Electric Vehicle

[anonymous]

The electric cars are coming. Fortunate enough in Montana we won't be getting 'em soon but their being sent out. CBD let it slip. How the hec do we get out of it

 

[anonymous]

You don’t. This is part of our zero carbon sustainability plan. In the long run it’s good for the environment, however we will need to roll with the changes. It will require more planning on our part (like remembering to plug it in every night), but AZ is footing the bill for plug in station at your home, expensing added electrical costs, etc. It won’t cost you anything to switch, but will save AZ and our environment a lot. Just think - when gas was up $2/gallon - with 6,000 co cars, costs went up $12k for just 1 extra gallon of gas per car. We take that for granted. AZ is committed to being a leader. Let’s do our part to support our employer and our environment. Plus….it will likely be 2023 before cars are delivered due to all the chip shortages. Let’s find the positive in the change - like we still have a company car than only the negative. None of us want to foot the entire bill for car payment (esp in 2022), gas, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation. Still a huge perk despite the type of car.

 

[anonymous]

The electric cars are coming. Fortunate enough in Montana we won't be getting 'em soon but their being sent out. CBD let it slip. How the hec do we get out of it

Go fuck yourself

 

[anonymous]

You don’t. This is part of our zero carbon sustainability plan. In the long run it’s good for the environment, however we will need to roll with the changes. It will require more planning on our part (like remembering to plug it in every night), but AZ is footing the bill for plug in station at your home, expensing added electrical costs, etc. It won’t cost you anything to switch, but will save AZ and our environment a lot. Just think - when gas was up $2/gallon - with 6,000 co cars, costs went up $12k for just 1 extra gallon of gas per car. We take that for granted. AZ is committed to being a leader. Let’s do our part to support our employer and our environment. Plus….it will likely be 2023 before cars are delivered due to all the chip shortages. Let’s find the positive in the change - like we still have a company car than only the negative. None of us want to foot the entire bill for car payment (esp in 2022), gas, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation. Still a huge perk despite the type of car.

Is AZ going to pay the electric bill because it’s going to be huge?

 

[anonymous]

You don’t. This is part of our zero carbon sustainability plan. In the long run it’s good for the environment, however we will need to roll with the changes. It will require more planning on our part (like remembering to plug it in every night), but AZ is footing the bill for plug in station at your home, expensing added electrical costs, etc. It won’t cost you anything to switch, but will save AZ and our environment a lot. Just think - when gas was up $2/gallon - with 6,000 co cars, costs went up $12k for just 1 extra gallon of gas per car. We take that for granted. AZ is committed to being a leader. Let’s do our part to support our employer and our environment. Plus….it will likely be 2023 before cars are delivered due to all the chip shortages. Let’s find the positive in the change - like we still have a company car than only the negative. None of us want to foot the entire bill for car payment (esp in 2022), gas, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation. Still a huge perk despite the type of car.

Will you get paid days off if power is off in your area for more than a day? No juice, no drive.

 

[anonymous]

Is AZ going to pay the electric bill because it’s going to be huge?

No. Charger technology/app can tell how much power is utilized each month and you will be reimbursed. Consider it like your cellphone reimbursement. You need the technology to do your job and AZ reimburses. In other words, cost does not roll down hill for switching to electric. AZ is financially invested and covering costs.

 

[anonymous]

Will you get paid days off if power is off in your area for more than a day? No juice, no drive.

This is where planning comes in. You have approx 230 miles on a full charge, so most won’t be on empty daily, but best practice to plug in every night (like your IPad ). If your power goes off, you should have enough charge to drive to nearest charging station and charge. Main concern is infrastructure to support needed charges, but I dare say we probably drive past multiple charging areas a day and don’t even know it since we aren’t looking. There will be an app to help you identify closest chargers when needed. They really have created a solid plan. Reserve judgement until you hear all the details….I know it’s hard, but you may be the one that doesn’t get your vehicle for another 2 years and our colleagues will be the ones leading through the new process.

 

[anonymous]

I hope there are more options than just the Chevy Volt.... horrible tiny car!

 

[anonymous]

Something I think is funny- we never consider the environmental cost of harvesting the menerals to make batteries or where the batteries go when they need replacing. Also, where does the energy to charge the batteries come from, coal plants!! Wonder what that does to the environment. Electric cars are actually worse than gas but, we can not talk about that.

 

[anonymous]

"Sorry doctor i can't take your samples now I have to stop and charge for 30 minutes"

what happens for overnight travel. What happens if charger is being used by another vehicle during overnight. We are expected to cover large territories but it's all stupid.

 

[anonymous]

It’s a great move on AZ’s part but it has it’s flaws. I agree with the poster about electric car choice. If AZ really wants reps to get into an electric car they should have offered more than just one option or the ability to pay more for a better car. The chevy bolt euv isn’t really an electric car most people want. Clearly they got a deal on it and made it the only choice. All about the $$$ and getting the best bargain. They had difficulty getting reps to participate in the pilot program because no one wanted a bolt. If better options had been available more reps would probably be inclined to switch over. It would be difficult to convince a rep to give up their Rav 4 or Ford Escape for a bolt which is much smaller than their current car. It would be considered a downgrade. I have an escape and know I would not give it up to get into a bolt. AZ should have at least gone with what other companies offered like Teslas at Novartis or electric Volvos at Amgen. AZ fleet manager doesn’t understand how much time many of spend in our cars and the amount of driving and sitting in traffic. Just because the fleet team does a test drive round HQ and feels it was the best car choice isn’t enough to justify going with such a small car.


It will require a lot of planning for those getting into these cars. Key thing is remember the quoted range on an electric car is not real world. Having driven my share of electric cars you should take about 20% off what ever range you have. Depends on so many factors such as if you have a led foot, going up hills and highway driving etc. My guess is initially it will be a big learning curve. Look at how many of us wait until the fuel light comes on in our cars to get fuel. Wouldn’t want to take a chance in an electric car because charging stations will not be as abundant as gas stations for quite some time. Can see a lot of people needing to have their car towed to a charging station. Also as you go from office to office better make sure you have plenty of range. Don’t want to miss a lunch because you don’t have enough range and need to stop for 20min to charge etc.vs 5 min at a gas station. Glad I have a while before I have to think about this as they want a complete roll out by 2025.

 

[anonymous]

You don’t. This is part of our zero carbon sustainability plan. In the long run it’s good for the environment, however we will need to roll with the changes. It will require more planning on our part (like remembering to plug it in every night), but AZ is footing the bill for plug in station at your home, expensing added electrical costs, etc. It won’t cost you anything to switch, but will save AZ and our environment a lot. Just think - when gas was up $2/gallon - with 6,000 co cars, costs went up $12k for just 1 extra gallon of gas per car. We take that for granted. AZ is committed to being a leader. Let’s do our part to support our employer and our environment. Plus….it will likely be 2023 before cars are delivered due to all the chip shortages. Let’s find the positive in the change - like we still have a company car than only the negative. None of us want to foot the entire bill for car payment (esp in 2022), gas, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation. Still a huge perk despite the type of car.

Do our part??? Now that is funny.

Rolling brown outs and black outs because the grid can't handle the loads now during these heat waves. Electric vehicles add more to the carbon footprint than gas powered cars. Why? Because electric companies are forced to build more fossil fuel plants to ensure enough electricity. Wind and solar won't be enough Very inefficient.
250-300 miles on a charge. What about rush hour traffic? How long will they last in that situation? Picturing LA, NY, Boston, Chicago, Philly to name a few all notorious for shit driving during "rush hour".
Live in the northern plain states, great lakes region or northern New England? Winters and the inevitable several days of no power should be fun. I remember several years back a major ice storm hit one of these areas and homes were w/o power for a week or more.

I know we will all be there at some point but glad I am not one of the first guinea pigs. Lots of unanswered questions.

 

[anonymous]

It’s a great move on AZ’s part but it has it’s flaws. I agree with the poster about electric car choice. If AZ really wants reps to get into an electric car they should have offered more than just one option or the ability to pay more for a better car. The chevy bolt euv isn’t really an electric car most people want. Clearly they got a deal on it and made it the only choice. All about the $$$ and getting the best bargain. They had difficulty getting reps to participate in the pilot program because no one wanted a bolt. If better options had been available more reps would probably be inclined to switch over. It would be difficult to convince a rep to give up their Rav 4 or Ford Escape for a bolt which is much smaller than their current car. It would be considered a downgrade. I have an escape and know I would not give it up to get into a bolt. AZ should have at least gone with what other companies offered like Teslas at Novartis or electric Volvos at Amgen. AZ fleet manager doesn’t understand how much time many of spend in our cars and the amount of driving and sitting in traffic. Just because the fleet team does a test drive round HQ and feels it was the best car choice isn’t enough to justify going with such a small car.


It will require a lot of planning for those getting into these cars. Key thing is remember the quoted range on an electric car is not real world. Having driven my share of electric cars you should take about 20% off what ever range you have. Depends on so many factors such as if you have a led foot, going up hills and highway driving etc. My guess is initially it will be a big learning curve. Look at how many of us wait until the fuel light comes on in our cars to get fuel. Wouldn’t want to take a chance in an electric car because charging stations will not be as abundant as gas stations for quite some time. Can see a lot of people needing to have their car towed to a charging station. Also as you go from office to office better make sure you have plenty of range. Don’t want to miss a lunch because you don’t have enough range and need to stop for 20min to charge etc.vs 5 min at a gas station. Glad I have a while before I have to think about this as they want a complete roll out by 2025.

You Will All Be Extinct Before 2025! Bank on that.

 

[anonymous]

You don’t. This is part of our zero carbon sustainability plan. In the long run it’s good for the environment, however we will need to roll with the changes. It will require more planning on our part (like remembering to plug it in every night), but AZ is footing the bill for plug in station at your home, expensing added electrical costs, etc. It won’t cost you anything to switch, but will save AZ and our environment a lot. Just think - when gas was up $2/gallon - with 6,000 co cars, costs went up $12k for just 1 extra gallon of gas per car. We take that for granted. AZ is committed to being a leader. Let’s do our part to support our employer and our environment. Plus….it will likely be 2023 before cars are delivered due to all the chip shortages. Let’s find the positive in the change - like we still have a company car than only the negative. None of us want to foot the entire bill for car payment (esp in 2022), gas, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation. Still a huge perk despite the type of car.

It is not a perk- it is a tool for the job. We have to pay a monthly fee for this car that is more than the industry average. Electric vehicles are not a help to the environment. The batteries are Infact a huge problem for the environment. From the mining to the so called recycling. The “recycling” is sent over seas to slave labor and pollution of other countries where you liberal pussys never see the destruction- yet you feel so good about it while your trannie son puts on his new dress and you drive “it” to its therapy session.

 

[anonymous]

It is not a perk- it is a tool for the job. We have to pay a monthly fee for this car that is more than the industry average. Electric vehicles are not a help to the environment. The batteries are Infact a huge problem for the environment. From the mining to the so called recycling. The “recycling” is sent over seas to slave labor and pollution of other countries where you liberal pussys never see the destruction- yet you feel so good about it while your trannie son puts on his new dress and you drive “it” to its therapy session.

Wow, insecure much? Must be trying to overcompensate for something....

 

[anonymous]

It is not a perk- it is a tool for the job. We have to pay a monthly fee for this car that is more than the industry average. Electric vehicles are not a help to the environment. The batteries are Infact a huge problem for the environment. From the mining to the so called recycling. The “recycling” is sent over seas to slave labor and pollution of other countries where you liberal pussys never see the destruction- yet you feel so good about it while your trannie son puts on his new dress and you drive “it” to its therapy session.

ROTFLMFAO !

 

[anonymous]

Wow, insecure much? Must be trying to overcompensate for something....

I don't think they are. More just fed up with all the woke BS that permeates today's society. The list of people in that same boat grows day by day.

 

[anonymous]

It is not a perk- it is a tool for the job. We have to pay a monthly fee for this car that is more than the industry average. Electric vehicles are not a help to the environment. The batteries are Infact a huge problem for the environment. From the mining to the so called recycling. The “recycling” is sent over seas to slave labor and pollution of other countries where you liberal pussys never see the destruction- yet you feel so good about it while your trannie son puts on his new dress and you drive “it” to its therapy session.

Go tell this to the CEO. He comes up with some AMBITION which does not makes sense for the environment. But the whole AZ dances with it and makes it their own ambition!

 

[anonymous]

I watched a one-year review on YouTube of the Chevy Bolt. Real world range is only 160-215 miles. Less in the cold, less if you need to run heat or A/C.

A few days ago I drove 270 miles in one day seeing customers. That tiny overgrown golf cart isn't going to cut it.

And you can forget carrying literature in the tiny trunk area and still having room to pick up lunches (to save the company delivery fees, of course). Very little cargo room unless you fold the rear seats - hope you don't have to take the kids to school before work.

And finally, pray you never get hit by anything larger than a Mini, or they will need to hose your remains out of that tiny thing. I guess employee safety takes a back seat to being woke...or to whatever tax credits the company is getting for this foolishness.

 

[anonymous]

Would never work in my territory! I drive too many miles for one charge in a day and hell no I would not sit and charge it In the areas I got to! Good thing there are not any charging stations in those areas! Won’t work! Great idea but keep those ideas in Europe!