Compliance Inteview (Urology)

[anonymous]

We know your a middle of the pack type of rep. You are not in Mexico and never have been. Just think 16 reps went out of 80 and they removed 9 from the compliance investigation so they took the top 25 and you are not one of the. So keep dreaming about the 100k which you will never smell. Like I told you before you will and always have been middle of the road type of rep. That's why you are satisfied at Asstavis, you don't have to bust your ass and work 20 hours a week and except a decent bonus. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Just don't lie and say your killing yourself. We all know we don't work hard and we all make up calls and see about 10 offices a week. Make sure you take advantage of Asstavis and don't let them take advantage of you. We are all a number and they don't care about any of us, just ask Lori, Chris, Dave, Kate, Rob, Brad, Mark, Matt, Jeff and 18 reps.[/QUOTE

AC, haven't you found another job? Shouldn't you be looking for one rather than trolling on here?? Let it go, dude. Let it go. Just wasn't meant to be. I know you got used to that free trip every year but don't take it out on the hard-working fellows that don't cheat their way to the top. Go figure out your next scam & leave good people alone.

 

[anonymous]

I got bit on the ass. I turned around and it was MY dog! I knew I should NOT have named her Karma.

 

[anonymous]

This Thread is getting old. We need some fresh incite from managers and reps that have left for better companies.
It doesn't seem like the grass is always greener but I have talked with a few reps and managers that think they ended up on the up side of things.Mostly going to smaller Biotech where they can be celebrated for their efforts.And, as it turns out,doing better financially then at Actevis.Lets face it,none of us are feeling good about what were doing here.We can stay until they show us the door but who knows how long that will be.I am looking at every opportunity and there are a lot of them.I hope that all the managers and reps that have left have bright futures and hopefully they can help me out in the future.
So lets hear from some of the people that have left.I know you are all on here from time to time.Whats it like on the outside?

 

[anonymous]

Gone a year now and couldn't be happier! Biotech job. 30k raise in base and 65k target comp at plan so there is more upside for over performance. Valued for my input and have already helped the company grow significantly. Sorry you guys are still suffering over there. It never hurts to find out what your worth. Only consolation is the leadership change. MF is a good leader and will hopefully make life a little more bearable for those remaining. Heard the old NSD is calling some of the 18 who were let go looking for a job. Obviously Irony has a sense of humor!

 

[anonymous]

HR can put another notch in their headboard. KA and JW are terminators

 

[anonymous]

HR can put another notch in their headboard. KA and JW are terminators

?????

 

[anonymous]

I don't get it. Everyone on this board was so positive and when people were telling the truth about how bad the company was and how they were treating everyone, all of the employees were ripping us and telling us we are all liars. I remember all the people who were let go deserved it. What's the big change, please explain. Everyone involved with this company will experience it one way or another. I am friends with many of the employees gone and I would have to say they did land on their feet with better opportunities then Asstavis . I don't understand how this company gets away with everything they have done, it has to be illegal. They did it to many other companies and now it's Allergans time. Say what ever you like about Marc F. But he can't change what's going on, he will be a puppet . BM is the head of this shit show and he doesn't care about anyone, we thought he was close to LL and look how he treated her

 

[anonymous]

I interview when opportunities come but the truth is it's not easy to find smaller territories with the kind of salary we're making & now retention bonuses & lowering quotas appropriately make it even harder to leave. It seems every company has it's "issues" & the grass certainly is not always greener. Whenever I get really into considering another option the travel is more than they originally state or bonus is never what's promised so why not ride it as long as you can?? This industry sucks no matter where you go. Trade one problem for a different one. There is no perfect job anymore. It's a sad reality.

 

[anonymous]

The middle-of-the-pack people are the ones who are legitimately performing. Idiots like you are the reason this division is a joke, and you deserve to be fired. Being a shameless cheater is not the same as "kicking ass." Being a shameless cheater is just being a shameless cheater. Some people (like you) are willing to sacrifice integrity for cash. Others are not, and frankly, those are the people I respect.

Amen. So sick of the person/people on here saying "my manager made me do it, everybody cheats who's smart, blah blah blah". No one respects you & not everybody lives by your unethical code of conduct. Agree with above post & find it comical that these losers think they're so great.

 

[anonymous]

I'm still here and this is the issue. You think everyone that was let go was cheating, you are wrong. The problem is that the company put everyone in the same bucket when they all did something different. There were people who did cheat without their managers knowing then there was people who did cheat but I know for a fact that their managers forced them to. Last there was people who didn't cheat at all who were fired. So stop saying everyone was cheating because you have no idea what your talking about. There are people that wanted to remove allocations that their managers or upper management said no, are they cheating. Then there are peopl today that still have allocations that are way off should they be fired. So if all the reps that were fired were cheating tell me why every manager was punished. Oh I know why, because it was the system that the company had. Stop putting the blame on the reps , managers or management because it's not their fault. It's the companies system and not one person was allowed to question it or try to fix it because you were shot down and then upper management would let you know on the side shut up or leave. You most likely were not here when Urology started from what you have said so you are really out of the loop and are wrong with many of your thoughts.

 

[anonymous]

I interview when opportunities come but the truth is it's not easy to find smaller territories with the kind of salary we're making & now retention bonuses & lowering quotas appropriately make it even harder to leave. It seems every company has it's "issues" & the grass certainly is not always greener. Whenever I get really into considering another option the travel is more than they originally state or bonus is never what's promised so why not ride it as long as you can?? This industry sucks no matter where you go. Trade one problem for a different one. There is no perfect job anymore. It's a sad reality.

You've succumbed to Stockholm Syndrome. Yes. The grass IS greener 99% of the places you can go. Even if it's a bigger territory or theoretical less bonus. You will never attain your full bonus every quarter here. You will never be treated like a valued professional here. Yes other Companies have their problems but not like this place. It's like comparing an abusoce spouse to a normal marriage and saying 'every relationship has its problems'
Keep doing what you are doing and leave before they take your soul

 

[anonymous]

interesting. KP went out on medical leave, but has started a new job.

 

[anonymous]

Do you know what is wrong with this division? The inability of its employees to distinguish between right and wrong. There is a fundamental ethics problem, and anyone who knows the Actavis attitude toward ethics violators could have seen this coming from a mile away (Warner Chilcott, anyone?). The place was run by immature "leaders" who seemed to think that creating a system that allowed cheating and artificial numbers inflation was the same thing as legitimately building sales.

The original reps and managers created the arbitration and allocation system. Reps who knowingly falsified arbitrations (you know, the ones who would sit down at a nurse's desk and shoot themselves a falsified SPP email from the nurse's account) cheated, period. It wasn't that hard to track SPP in a legitimate way, and it wasn't hard to provide actual, verifiable proof as opposed to a generic email. And allocations? Also easy to be pretty accurate. Sit down with a scheduler, go over a doc's calendar, count the Botox cases and units used, and figure out what percentage of that hospital's business belonged to that doctor. Some people even under-allocated to be on the safe side, knowing the Ponzi scheme couldn't possibly hold forever. And I knew a lot of honest people who were horrified and irritated at the way they were passed in rankings by someone who would send themselves a fat, fake email. Those honest people continue to do their best, hoping the system will finally be made right, and legitimate.

Managers pressured reps to "find" arbitration at the end of the quarter. Reps who said there was no arbitration to "find" were harassed and managed out. Reps who falsified info were promoted into management for their "performance," or they won award trips, even having the gall to give thank you speeches at awards dinners.
Some reps felt pressured to "find" arbitration and did it, even if it was a lie, in order to save their jobs. Many, many other reps left, because it was demotivating to realize that every quarter the cheaters would make far more money than the non-cheaters, and your job would be in jeopardy if you didn't cheat--and they didn't feel right giving in to the pressure to cheat. It just wasn't worth it to stay when you could leave, make the same money, and work for a company whose rankings and payouts were legit.

Now here's the shit of it: not every rep who was fired was guilty of cheating. Actavis, however, didn't care (see their Warner Chilcott actions). That's lousy, considering that cheating managers were able to keep their jobs. And yes, any manager who pressured anyone to "find" arbitration, harassed reps who didn't, and approved false arbitrations and allocations was a cheater. Managers knew the numbers were pure bs for so many reps. That means they were in the wrong, for the ethically impaired among urology division employees.

AMEN.

 

[anonymous]

I want everyone here still with our company to remember how this division was treated. We have great managers who did nothing wrong get punished for no reason. They dragged managers through the mud for seven long weeks and told them we are going to punish you by taking money but a different amount for every single manager, why the managers ask and what they get, ( no response). Then we will not promote DM and KB will not be allowed to go on the trip which she deserved. They push CB out for what, following the rules that the company made. Then 18 reps were let go, some deserved it some did not. It's not why they were let go but how. No package not even their commission checks which they worked for. I just want everyone who is still here to remember how we were all treated. Everyone of us had a friend who was mistreated, but now we should all forgive and forget. As long as Bill Meury is the boss I will never give this company one extra minute of myself. They don't deserve it and I will say this, Actavis you are not getting over on me - I am getting over on you. I will take advantage of you every single day until you throw me on the street. You pay me a nice salary but I will never forget

 

[anonymous]

I want everyone here still with our company to remember how this division was treated. We have great managers who did nothing wrong get punished for no reason. They dragged managers through the mud for seven long weeks and told them we are going to punish you by taking money but a different amount for every single manager, why the managers ask and what they get, ( no response). Then we will not promote DM and KB will not be allowed to go on the trip which she deserved. They push CB out for what, following the rules that the company made. Then 18 reps were let go, some deserved it some did not. It's not why they were let go but how. No package not even their commission checks which they worked for. I just want everyone who is still here to remember how we were all treated. Everyone of us had a friend who was mistreated, but now we should all forgive and forget. As long as Bill Meury is the boss I will never give this company one extra minute of myself. They don't deserve it and I will say this, Actavis you are not getting over on me - I am getting over on you. I will take advantage of you every single day until you throw me on the street. You pay me a nice salary but I will never forget

Please get over yourself and move on

 

[anonymous]

Will never move on and if you did you are an asshole. We are talking about families , friends and loved ones and if you don't give a shit go FYourself. You can honestly say there isn't one person you know or care for that was mistreated. Secondly how would you feel if your son was let go with no pay and had to support his family or your daughter was stuck in a room when some fat piece of shit was trying to scare her until she broke down in tears. So FYou

 

[anonymous]

Can I give you a hug?

 

[anonymous]

I want everyone here still with our company to remember how this division was treated. We have great managers who did nothing wrong get punished for no reason. They dragged managers through the mud for seven long weeks and told them we are going to punish you by taking money but a different amount for every single manager, why the managers ask and what they get, ( no response). Then we will not promote DM and KB will not be allowed to go on the trip which she deserved. They push CB out for what, following the rules that the company made. Then 18 reps were let go, some deserved it some did not. It's not why they were let go but how. No package not even their commission checks which they worked for. I just want everyone who is still here to remember how we were all treated. Everyone of us had a friend who was mistreated, but now we should all forgive and forget. As long as Bill Meury is the boss I will never give this company one extra minute of myself. They don't deserve it and I will say this, Actavis you are not getting over on me - I am getting over on you. I will take advantage of you every single day until you throw me on the street. You pay me a nice salary but I will never forget

Why the drama? What's done is done. People cheated and you are probably one of them trying to perpetuate the drama. Time to look forward, not back.

 

[anonymous]

I want everyone here still with our company to remember how this division was treated. We have great managers who did nothing wrong get punished for no reason. They dragged managers through the mud for seven long weeks and told them we are going to punish you by taking money but a different amount for every single manager, why the managers ask and what they get, ( no response). Then we will not promote DM and KB will not be allowed to go on the trip which she deserved. They push CB out for what, following the rules that the company made. Then 18 reps were let go, some deserved it some did not. It's not why they were let go but how. No package not even their commission checks which they worked for. I just want everyone who is still here to remember how we were all treated. Everyone of us had a friend who was mistreated, but now we should all forgive and forget. As long as Bill Meury is the boss I will never give this company one extra minute of myself. They don't deserve it and I will say this, Actavis you are not getting over on me - I am getting over on you. I will take advantage of you every single day until you throw me on the street. You pay me a nice salary but I will never forget

Compliance my butt crack....Remember crap rolls down from the top. Thanks Brett S and all of his crooked cronies. Maybe it's time to call the feds in ( OIG, IRS, SEC, etc) and see what they say about the BS. Also I would recommend calling some lawyers and become a whistleblower on the actions of this lousy company.

 

[anonymous]

I am not one of them. Did Dave Messina, Kate Bergen, Jeff Kerr and Lori Lyons cheat? If so please explain how. If not please explain how they can be punished. I know at least 10 of the reps that were let go did not cheat, one of them took vials out of their Arbo, took less money than account did. Please explain how that was cheating. You are naive and dumb and have no idea what your talking about. I want you to answer how everyone I mentioned was cheating