Atlanta Neuroscience team in a living hell.

[anonymous]

The new ABL is driving everyone crazy with his micromanaging. Many of us are looking to leave before we launch. Who would hire such an inexperienced person for a specialty sales force.

 

[anonymous]

I hear this dude is nuts. My friend on the team is interviewing to get out.

 

[anonymous]

It is the division. Many on both teams trying to get out.

 

[anonymous]

It is the division. Many on both teams trying to get out.

The South is the worst with the new ABL. I can't take another week of this guy.

 

[anonymous]

The South is the worst with the new ABL. I can't take another week of this guy.

That regional from New Jersey??

 

[anonymous]

That regional from New Jersey??

Don't know him what is the feedback. I am in the West.

 

[anonymous]

If you are an ABL and you end up w/ a thread on CafePharma let's face it, Legal and HR needs to at minimum investigate you. Where there is smoke there is fire and in this litigious society it's to easy to get an Esq. to at least back a letter of notice to the ABL, RM and NVS and let NVS sort it out instead of the Rep being put on the spot. If this would happen more often you would see more ABLs acting like adults instead of 40 year old brats.

 

[anonymous]

If you are an ABL and you end up w/ a thread on CafePharma let's face it, Legal and HR needs to at minimum investigate you. Where there is smoke there is fire and in this litigious society it's to easy to get an Esq. to at least back a letter of notice to the ABL, RM and NVS and let NVS sort it out instead of the Rep being put on the spot. If this would happen more often you would see more ABLs acting like adults instead of 40 year old brats.

OH PUHHHHHLLEEEZEEEE.
This is an anonymous board. Get over yourself. As long as it's all copacetic, it's fine.

 

[anonymous]

If you are an ABL and you end up w/ a thread on CafePharma let's face it, Legal and HR needs to at minimum investigate you. Where there is smoke there is fire and in this litigious society it's to easy to get an Esq. to at least back a letter of notice to the ABL, RM and NVS and let NVS sort it out instead of the Rep being put on the spot. If this would happen more often you would see more ABLs acting like adults instead of 40 year old brats.

100% agree. How about the ABL who are discussed numerous times and over a time frame of many years. That is a big red flag and the ABL still has a job.This proves to me that NVS is not afraid of rep lawsuits.

 

[anonymous]

100% agree. How about the ABL who are discussed numerous times and over a time frame of many years. That is a big red flag and the ABL still has a job.This proves to me that NVS is not afraid of rep lawsuits.

It's not they are not afraid of them, it is that they happen after the fact, after the rep is canned and everything is falsified documented by the ABL and the rep is gone and has to go on the Defense.. As a Rep you have to go on the Offense then watch NVS perk up. Once you are gone, unless you have some serious evidence you are wasting your time w/ Esqs. You have to turn the tables on them immediately.

 

[anonymous]

OH PUHHHHHLLEEEZEEEE.
This is an anonymous board. Get over yourself. As long as it's all copacetic, it's fine.

Me no speakie confusion...What the hell is your point??? In english please. You mutter Anonymous, Get over yourself and copacetic? That's like 3 different thoughts and paragraphs none of it fits together. Clear, concise thoughts please.

 

[anonymous]

This is about the horrible ABL in Atlanta nothing else. He should be put back to primary now he has no experience. Two reps on the team were ready to be managers and they were passed over.

 

[anonymous]

This is about the horrible ABL in Atlanta nothing else. He should be put back to primary now he has no experience. Two reps on the team were ready to be managers and they were passed over.

That's terrible and have seen this happen many times. I wonder who his daddy is or is related to in HQ? The reps that got passed over will probably leave and take their experience else where it will be valued. NVS is a sickening environment.

 

[anonymous]

Wonder if he's a GOB from Meds (check out Meda's cafepharma thread). If So, that's how he was hired.

 

[anonymous]

Wonder if he's a GOB from Meds (check out Meda's cafepharma thread). If So, that's how he was hired.

Meda, not Meds

 

[anonymous]

The Meda cafepharma posts are very interesting about the GOB's. KC was one of those GOB's I heard.

 

[anonymous]

The Meda cafepharma posts are very interesting about the GOB's. KC was one of those GOB's I heard.

Ken C is at Novartis not Meda. Couldn't get a new job if he wasn't good.

 

[anonymous]

Ken C is at Novartis not Meda. Couldn't get a new job if he wasn't good.

First off, we've all known or heard of nightmare managers that move from co to co. Just cuz you can snow a new co simply means you're a good BSer. Ken C. WAS at Meda for many many years and has quite the reputation there. Talk to someone whose actually known him for more than a couple of months.

Btw, Thanks, Ken, for all the replies saying what a great guy you are.

Getting back to the Atlanta nightmare manager, find out if he came to Novartis via Meda and if so, that will explain exactly how he got hired.

 

[anonymous]

First off, we've all known or heard of nightmare managers that move from co to co. Just cuz you can snow a new co simply means you're a good BSer. Ken C. WAS at Meda for many many years and has quite the reputation there. Talk to someone whose actually known him for more than a couple of months.

Btw, Thanks, Ken, for all the replies saying what a great guy you are.

Getting back to the Atlanta nightmare manager, find out if he came to Novartis via Meda and if so, that will explain exactly how he got hired.

You are right....2 sides to KC.

 

[anonymous]

You are right....2 sides to KC.

The guys wants to know every time you piss and get gas. I have accepted an offer and will be leaving in 3 weeks. To bad I like it here but I won't be treated like a primary care rep.