Compliance Inteview (Urology)

[anonymous]

That's your problem, you don't know. If you were really a rep that's been here from the beginning you would know the first rep and manager that cheated , KP was the rep and CB was the manager. They blatantly cheated and both won a trip and both promoted on cheating. So if you really knew anything you would have known that. I agree CB didn't start this but all management should be fired including MF. I have friends that were fired and not all of them took advantage of anything, it's the company we work for now. Everyone that was interviewed was guilty before they walked in the room, including the managers. They were all treated unfairly, even the ones they kept. We work for a horrible company that doesn't care or want us here anymore, it's time to move on.

Then move on genius. Obviously you're much smarter than anyone else in the room because you have everything figured out. I would bet you aren't working at Allergan currently or if you are, your territory is in shambles because you like to blame your lack of production on everyone else. SCRAM

 

[anonymous]

The interviews are over but the bs will never end after the latest decisions. This genius was right, they want us to quit. You just don't treat people this way, COMPLIANCE REMEMBER KARMA WILL COME BACK TO BITE ALL OF YOU IN YOUR BIG FAT A?? Wait until the latest news comes out, then you tell us we were wrong. Compliance please explain if we are wrong we should be fired and if we are not wrong why the punishment. Oh I know, more to come after the announcements. Yes, I am a genius and everything I have said is correct

 

[anonymous]

What are the latest decisions ? Did they fire anyone new ? Amazing how compliance fires all these reps and is finding out it all came from upper management .. Did LL throw CB under the bus ? Dont worry she is next .... You can't have a war going on and pretend you had no knowledge of what the troops were doing ... LL get your resume out there u are damaged goods Actavis can't wait to replace u with some Forest Robot that will march to Pfizers drum ...

 

[anonymous]

What are the latest decisions ? Did they fire anyone new ? Amazing how compliance fires all these reps and is finding out it all came from upper management .. Did LL throw CB under the bus ? Dont worry she is next .... You can't have a war going on and pretend you had no knowledge of what the troops were doing ... LL get your resume out there u are damaged goods Actavis can't wait to replace u with some Forest Robot that will march to Pfizers drum ...

Chris - gone
Lori - relocated

 

[anonymous]

Lori relocated, my ass. She will be gone in two weeks. I love how they are telling us that she has great options and this is not a surprise. Urology is done, compliance has killed the division, two words for everyone PILL PUSHERS. That's what we will be, they can try to spin it every way possible but they have lied from day one and will continue to lie until we have all pills or no jobs. Lori and Chris maybe you can call the 18 reps you fired and ask them how to fill out those unemployment forms.

 

[anonymous]

Lori relocated, my ass. She will be gone in two weeks. I love how they are telling us that she has great options and this is not a surprise. Urology is done, compliance has killed the division, two words for everyone PILL PUSHERS. That's what we will be, they can try to spin it every way possible but they have lied from day one and will continue to lie until we have all pills or no jobs. Lori and Chris maybe you can call the 18 reps you fired and ask them how to fill out those unemployment forms.

This is the perfect example of a shitty employee.

 

[anonymous]

No I'm not a shitty employee, I work for a shitty company. Just look at the history since we were bought. 18 employees fired most wrongfully fired, then the managers had their punishment which is totally wrong. Then Chris was fired when he did nothing wrong now Lori is being let go as they lie and say it has nothing to do with compliance. She will be out of Allergan in two weeks. We all work for a horrible company that wants us to leave.

 

[anonymous]

What are the latest decisions ? Did they fire anyone new ? Amazing how compliance fires all these reps and is finding out it all came from upper management .. Did LL throw CB under the bus ? Dont worry she is next .... You can't have a war going on and pretend you had no knowledge of what the troops were doing ... LL get your resume out there u are damaged goods Actavis can't wait to replace u with some Forest Robot that will march to Pfizers drum ...

managers guilty of protecting the cheating and each other

 

[anonymous]

I think it is time for us to see the writing was on the wall months ago and it has come full circle ...,, firing everyone is NOT GOOD for us ... Lori was demoted if she stays she is not a VP... We have no one in our corner except actavis who are picking us off the line one at a time ... Foolish to think it will last through the summer .... The uro Botox is 25 million with the fake allocations... There is no way they will pay us long term

 

[anonymous]

100% agree, Lori is demoted but she will take her package and walk away with millions. The problem I have is that Chris and Lori weren't the reason for everything. They actually tried to fix the issues but Actavis has no idea what they are doing. They give the whole Urology team back to the person who started it all MF. Then we reduce the division to 25 million and pay people more then they are bringing into the company, please explain to me how is this makes sense. We keep talking out both sides of our mouths.nwe were told that Rapaflo and Botox makes every territory worth a million dollars so that's how we profit, but now we are not going to have Rapaflo, so please explain to everyone how you keep all of us now. It's always something different, it's hard to cover lie after lie. The writing is on the wall, time to move on

 

[anonymous]

I am sick of being lied to. My manager calls me today and says we are better off that the merger won't happen. Two weeks ago you were not saying this, you would have loved to be working for Pfizer instead of this heartless inhuman company. Remember all the information you told us two weeks ago when they took all your money away. Do you think we forgot when you told us they said you did nothing wrong but they won't pay you, or when you said you were guilty before you walked in a room, or when they took KB trip and money away for doing nothing wrong. They fired 18 reps , upper management CB for doing nothing wrong and told LL you are a piece of garbage and took the whole team from her but we are better off with Asstavis then Pfizer ( Bullshit) . We work for the worst company possible and stop the lies and tell the truth. Plus all of my stock is worth shit. DM , KB, JK and any other manager that has any respect for theirselves will be gone asap and if not how can you look at yourself in the mirror

 

[anonymous]

I am sick of being lied to. My manager calls me today and says we are better off that the merger won't happen. Two weeks ago you were not saying this, you would have loved to be working for Pfizer instead of this heartless inhuman company. Remember all the information you told us two weeks ago when they took all your money away. Do you think we forgot when you told us they said you did nothing wrong but they won't pay you, or when you said you were guilty before you walked in a room, or when they took KB trip and money away for doing nothing wrong. They fired 18 reps , upper management CB for doing nothing wrong and told LL you are a piece of garbage and took the whole team from her but we are better off with Asstavis then Pfizer ( Bullshit) . We work for the worst company possible and stop the lies and tell the truth. Plus all of my stock is worth shit. DM , KB, JK and any other manager that has any respect for theirselves will be gone asap and if not how can you look at yourself in the mirror

Do you know what is wrong with this division? The inability of its employees to distinguish between right and wrong. There is a fundamental ethics problem, and anyone who knows the Actavis attitude toward ethics violators could have seen this coming from a mile away (Warner Chilcott, anyone?). The place was run by immature "leaders" who seemed to think that creating a system that allowed cheating and artificial numbers inflation was the same thing as legitimately building sales.

The original reps and managers created the arbitration and allocation system. Reps who knowingly falsified arbitrations (you know, the ones who would sit down at a nurse's desk and shoot themselves a falsified SPP email from the nurse's account) cheated, period. It wasn't that hard to track SPP in a legitimate way, and it wasn't hard to provide actual, verifiable proof as opposed to a generic email. And allocations? Also easy to be pretty accurate. Sit down with a scheduler, go over a doc's calendar, count the Botox cases and units used, and figure out what percentage of that hospital's business belonged to that doctor. Some people even under-allocated to be on the safe side, knowing the Ponzi scheme couldn't possibly hold forever. And I knew a lot of honest people who were horrified and irritated at the way they were passed in rankings by someone who would send themselves a fat, fake email. Those honest people continue to do their best, hoping the system will finally be made right, and legitimate.

Managers pressured reps to "find" arbitration at the end of the quarter. Reps who said there was no arbitration to "find" were harassed and managed out. Reps who falsified info were promoted into management for their "performance," or they won award trips, even having the gall to give thank you speeches at awards dinners.
Some reps felt pressured to "find" arbitration and did it, even if it was a lie, in order to save their jobs. Many, many other reps left, because it was demotivating to realize that every quarter the cheaters would make far more money than the non-cheaters, and your job would be in jeopardy if you didn't cheat--and they didn't feel right giving in to the pressure to cheat. It just wasn't worth it to stay when you could leave, make the same money, and work for a company whose rankings and payouts were legit.

Now here's the shit of it: not every rep who was fired was guilty of cheating. Actavis, however, didn't care (see their Warner Chilcott actions). That's lousy, considering that cheating managers were able to keep their jobs. And yes, any manager who pressured anyone to "find" arbitration, harassed reps who didn't, and approved false arbitrations and allocations was a cheater. Managers knew the numbers were pure bs for so many reps. That means they were in the wrong, for the ethically impaired among urology division employees.

 

[anonymous]

I am sick of being lied to. My manager calls me today and says we are better off that the merger won't happen. Two weeks ago you were not saying this, you would have loved to be working for Pfizer instead of this heartless inhuman company. Remember all the information you told us two weeks ago when they took all your money away. Do you think we forgot when you told us they said you did nothing wrong but they won't pay you, or when you said you were guilty before you walked in a room, or when they took KB trip and money away for doing nothing wrong. They fired 18 reps , upper management CB for doing nothing wrong and told LL you are a piece of garbage and took the whole team from her but we are better off with Asstavis then Pfizer ( Bullshit) . We work for the worst company possible and stop the lies and tell the truth. Plus all of my stock is worth shit. DM , KB, JK and any other manager that has any respect for theirselves will be gone asap and if not how can you look at yourself in the mirror

Managers are parrots. garbage in, garbage out

 

[anonymous]

Do you know what is wrong with this division? The inability of its employees to distinguish between right and wrong. There is a fundamental ethics problem, and anyone who knows the Actavis attitude toward ethics violators could have seen this coming from a mile away (Warner Chilcott, anyone?). The place was run by immature "leaders" who seemed to think that creating a system that allowed cheating and artificial numbers inflation was the same thing as legitimately building sales.

The original reps and managers created the arbitration and allocation system. Reps who knowingly falsified arbitrations (you know, the ones who would sit down at a nurse's desk and shoot themselves a falsified SPP email from the nurse's account) cheated, period. It wasn't that hard to track SPP in a legitimate way, and it wasn't hard to provide actual, verifiable proof as opposed to a generic email. And allocations? Also easy to be pretty accurate. Sit down with a scheduler, go over a doc's calendar, count the Botox cases and units used, and figure out what percentage of that hospital's business belonged to that doctor. Some people even under-allocated to be on the safe side, knowing the Ponzi scheme couldn't possibly hold forever. And I knew a lot of honest people who were horrified and irritated at the way they were passed in rankings by someone who would send themselves a fat, fake email. Those honest people continue to do their best, hoping the system will finally be made right, and legitimate.

Managers pressured reps to "find" arbitration at the end of the quarter. Reps who said there was no arbitration to "find" were harassed and managed out. Reps who falsified info were promoted into management for their "performance," or they won award trips, even having the gall to give thank you speeches at awards dinners.
Some reps felt pressured to "find" arbitration and did it, even if it was a lie, in order to save their jobs. Many, many other reps left, because it was demotivating to realize that every quarter the cheaters would make far more money than the non-cheaters, and your job would be in jeopardy if you didn't cheat--and they didn't feel right giving in to the pressure to cheat. It just wasn't worth it to stay when you could leave, make the same money, and work for a company whose rankings and payouts were legit.

Now here's the shit of it: not every rep who was fired was guilty of cheating. Actavis, however, didn't care (see their Warner Chilcott actions). That's lousy, considering that cheating managers were able to keep their jobs. And yes, any manager who pressured anyone to "find" arbitration, harassed reps who didn't, and approved false arbitrations and allocations was a cheater. Managers knew the numbers were pure bs for so many reps. That means they were in the wrong, for the ethically impaired among urology division employees.

Ever heard of beating a dead horse? The point isn't that there was or wasn't "cheating" going on. We get it, the house needed to be cleaned. The point is that nothing was improved through the process of gutting the division.

Does anyone else find it interesting that when we finally do away with arbo, they remove the people that worked to get rid of it and give it right back to MF? I wish I was that guy.

 

[anonymous]

No one worked to eliminate arbo. Don't make those clowns to be heroes. Only reason allocations lowered and arbo halted was because Lori and Co.were gonna get caught for approving everything or being stupid for "not knowing" (HA!). Things just heated up to where Lori tossed CB like a rubber ball to save her own ass. Bill M. knows the deal. I'm getting whiplash from looking over my shoulder. This division is fried.

 

[anonymous]

No one worked to eliminate arbo. Don't make those clowns to be heroes. Only reason allocations lowered and arbo halted was because Lori and Co.were gonna get caught for approving everything or being stupid for "not knowing" (HA!). Things just heated up to where Lori tossed CB like a rubber ball to save her own ass. Bill M. knows the deal. I'm getting whiplash from looking over my shoulder. This division is fried.

management are all clowns

 

[anonymous]

Ever heard of beating a dead horse? The point isn't that there was or wasn't "cheating" going on. We get it, the house needed to be cleaned. The point is that nothing was improved through the process of gutting the division.

Does anyone else find it interesting that when we finally do away with arbo, they remove the people that worked to get rid of it and give it right back to MF? I wish I was that guy.

What's wrong? Do you not like hearing the truth? Managers are immature and would not make it as managers at any other company. Think about it- JK as a Pfizer Mgr- I think not. Reps...well, When is the last time you were called to come for a Botox case? What do you do all day along? Time to get resumes ready. We dodged a bullet when the Pfizer deal broke down, but other companies will realize that everyone knows how to do Botox and we are not needed unless they put other sample driven products in our bag.

 

[anonymous]

What's wrong? Do you not like hearing the truth? Managers are immature and would not make it as managers at any other company. Think about it- JK as a Pfizer Mgr- I think not. Reps...well, When is the last time you were called to come for a Botox case? What do you do all day along? Time to get resumes ready. We dodged a bullet when the Pfizer deal broke down, but other companies will realize that everyone knows how to do Botox and we are not needed unless they put other sample driven products in our bag.

I'm sorry, I had to idea you were the authority on maturity. I'm no expert, but my opinion is that you are a douche. At least pick someone more deserving than JK to bash anonymously. He is an extremely hard-working and positive person and last I checked he wasn't trying to be a manager at Pfizer or any other company...

You were right about one thing, YOU are not needed.

 

[anonymous]

I'm sorry, I had to idea you were the authority on maturity. I'm no expert, but my opinion is that you are a douche. At least pick someone more deserving than JK to bash anonymously. He is an extremely hard-working and positive person and last I checked he wasn't trying to be a manager at Pfizer or any other company...

You were right about one thing, YOU are not needed.

Haters hate, trolls ........... Ignoring them is best

 

[anonymous]

What's wrong? Do you not like hearing the truth? Managers are immature and would not make it as managers at any other company. Think about it- JK as a Pfizer Mgr- I think not. Reps...well, When is the last time you were called to come for a Botox case? What do you do all day along? Time to get resumes ready. We dodged a bullet when the Pfizer deal broke down, but other companies will realize that everyone knows how to do Botox and we are not needed unless they put other sample driven products in our bag.

I agree with you that many don't want to hear the truth but asking what we do all day & when was the last time anyone was called for a case is confusing. I'm very busy opening up new business, growing current business by asking to find more patients, attending cases for new accounts or surg techs, handling Rapaflo BS, etc. Not enough hours in the day actually so I'm not sure who you are or what you do all day but you're clearly not a uro rep or a crappy one if so. If you think you've exhausted all new business, you are in the wrong job because their are so many patients out there that need 3rd line therapy. You need to go sell a prescription pill as this is not the right sales position for you.