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anonymous said:
DEI initiatives result in the downfall of most, if not all, institutions that push it. Just take a look at Target's latest initiative to bury it . . . . . smart move. Libtardism fails.
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Bless your heart

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anonymous said:
i’ll answer the question for you, but you probably won’t like the answer Or you’ll just deny the truth.

The whole system has been set up over hundreds of years to favour white men. This is why white men dominate the economy, capital, and most senior executive positions. You would be deluded if you thought that white men were fundamentally just better Than all other humans. The reason they dominate all of these areas is because of affirmative action for white men for these past hundreds of years.

Affirmative action policies designed to bring people up to a level playing field are not ideal, but unfortunately there isn’t an obvious viable alternative in correcting this major structural imbalance in the economy and society.

let me also make a key point. Despite policies to level up minorities, white men are still favoured as evidence by data on promotions especially senior leadership promotions. So these policies are not designed to penalise but to bring people up to the same level. Further more the policies are supposed to create a level playing field where people have equal opportunity not equal outcome. This is not always properly implemented though.

unfortunately the response from many people like yourself, is that we should simply do nothing about the structural issues in the economy and society. Your argument is that because you didn’t directly create the system that has resulted in you benefiting disproportionately to others, nothing should be done and you should be allowed to retain all of the privilege that you have today.
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Neither one of us can go back and change what happened in the past. You have every opportunity today that I have. More, in fact. Because companies and AZ are actively and openly saying they will promote and hire diversity candidates.

Tell me how you not getting an opportunity for a promotion because you’re not a white man is any less fair than a white man losing his job because he is one?

This country’s original sin of slavery and the racism it caused and it’s effects is gonna take a long time to overcome. That created privilege and pain at the time, but neither of us lived either side of it. Punishing me to lift you up is just the reverse of that. And if you think I retain privilege because I’m white then you why did so many white men have to pay the price for George Floyd’s murder?

Why can’you or any DEI advocate at least be honest and say it’s just a more aggressive form of affirmative action?
 



anonymous said:
I think there would have been more buy in of DEI if the companies actually wanted diversity. The white men senior executives picking a Black person CDO were covering their asses. How many openly gay people at AZ? How many times have you offered a differing opinion and been shunned? Wealthy white men protecting their status at all cost by hiring a few Black shields. It tided them over until now so I guess it worked. Its gonna continue to be the reign of mediocre white men at AZ and throughout the USA
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Isn’t it funny how, when you get up to a certain level of leadership, DEI suddenly has no place. It’s ok to get rid of lower level white men, but DF and others at that level sure haven’t had to worry about being replaced by a DEI hire.
 



anonymous said:
Neither one of us can go back and change what happened in the past. You have every opportunity today that I have. More, in fact. Because companies and AZ are actively and openly saying they will promote and hire diversity candidates.

Tell me how you not getting an opportunity for a promotion because you’re not a white man is any less fair than a white man losing his job because he is one?

This country’s original sin of slavery and the racism it caused and it’s effects is gonna take a long time to overcome. That created privilege and pain at the time, but neither of us lived either side of it. Punishing me to lift you up is just the reverse of that. And if you think I retain privilege because I’m white then you why did so many white men have to pay the price for George Floyd’s murder?

Why can’you or any DEI advocate at least be honest and say it’s just a more aggressive form of affirmative action?
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Institutional prejudice is still here in the USA. Shameful
 



Keep arguing back and forth, so none of you will notice how much your ruling class keeps amassing wealth at your expense.

A little bit here, a little bit there.

They used to teach the Hegelian Dialectic in school. Knowledge of this tactic led to the French Revolution. I can see why this was discontinued.
 












anonymous said:
Neither one of us can go back and change what happened in the past. You have every opportunity today that I have. More, in fact. Because companies and AZ are actively and openly saying they will promote and hire diversity candidates.

Tell me how you not getting an opportunity for a promotion because you’re not a white man is any less fair than a white man losing his job because he is one?

This country’s original sin of slavery and the racism it caused and it’s effects is gonna take a long time to overcome. That created privilege and pain at the time, but neither of us lived either side of it. Punishing me to lift you up is just the reverse of that. And if you think I retain privilege because I’m white then you why did so many white men have to pay the price for George Floyd’s murder?

Why can’you or any DEI advocate at least be honest and say it’s just a more aggressive form of affirmative action?
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You miss the point. DEI when implemented properly, and I’ll admit some idiots don’t, is supposed to create equal opportunity for all people, not just the way it’s been where white men have had more opportunities. the idea isn’t to promote people at the expense of other people.

now if you say that we already all have an equal opportunity then you need to explain why if you look at corporate execs the numbers disproportionately skew toward white men. That’s a plain fact.
 



anonymous said:
Time to change your tinfoil hat. Systems are “designed“ to protect wealth and power irrespective of skin color and gender (there are two btw). Those who have wealth and power protect it by elevating those around them who they identify with or trust. We can debate the merits of that separately.

go to a company taken over by DEI and you will see the POC and alphabet crowd doing the same thing with their cronies. It’s not a color thing, it’s a human nature thing.
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I do agree with this. But don’t we want a society where all of us and our kids achieve based on merit and character? The question is how you get there. a kid from a poor family or a black family or any family should have an equal shot. if we agree on that we can debate HOW we get there.
 



anonymous said:
I do agree with this. But don’t we want a society where all of us and our kids achieve based on merit and character? The question is how you get there. a kid from a poor family or a black family or any family should have an equal shot. if we agree on that we can debate HOW we get there.
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Hear hear!

Indeed, the rub is the 'how'
 






anonymous said:
You miss the point. DEI when implemented properly, and I’ll admit some idiots don’t, is supposed to create equal opportunity for all people, not just the way it’s been where white men have had more opportunities. the idea isn’t to promote people at the expense of other people.

now if you say that we already all have an equal opportunity then you need to explain why if you look at corporate execs the numbers disproportionately skew toward white men. That’s a plain fact.
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Promoting DEI candidates at the expense of white men may not be the idea, but that’s EXACTLY what has been going on for over 4 years. ESPECIALLY here at AZ.

Just look at what they did with Project North Star in the OBU. A blind fool can see that DF’s white guilt made them get rid of over a dozen white men over age 50 for no reason other than their age, race and gender. And to compound the misery they made those poor bastards sign away their right to sue, at their most vulnerable moment, in order to keep their health insurance for a few months and to get the severance package.

So spare me what the intent is. And stop living in statistics. DEI has caused real pain and suffering for many, many people who didn’t do anything wrong. If that makes you feel good about DEI and it’s intent, then good for you.
 



anonymous said:
You miss the point. DEI when implemented properly, and I’ll admit some idiots don’t, is supposed to create equal opportunity for all people, not just the way it’s been where white men have had more opportunities. the idea isn’t to promote people at the expense of other people.

now if you say that we already all have an equal opportunity then you need to explain why if you look at corporate execs the numbers disproportionately skew toward white men. That’s a plain fact.
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The facts are that globally, whites are the minority at only 15% of the world's population. There are reasons why most successful countries and companies are run by whites (and Asians). There are also reasons why blacks dominate in all things athletic and requiring physical superiority. Facts don't care about our feelings. If you force rank races into categories then there will always be ones who fall at the top and ones who end up at the bottom regardless of the topic.
 



Yes, OK. Then HOW do we progress toward a more balanced result? Free handouts (giving the result without work), or equal opportunity to work and earn the result?

I vote the latter. Otherwise, those who gain by entitlement have no incentive to do the work and will lose what they gained.
 






I believe people should be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Too bad the woke EV diversity freaks at AZ prefer people to be judged by their identity.
 



anonymous said:
Promoting DEI candidates at the expense of white men may not be the idea, but that’s EXACTLY what has been going on for over 4 years. ESPECIALLY here at AZ.

Just look at what they did with Project North Star in the OBU. A blind fool can see that DF’s white guilt made them get rid of over a dozen white men over age 50 for no reason other than their age, race and gender. And to compound the misery they made those poor bastards sign away their right to sue, at their most vulnerable moment, in order to keep their health insurance for a few months and to get the severance package.

So spare me what the intent is. And stop living in statistics. DEI has caused real pain and suffering for many, many people who didn’t do anything wrong. If that makes you feel good about DEI and it’s intent, then good for you.
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I love me some DEI
 



anonymous said:
The facts are that globally, whites are the minority at only 15% of the world's population. There are reasons why most successful countries and companies are run by whites (and Asians). There are also reasons why blacks dominate in all things athletic and requiring physical superiority. Facts don't care about our feelings. If you force rank races into categories then there will always be ones who fall at the top and ones who end up at the bottom regardless of the topic.
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and there it is...the misogynist/white supremacist in you was just itching to come out.
There is no data to support your argument that white men are just smarter than everyone else (including white women by the way because they too are excluded by white men). So go home and explain to your daughter/sister/mother/wife/girlfriend that you know, you are just smarter and better than them when it comes to the corporate workplace. Good luck with that convo. LMAO
 



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