Being forced to room with someone at meetings is so degrading and dehumanizing

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Sadly, there are still some very smart people at this company. They're handcuffed and in chains because of the multiple CIA agreements (the sins of a few=sacrifice of all lawyer driven mentality) and they're held in check by people above them who are ass kissers and complete frauds (intimidated my those who actually carry themselves well and know their shit). Thee was a time in corporate america when the sky actually was the limit, now basically every fortune 500 company is cluttered with the detritus of internal bickering, scathing, toxic politics, excessive oversight, and the repression of innovative ideas. Oh, and the roommate thing is the outer ring of what circles the drain. All major companies do it.
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Please give us a source from an article from a reputable business magazine that substantiates your claim that every Fortune 500 company has the same problems we do. I mean, not that having an MBA from a top tier school guarantees excellence, but COME ON!
We have no management development process and we only promote from within. That means we're stuck with the detritus left over from the mass departures (mostly involuntary) of the past 6 years.
I mean, have you ever really talked to a Pfizer sales Regional Manager, Sales Director, or President, or looked that at their credentials? And what the heck is this MBA in Pharmaceutical Marketing crap? Does anyone really wanna know what the rest of the world thinks of THAT BS degree? Whats next, MBA in DTC Marketing?
We're a laughingstock, a joke. Thats why Fortune magazine, only a decade or so away from awarding Pfizer "Most Admired Company", now shows our stinky poo-poo undies to the world. Now, after the next cut, when people see our resume with 14 years of Pfizer on it, instead of looking forward to bringing us in, they'll remember the article and alllll of the comments that hit the 'Net in response. GREAT!
This whole "room mate" conversation is proof that we are doomed, because its obvious that this field force is loaded with a sense of entitlement. "29 times a week, we belch out marketing messages for products that have been on the market for over 15 years. We DESERVE single rooms, dammit!"
 




Nobody should ever have to share a room with another working colleague, except in the military. It's fairly simple. You people that think it's fine are probably fine with your company or the government microchipping you. You're insane and un-american. Get cured.

As for leadership at Pfizer, all I see are a bunch of dickheads being promoted because Pfizer only promotes those who beg to be in management. From my vast experience and wisdom, anyone who pursues the management of other people are usually the last people on earth who should be in those positions. And almost every book i've ever read on the subject supports my theory.

If you can't understand, just imagine those little ROTC college pricks who begged to become officers as soon as they graduated from college during vietnam. Many were shot in the back by their own men literally. Maybe we need some of that here, figuratively speaking of course.

Until they stop promoting these power hungry beggars to leadership positions, it'll only get worse.
 




Anonymous said:
Nobody should ever have to share a room with another working colleague, except in the military. It's fairly simple. You people that think it's fine are probably fine with your company or the government microchipping you. You're insane and un-american. Get cured.

As for leadership at Pfizer, all I see are a bunch of dickheads being promoted because Pfizer only promotes those who beg to be in management. From my vast experience and wisdom, anyone who pursues the management of other people are usually the last people on earth who should be in those positions. And almost every book i've ever read on the subject supports my theory.

If you can't understand, just imagine those little ROTC college pricks who begged to become officers as soon as they graduated from college during vietnam. Many were shot in the back by their own men literally. Maybe we need some of that here, figuratively speaking of course.

Until they stop promoting these power hungry beggars to leadership positions, it'll only get worse.
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Its too late. The core is rotten, so the whole fruit has to be discarded. The majority of current SVPs and Senior Directors were put into place by cronyism, so what do you think that they do when they're looking for direct reports? They just bring in "their" kind of people. No screening, no formal training and development processes. Just 1 or 2 B.S. interviews, and then...instant manager!
 




Anonymous said:
Its too late. The core is rotten, so the whole fruit has to be discarded. The majority of current SVPs and Senior Directors were put into place by cronyism, so what do you think that they do when they're looking for direct reports? They just bring in "their" kind of people. No screening, no formal training and development processes. Just 1 or 2 B.S. interviews, and then...instant manager!
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Displaced King legacy rep here. Thanks for the vibrant exchange on this thread. Laughing is good medicine. Looking for a job is going to be tough, but oh well. My short stint at Pfizer was "interesting" and though I badly want a job, I won't miss this company. I had a phone screen with a DM last week and had to remind which job I was seeking. When I asked him how to improve interviewing for the future, he told me to share a certain success story and really differentiate myself from others because it impressed him. And he was serious and sincere. Problem is - it wasn't my success story. It was like a scene straight out of "The Office". I just chuckled and hang up my cell.
 




I show the hotel clerk at check-in my card from The Department of Homeland Security certifyng my flatus as a WMD, and inform them that I just finished eating a pound of broccoli. Gets me a single every time.
 




Anonymous said:
I show the hotel clerk at check-in my card from The Department of Homeland Security certifyng my flatus as a WMD, and inform them that I just finished eating a pound of broccoli. Gets me a single every time.
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You might consider cracking a few sweet ones for the hotel clerk as well. Hope there's not a line behind you.
 




Anonymous said:
Displaced King legacy rep here. Thanks for the vibrant exchange on this thread. Laughing is good medicine. Looking for a job is going to be tough, but oh well. My short stint at Pfizer was "interesting" and though I badly want a job, I won't miss this company. I had a phone screen with a DM last week and had to remind which job I was seeking. When I asked him how to improve interviewing for the future, he told me to share a certain success story and really differentiate myself from others because it impressed him. And he was serious and sincere. Problem is - it wasn't my success story. It was like a scene straight out of "The Office". I just chuckled and hang up my cell.
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Coming from PD over to Pfizer 10+ years ago was like jumping from a jacuzzi to an ice bath. Managers were awful, across the board. The stories that I could tell of what we experienced, oh my gosh! Many of us that wanted to keep our jobs resigned within months after meeting our new Pfizer RMs.
When I heard that my RM got terminated a few years ago, I was only surprised in that it took so long.
Next subject: this roomate chain has me laughing, but for different reasons that most of the posters. I'm laughing because I cant wait to hear from the "I want my own woom or I'm gonna hold my bweath until I turn wed" whiners in another year or so. Just a few more months of the good life, and then.....C'YA!
 




Anonymous said:
My room mate at the last POA left his dirty skidmark underwear in the bathroom. I did not know it so when I had some friends to stop by one of them found them and thought they were mine. I was so embarrassed.
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Depents what kind were on the floor. Since they had skidmarks I can only assume they were tighty whities? Am I correct? LOL
 








Anonymous said:
You should have put them on his pillow with a mint in the middle of the skidmark. If he wants to show them off, hell let's show them off bigtime!
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Just get up in the middle of the night and piss on your roommate. I guarantee you'll get your own rooms after that gets reported.

Claim you sleepwalk.

Then both of you sue pfizer for forcing you to sleep together on a mandatory business trip. They deserve it.
 




Anonymous said:
I definitely believe you have an HR background, as you operate from the assumption that giving people single rooms leads to a caligula-like setting of moral depravity and extra marital debauchery. Not true at all. There's nothing wrong with letting people have some personal space at meetings and training. You're trying to use an analogy of misbehavior to try and justify making a policy that assumes everyone will partake in wrongdoing of some kind. As for the company and the industry getting way too big 10 years ago, that's what the market dictated and no one is to blame for taking the jobs that were made available in that business model, flawed as it was. I am equally appalled at the behavior and professionalism I've seen by reps and DM's over the years. I guarantee you that a company full of lawyers, bankers and chiropractors working as reps would have its share of bad apples too. I also believe that the company would function better as a whole if people were not forced to cohabitate at company functions
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Seriously, who has not cheated on their spouse? Can you name one person? I can't...and the ones that act innocent are the worst.
 




Anonymous said:
Coming from PD over to Pfizer 10+ years ago was like jumping from a jacuzzi to an ice bath. Managers were awful, across the board. The stories that I could tell of what we experienced, oh my gosh! Many of us that wanted to keep our jobs resigned within months after meeting our new Pfizer RMs.
When I heard that my RM got terminated a few years ago, I was only surprised in that it took so long.
Next subject: this roomate chain has me laughing, but for different reasons that most of the posters. I'm laughing because I cant wait to hear from the "I want my own woom or I'm gonna hold my bweath until I turn wed" whiners in another year or so. Just a few more months of the good life, and then.....C'YA!
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I'll bet a good percentage of the posters on here (when this chain first started) whining about needing a single room are gone. And probably, so are their SDs and RMs.
 












Last POA my roomate was a stalker she wanted to follow me everywhere I went. I was trying to meet a manager in his room. When she went to the bathroom I ran outta the room. I went to his room. We hooked up on the conference room table. It was pretty hot. He wasn't my manager but another district. He was married and I'm single so I never told anybody this story. Anyway, after that he would give me all the test and answers for every exam. I think every body should hook up with a manager. Its worth the perks....
 












I think the DM, Regionals, and all home office people at the meeting should be placed in different rooms with reps to better develop teamwork through the whole organization. I am sure sales leadership will want to demonstrate that there is a great opportunity to brain storm and share success stories when you are stuck two to a room. I can see the synergy forming already!! Wo wants to be the first DM to step up and take up this initiative?
 




Anonymous said:
I think the DM, Regionals, and all home office people at the meeting should be placed in different rooms with reps to better develop teamwork through the whole organization. I am sure sales leadership will want to demonstrate that there is a great opportunity to brain storm and share success stories when you are stuck two to a room. I can see the synergy forming already!! Wo wants to be the first DM to step up and take up this initiative?
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never happen
 




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