopsy. No concern for specificity Vs sensitivity. Especially since well known statistics show that when patients with Pap smears, reported as reactive, are biopsied, 27% will have high grade lesions. A supervisor who does not know this puts all the blame on the tech While placing the lab in legal jeopardy.
To speak up will result in this kind of crap being used to keep a cytotech’s mouth shut and in his/her place. That along with being lied on and having your phone calls ignored. And who can hollar racism when you have non- white actors doing the dirty work? You see what the Chinese are doing to the Africans in China and in Africa, don’t you? Racism is a global system.
Keep working “the craft” if you’d like. It will no longer protect you from your karmic realities. It is going to turn on you. B/c this is a new day and regardless of the trickery, the stuff they want hidden will be revealed.
Enough for today....

Where in the hell did that "27 percent of reactive cases have high grade lesions" statistic come from? That sure isn't the case in any lab I have ever worked at.

Cytotechs better be prepared for big time layoffs. The volumes are going to be down indefinitely. Just what the field needed, another death knell. If you aren't retraining, you better be doing so.

 

[anonymous]

Well if the workload is down by 50%, then either close down 50% of the labs and/or furlough or lay-off your techs by seniority. Without regard to gender, race, age, or sexual preference, And not giving preference to your buddy, personal informer(snitch)or for any other reason. You are all a bunch of frenemies anyway.
The idea of being treated like your yo-yo, and needing to file for unemployment every 4 weeks is ridiculous.

Seniority, who cares about that? The techs laid off should be the less productive ones. That is how the world works. If you are a cytotech, most of you will be getting laid off anyways. Your field is dead.

 

[anonymous]

Oh there is more to come: you know, like Why you nitpick 5 year retrospective reviews of Pap smears from patients with current low grade or high grade biopsy reports. The slightest reactive change is called at least ascus or agus. No notation for if the prior smear was representative of the biopsy. No concern for specificity Vs sensitivity. Especially since well known statistics show that when patients with Pap smears, reported as reactive, are biopsied, 27% will have high grade lesions. A supervisor who does not know this puts all the blame on the tech While placing the lab in legal jeopardy.
To speak up will result in this kind of crap being used to keep a cytotech’s mouth shut and in his/her place. That along with being lied on and having your phone calls ignored. And who can hollar racism when you have non- white actors doing the dirty work? You see what the Chinese are doing to the Africans in China and in Africa, don’t you? Racism is a global system.
Keep working “the craft” if you’d like. It will no longer protect you from your karmic realities. It is going to turn on you. B/c this is a new day and regardless of the trickery, the stuff they want hidden will be revealed.
Enough for today....

27 percent of reactive cases have high grade? Where did that stat come from? Not at any lab I have worked at.

The volume of pap tests is going to plummet indefinitely so cytotechs better be retraining immediately. Many of you wont be coming back from furlough. This is another death knell for the field, as if it needed anymore. Dead field for sure.

 

[anonymous]

27 percent of reactive cases have high grade? Where did that stat come from? Not at any lab I have worked at.

The volume of pap tests is going to plummet indefinitely so cytotechs better be retraining immediately. Many of you wont be coming back from furlough. This is another death knell for the field, as if it needed anymore. Dead field for sure.

 

[anonymous]

Where in the hell did that "27 percent of reactive cases have high grade lesions" statistic come from? That sure isn't the case in any lab I have ever worked at.

Cytotechs better be prepared for big time layoffs. The volumes are going to be down indefinitely. Just what the field needed, another death knell. If you aren't retraining, you better be doing so.

The stats comes from Cytopathologists Lectures a while back. You know. When employers actually encouraged cytotechnologists to attend professional organizations’ conventions and meetings by giving paid time off and paying fees and expenses to attend . They were given by the (now defunct) CAC, the ASCP, IAC, , ASC.,ASCT, etc. for continuing education. The sad thing is that continuing education at these lab comes via periodic CAP tests. And that is only because 12 units per year is required to maintain a Cytotechnologist license in the state of California,
So you are showing your ignorance again.. Do some research. Oh, we must have forgotten. The only thing you concern yourself with is how much money you can make or you would know this. So never mind.
Btw, aren’t you the same person who said that nobody did breast aspirations anymore? If not, you share the same negative energy.

and you had better retrain too, since cytology is paying your salary. That is. Unless you have been furloughed also.

 

[anonymous]

Seniority, who cares about that? The techs laid off should be the less productive ones. That is how the world works. If you are a cytotech, most of you will be getting laid off anyways. Your field is dead.[/QUOTE

That is a crock of bull..Listen and learn. Production is controlled by law. The state limits the number of slides that a tech may read . And in a specific case, this tech is excellent. This tech is second in seniority. out of 12. When the tech, most senior, met with the cytotech manager, she was told that she was not being furloughed because she had the most seniority. The tech, who was second in seniority is definitely no less productive than the first. The difference is that the second in seniority is African American. I could say more, but I will leave it there for now.
For some racist reason, African Americans are held to a higher standard. In fact, this crazy manager has some kind of racist obsession with African Americans. For example, when the workload was low, everyone in the lab might be texting or reading the newspaper .However, she only focused on the African American. Everyone could hear her on the telephone complaining that she was texting. Which is rich, since the only thing she works is her mouth. Gaslighting is her specialty. Always got some drama going on. When there was a backlog, and all techs, including her, were required to work weekends, she was insubordinate. She never worked a single weekend.

Perhaps her behavior because she hates the fact that African Americans are native born American citizens while she is not. Perhaps it is because the African American that she obviously hates is not a scared negro.

I am tired of this old story.I am sure That nobody cares, because people are selfish that way.

 

[anonymous]

The cytotech who had the most seniority was told that she would not be furloughed because she had the most seniority. The tech who was second in seniority was told she would be furloughed. The second in seniority is excellent and definitely no less productive than the first in seniority. The manager who made the decision never worked. When there was a huge backlog, she as well as the rest of the cytotechs were required to work weekends. She never worked a single weekend, while we all worked at least every other weekend.

 

[anonymous]

Seniority, who cares about that? The techs laid off should be the less productive ones. That is how the world works. If you are a cytotech, most of you will be getting laid off anyways. Your field is dead.

What are you talking about.? cytology is not sales. The state law restricts the number of slides that are read by each tech. Most of the cytotechs are seasoned and therefore excellent. Seniority has always been the determining factor under these circumstances and the only thing that makes sense, unless there are ulterior motives.

 

[anonymous]

The stats comes from Cytopathologists Lectures a while back. You know. When employers actually encouraged cytotechnologists to attend professional organizations’ conventions and meetings by giving paid time off and paying fees and expenses to attend . They were given by the (now defunct) CAC, the ASCP, IAC, , ASC.,ASCT, etc. for continuing education. The sad thing is that continuing education at these lab comes via periodic CAP tests. And that is only because 12 units per year is required to maintain a Cytotechnologist license in the state of California,
So you are showing your ignorance again.. Do some research. Oh, we must have forgotten. The only thing you concern yourself with is how much money you can make or you would know this. So never mind.
Btw, aren’t you the same person who said that nobody did breast aspirations anymore? If not, you share the same negative energy.

and you had better retrain too, since cytology is paying your salary. That is. Unless you have been furloughed also.

Remember when thinprep came out there were studies claiming huge increases in hgsil detection. Stats in cytology are useless since there is so much variation lab to lab. I know in my many decades of work, screening hundreds of thousands of paps, I have not seen that many cases diagnosed as "reactive" end up showing hgsil. They must have overcalled reactive at those labs.

Breast FNA did die off. It was replaced by cores in the majority of locations. One publication actually had an obituary for breast fna years ago.

Obituary: "Alas Poor FNA of Breast-We Knew Thee Well!" - PubMed

This is a weird forum for some pissed off employees of LabCorp in California to bitch about their boss.

 

[anonymous]

Remember when thinprep came out there were studies claiming huge increases in hgsil detection. Stats in cytology are useless since there is so much variation lab to lab. I know in my many decades of work, screening hundreds of thousands of paps, I have not seen that many cases diagnosed as "reactive" end up showing hgsil. They must have overcalled reactive at those labs.

Breast FNA did die off. It was replaced by cores in the majority of locations. One publication actually had an obituary for breast fna years ago.

Obituary: "Alas Poor FNA of Breast-We Knew Thee Well!" - PubMed

This is a weird forum for some pissed off employees of LabCorp in California to bitch about their boss.

Seemed like a simple concept. Didn’t know that we would have to break it down to negative Nan.

As far as breast’s are concerned, there have always been core biopsies performed on breasts. And although there are fewer, aspirations are still being performed. In your prior post, you said “none” were being done.

People who do not use logic make me SMH. Perhaps the reason that you did not recognize the statistic is because you you did not do the study. You certainly can’t follow reactives when they are diagnosted as negative. That is not a problem. It was said to make a point. The statistic came out well before ancillary, DNA co-testing. To be precise, in a study, where Paps that were previously diagnosed as Reactive (Class 2) were followed and/ or biopsied, 27% of them became high grades. This means that 73% did not. We now have co-testing at that time, so these findings are no longer practical, but were useful in making a point.

If you ever worked in a lab where most of the specimens were from high risk patients, you would understand the stats, and you would understand concepts of specificity vs sensitivity, and that hindsight is a perfect science. And if you attended the annual cytology seminars, you would know the legal implications.
You would also understand that cytology is an art as well as a science. It is a screening tool and can never be 100% accurate.

None of the above is a problem. The problem is when you have people with personality disorders and no integrity using it as a weapon and running a lab.

We are not angry with the manager or the supervisors. These are desperate people and we feel sorry for them, do not enjoy the drama.

If you don’t like the post, there is nothing forcing you to read it or respond to it. It is a voice that needs to be heard. This is a free country.

 

[anonymous]

Seemed like a simple concept. Didn’t know that we would have to break it down to negative Nan.

As far as breast’s are concerned, there have always been core biopsies performed on breasts. And although there are fewer, aspirations are still being performed. In your prior post, you said “none” were being done.

People who do not use logic make me SMH. Perhaps the reason that you did not recognize the statistic is because you you did not do the study. You certainly can’t follow reactives when they are diagnosted as negative. That is not a problem. It was said to make a point. The statistic came out well before ancillary, DNA co-testing. To be precise, in a study, where Paps that were previously diagnosed as Reactive (Class 2) were followed and/ or biopsied, 27% of them became high grades. This means that 73% did not. We now have co-testing at that time, so these findings are no longer practical, but were useful in making a point.

If you ever worked in a lab where most of the specimens were from high risk patients, you would understand the stats, and you would understand concepts of specificity vs sensitivity, and that hindsight is a perfect science. And if you attended the annual cytology seminars, you would know the legal implications.
You would also understand that cytology is an art as well as a science. It is a screening tool and can never be 100% accurate.

None of the above is a problem. The problem is when you have people with personality disorders and no integrity using it as a weapon and running a lab.

We are not angry with the manager or the supervisors. These are desperate people and we feel sorry for them, do not enjoy the drama.

If you don’t like the post, there is nothing forcing you to read it or respond to it. It is a voice that needs to be heard. This is a free country.

Meant to say ...we now have co-testing, which we did not have at the time the study was done

 

[anonymous]

The cytotech who had the most seniority was told that she would not be furloughed because she had the most seniority. The tech who was second in seniority was told she would be furloughed. The second in seniority is excellent and definitely no less productive than the first in seniority. The manager who made the decision never worked. When there was a huge backlog, she as well as the rest of the cytotechs were required to work weekends. She never worked a single weekend, while we all worked at least every other weekend.

SMH. And I will bet that she told “her boss” that she was rescreening special QA studies required by inspectors, and that’s why those phantom cases did not show up in the count. No! They were at home with THEIR families every weekend.

 

[anonymous]

Seemed like a simple concept. Didn’t know that we would have to break it down to negative Nan.

As far as breast’s are concerned, there have always been core biopsies performed on breasts. And although there are fewer, aspirations are still being performed. In your prior post, you said “none” were being done.

People who do not use logic make me SMH. Perhaps the reason that you did not recognize the statistic is because you you did not do the study. You certainly can’t follow reactives when they are diagnosted as negative. That is not a problem. It was said to make a point. The statistic came out well before ancillary, DNA co-testing. To be precise, in a study, where Paps that were previously diagnosed as Reactive (Class 2) were followed and/ or biopsied, 27% of them became high grades. This means that 73% did not. We now have co-testing at that time, so these findings are no longer practical, but were useful in making a point.

If you ever worked in a lab where most of the specimens were from high risk patients, you would understand the stats, and you would understand concepts of specificity vs sensitivity, and that hindsight is a perfect science. And if you attended the annual cytology seminars, you would know the legal implications.
You would also understand that cytology is an art as well as a science. It is a screening tool and can never be 100% accurate.

None of the above is a problem. The problem is when you have people with personality disorders and no integrity using it as a weapon and running a lab.

We are not angry with the manager or the supervisors. These are desperate people and we feel sorry for them, do not enjoy the drama.

If you don’t like the post, there is nothing forcing you to read it or respond to it. It is a voice that needs to be heard. This is a free country.

You sound like you have a personality disorder. LOL.
Ok, there are handful of breast fna still done but not for important diagnoses. I know how vital it is to diagnosis apocrine metaplasia on those few cysts aspirates performed.

You better be glad you have a job. Cytology is dying, just like the CAC did. If they presented garbage about 27 percent of high grades having previous reactive changes dx, then it sounds like there wasn't much real education going on anyways.

 

[anonymous]

Remember when thinprep came out there were studies claiming huge increases in hgsil detection. Stats in cytology are useless since there is so much variation lab to lab. I know in my many decades of work, screening hundreds of thousands of paps, I have not seen that many cases diagnosed as "reactive" end up showing hgsil. They must have overcalled reactive at those labs.

Breast FNA did die off. It was replaced by cores in the majority of locations. One publication actually had an obituary for breast fna years ago.

Obituary: "Alas Poor FNA of Breast-We Knew Thee Well!" - PubMed

This is a weird forum for some pissed off employees of LabCorp in California to bitch about their boss.

You are wrong. We are not pissed. This kind of crap has to stop and won’t stop unless it is exposed.

This person poisons the minds of people against you if you confront her. She will order that your phone calls are not responded to. Make you feel like you are working on a plantation.

 

[anonymous]

You sound like you have a personality disorder. LOL.
Ok, there are handful of breast fna still done but not for important diagnoses. I know how vital it is to diagnosis apocrine metaplasia on those few cysts aspirates performed.

You better be glad you have a job. Cytology is dying, just like the CAC did. If they presented garbage about 27 percent of high grades having previous reactive changes dx, then it sounds like there wasn't much real education going on anyways.

Either you are not a real cytotech, you are a troll, or you are an LCA manager. That would explain the obsession you have with having to be right. Who gives a flying fk about breast biopsies or reactive changes.

 

[anonymous]

You sound like you have a personality disorder. LOL.
Ok, there are handful of breast fna still done but not for important diagnoses. I know how vital it is to diagnosis apocrine metaplasia on those few cysts aspirates performed.

You better be glad you have a job. Cytology is dying, just like the CAC did. If they presented garbage about 27 percent of high grades having previous reactive changes dx, then it sounds like there wasn't much real education going on anyways.

SMH

 

[anonymous]

Either you are not a real cytotech, you are a troll, or you are an LCA manager. That would explain the obsession you have with having to be right. Who gives a flying fk about breast biopsies or reactive changes.[/QUOTE

You are right b/c they weren’t crying cytology is dying a few months ago, before Covid-19, when the paps were backed up to the rafters. They were willing to break a few laws then. Weren’t they?

 

[anonymous]

You sound like you have a personality disorder. LOL.
Ok, there are handful of breast fna still done but not for important diagnoses. I know how vital it is to diagnosis apocrine metaplasia on those few cysts aspirates performed.

You better be glad you have a job. Cytology is dying, just like the CAC did. If they presented garbage about 27 percent of high grades having previous reactive changes dx, then it sounds like there wasn't much real education going on anyways.

You were not talking cytology is dying a few months ago, before Covid-19, when the paps were backed up to the rafters. You were willing to break a few laws then. Weren’t you?

 

[anonymous]

Listen. You have lost the main point that the poster was making. Someone once said that the eye cannot see what the mind does not know. The world is changing. This is the opportunity to make a better world. Some us are comfortable after years of adaptation to the status quo. Change, like childbirth, is painful.

The rest of us want change. You cannot have good managers who are imbalanced, just because they are “organized.” So was Hitler.

If all life matters, then Black Life Matters.