There has got to be some kind of legal recourse here... So ridiculous! Essentially we are allowing this company to have an interest free loan on OUR money. Ventiv could care less about it's people, it's all about profits, always has been and always will be. But, there has to be a way for employees to get what is owed to them... Isn't there a clause in the employee handbook that states the time of payout?? Why aren't more people angry about this bullshit?
First of all, regarding Q1 bonus, does anyone buy that BMS JUST gave inVentiv the calls per day data, etc? When they are constantly running reports throughout the quarter on that stuff, not to mention BMS reps were paid well over a month ago and no problem figuring all THEIR data. This is so wrong.
Secondly, most believe this contract is done Sept. 30th, at least for most... What are the rumors or thoughts on when that will officially be announced? Wondering if we'll be in the field all of September or if they'll announce it early. Shouldn't we get 30 days notice?
Also, at this point, they're going to owe us 3 bonuses... HOW will this play out?!
They dont have to give us any notice. They can tell us the week before if they choose. Its just one of the many shitty parts of a contract. I would hope they pay us out all three bonuses. We would just a check after the contract ended for Q2 and Q3 but they dont HAVE to pay it out.
How is it they don't HAVE to pay it out?? I don't believe that. Obviously this is an unethical and unprofessional company, but not paying us those bonuses at all would be illegal I think. If we leave on our own accord, I know the IC plan states they don't have to pay us, but if they end the contract they do.
I am a good rep and I have worked hard to drive sales, but why should I anymore??? This is beyond ridiculous. Do the BMS DMs get this AT ALL? No. You just have to put on the happy face and pretend everything's terrific.
Look, I agree with you as well. They should pay us our full bonus. I, however, have worked contract before with another cso and was told that if the contract ends.....they technically dont have to pay us anything since we are not employed. Its effed up I know but we all signed on to this.
It seems in today's world the only way to get pharma companies to do anyting is to file a lawsuit. We wouldn't have a chance of winning a case concerning the bonus payout because Inventiv had their lawyers cover them in our hiring agreements. Essentially, they aren't required to pay us bonus money. It would be the moral and ethical thing to do but... Not the most profitable.
So, we could do what all of the other pharma reps are doing that have been fucked-over by pharma companies... sue them for over time pay. All but 1 case has been won by the reps. Its kinda like convicting Capone for tax evasion when he murdered hundreds of people. They won't go down for being unethical, lying bastards but... they'll still go down.
