Current Pfizer employees suing Pfizer

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Goodbye. How can you be so stupid. Not only will Pfizer get rid of you in the next reduction, but future employers will have a public record that you sued your previous employer.
 




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Goodbye. How can you be so stupid. Not only will Pfizer get rid of you in the next reduction, but future employers will have a public record that you sued your previous employer.
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I only wish that like "John Hancock" I could have signed my name large and bold. I and many others like me did everything in our power to communicate to management that focusing on administration vs developing relationships with clients was a mistake. Advancing those into management who believe this delusion is a disaster. You now have many years of focus on administrative minutiae and complete failure to accomplish the bottom line.....SALES. My only regret was that I had but one "corporate life" to give for my company. I will gladly explanin my position to my future employer....thank you.
 
















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Goodbye. How can you be so stupid. Not only will Pfizer get rid of you in the next reduction, but future employers will have a public record that you sued your previous employer.
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dumb indeed. didn't anyone speak with their own attorney before doing something so stupid ? when you feel you're being wronged, you keep documenting and documenting..then dsome more documenting. consult an attorney during that time so you're documenting the right stuff. then, look for aonther job. then leave your current job. THEN, have your attorney make a phone call or 2 re: your documentation. but ya dont go public while you're still working there. dumb.

next job interview: reason for leaving? oh i sued my employer.

dumb dumb dumb
 




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dumb indeed. didn't anyone speak with their own attorney before doing something so stupid ? when you feel you're being wronged, you keep documenting and documenting..then dsome more documenting. consult an attorney during that time so you're documenting the right stuff. then, look for aonther job. then leave your current job. THEN, have your attorney make a phone call or 2 re: your documentation. but ya dont go public while you're still working there. dumb.

next job interview: reason for leaving? oh i sued my employer.

dumb dumb dumb
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SO you want to hire a lawyer, pay $$ legal fees, while things are being documented? Then have the lawyer make a phone call, which will result in what? Doesn't sound smart to me.

If a person feels wronged - it's his/her right to be heard. And if people want to join a lawsuit - - - - whatever! The amount of time being spent on this issue is amazing....

Who, except for orig plaintiff and lawfirm, really makes money on these? Can a lawsuit with 2000+ angry employees be taken seriously? Really? Ugh
 












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SO you want to hire a lawyer, pay $$ legal fees, while things are being documented? Then have the lawyer make a phone call, which will result in what? Doesn't sound smart to me.

If a person feels wronged - it's his/her right to be heard. And if people want to join a lawsuit - - - - whatever! The amount of time being spent on this issue is amazing....

Who, except for orig plaintiff and lawfirm, really makes money on these? Can a lawsuit with 2000+ angry employees be taken seriously? Really? Ugh
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sure, as an employee you have some rights. but there is no specific "right to be heard". you are simply a factor of production, an expense. you are not an asset to the company. that is just feel-good rhetorical platitude. (hnt: find "employees" or people, or human resources, or sales reps, etc on a balance sheet. you wont find it).

if you think you are being wronged by an employer, then cripes, for heaven's sake, of course you should be documenting it.

you don't sue a current employer unless you really dont need the job and payycheck. it's called CLM: career limiting move.

If people ARE being wronged, AND it if is illegal, then for sure there will be remedies (that's a legal term, look it up). A court will decide on the merit of a lawsuit.

while you say "have a right to be heard", you also have a right to seek legal counsel (oh, maybe a labor attorney perhaps) who will know a LOT more about what your "rights" are on the job than you do.

"right to be heard". ? Where is the Pfizer complaint box or the grievance committee ? Nope, sorry, you dont have that right. You may thnk you do. I dare ya: try airing out yoru grievances with HR. See how fast you'll be out the door.
 




Folks.........this gig is up ! I wouldn't fault any current employees for participating in this lawsuit. It may just be one more bonus added on to the severance that is probably coming our way soon enough.

Please stop pretending there is a job to do here........90 % could be eliminated and the sales wouldn't change. Samples could be sent in the mail and information could be sent in the mail. It would be the same impact as samples being dropped off in person and mailboxes being stuffed with propaganda everyday.

Stop pretending this is a career....it's not. When they kick you to the curb despite all your good intentions, you'll wish your name was on the list too.
 




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Folks.........this gig is up ! I wouldn't fault any current employees for participating in this lawsuit. It may just be one more bonus added on to the severance that is probably coming our way soon enough.

Please stop pretending there is a job to do here........90 % could be eliminated and the sales wouldn't change. Samples could be sent in the mail and information could be sent in the mail. It would be the same impact as samples being dropped off in person and mailboxes being stuffed with propaganda everyday.

Stop pretending this is a career....it's not. When they kick you to the curb despite all your good intentions, you'll wish your name was on the list too.
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One more bonus added? Yeah, that awesome $5 check you'll get if Pfizer settles. If they lose everyone's getting paid whether you signed up for a lawsuit or not.....if you work for pfizer and you signed up for the lawsuit you did so because you are ill-informed and/or stupid. There is no upside.
 












Why would anyone possibly sign something like this? You have just made yourself part of a well-documented and permanent list of LOSERS! I have just found two of my laziest reps on the list. Gonna be hell to pay friends. Enjoy.
 




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Why would anyone possibly sign something like this? You have just made yourself part of a well-documented and permanent list of LOSERS! I have just found two of my laziest reps on the list. Gonna be hell to pay friends. Enjoy.
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When I started working for Pfizer there were two divisions and roughly 800 field sales employees. Most of the reps were ex-pharmacists or prior service (military). Our VP of Sales was a former Marine. We loved the opportunity to bring our customers information about our "best in class" products. The word "LOSERS" was not in our vocabulary. We did not "lie" (or even exaggerate) the data (didn't want to risk our reputation). Most of you would not have lasted two days in that environment. You can be thankful that the expansion (starting with Pratt) diluted the values of the corporation to the cesspool you have today. You can rest assured that the tactics (endorsed by management no less) have led to the demise of the entire pharmaceutical industry. "Jackasses" like youself have no future in business (certainly not management).
 




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When I started working for Pfizer there were two divisions and roughly 800 field sales employees. Most of the reps were ex-pharmacists or prior service (military). Our VP of Sales was a former Marine. We loved the opportunity to bring our customers information about our "best in class" products. The word "LOSERS" was not in our vocabulary. We did not "lie" (or even exaggerate) the data (didn't want to risk our reputation). Most of you would not have lasted two days in that environment. You can be thankful that the expansion (starting with Pratt) diluted the values of the corporation to the cesspool you have today. You can rest assured that the tactics (endorsed by management no less) have led to the demise of the entire pharmaceutical industry. "Jackasses" like youself have no future in business (certainly not management).
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Actually it's pretty well documented and largely a FACT that the demise of this industry started with the selling model of sending out a bunch of "soldiers" to bombard doctors with free shit and buy scripts. Because of that, the government has all but eliminated the ability of anyone to sell anything in the pharma industry....the reality is all these old-timers who think they know how to sell and rive business refuse to acknowledge that, in their day, no creativity and effort was needed to succeed. Call on enough people and spend enough money and you'll get scripts especially when there are no obstacles to writing anything....just look at management now. These are largely ex-sales reps who got to the middle/senior management level based on sales success. Now they run states and regions and are completely lost and clueless.
 




Those who signed this have shown their true hand. They will try to explain why they signed it ......but it won't work. All the B.S that comes out when your with your manager or at the meetings will not offset any current employee who signed this suit. You are now a documented malcontent, don't try to spin it now or talk your way out of it.

Remember.......you are curently suing your employer ! They never like that !
 




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