Any thoughts/opinions on Taylor, Nick and others jumping ship???

Quote
Anonymous said:
So many Shire reps thinking about going to Supernus? Too bad they wont take you unless you qualify to be an manager- want to cover multiple states- hire reps from Cintas and Enterprise- and teach them how to memorize a script. Good luck to all of those reps who want to leave. The grass is always greener on the other side right? I think the grass is greener where you water it. Im watering mine here at Shire. i have seen almost all positive changes in the last year.
Click to expand...

"Almost all positive changes" except for the stock price. You stay here, I'm going to supernus to make some real money.
 
















































You do understand that the purpose of the script is to have message consistency? How many messages do you think we are delivering with customer based selling. All of our reps are doing their own thing. I can't believe that the marketing group has allowed this to go on for this long. Vyvanse has screwed up many things, but key selling messages are not included. They are only asking us to position Vyvanse for efficacy and long acting duration. Instead, our sales force is out here playing 20 questions with physicians. We lack the discipline and fundamentals that made us successful. But who cares, at least we can wear our college sweatshirts and get drunk at meetings, right?
 
























All of you great minds that keep putting these gentleman down for going to a new company shows how lacking you are in financial wealth building. Let's see, if you have been here over the last 3 years and have gotten CE each year you would have about 1500 shares at the most. They would have been given to you at an average strick price of $72. If the stock will just stay at $90, that is in real question, you will make 90-72=$18 x 1500= a grand total $27,000 before taxes leaving you return of $15,000 after tax profit for 3 years work.
The 4 gentlemen on board now, at the other company started with 50,000 shares with a strike price of $5 each. It has already traded as high as $15 a share with only a tentative approval. When they just get one of the products approved the financial fundamentals show a jump to $27/share. So let's do their math, $27-5=22 x 50,000 shares=$1,100,000. Can you see they made a good decision. Are they the ones that are dumb and taking on too much risk? Are you paying attention to the risk you now have at Shire????????
For those in the ZD, ASD and higher -ups that make fun of people going to Supernous they are crying out great pain of jealousy because none of them will ever get a job like Taylor or Nick and that makes them sick. The shire people don't want you to ever learn about the possible millionaires that will be made in a small company.
Enjoy those 200 shares each year with a $10 gain and when you retire at 96 you can enjoy life too as a millionaire.
Be carefull of what you say on here because it can make you appear very uninformed about how the world really is played. Some one will say to you at the end of you career, thanks for playing but you must go home.
 






Anonymous said:
All of you great minds that keep putting these gentleman down for going to a new company shows how lacking you are in financial wealth building. Let's see, if you have been here over the last 3 years and have gotten CE each year you would have about 1500 shares at the most. They would have been given to you at an average strick price of $72. If the stock will just stay at $90, that is in real question, you will make 90-72=$18 x 1500= a grand total $27,000 before taxes leaving you return of $15,000 after tax profit for 3 years work.
The 4 gentlemen on board now, at the other company started with 50,000 shares with a strike price of $5 each. It has already traded as high as $15 a share with only a tentative approval. When they just get one of the products approved the financial fundamentals show a jump to $27/share. So let's do their math, $27-5=22 x 50,000 shares=$1,100,000. Can you see they made a good decision. Are they the ones that are dumb and taking on too much risk? Are you paying attention to the risk you now have at Shire????????
For those in the ZD, ASD and higher -ups that make fun of people going to Supernous they are crying out great pain of jealousy because none of them will ever get a job like Taylor or Nick and that makes them sick. The shire people don't want you to ever learn about the possible millionaires that will be made in a small company.
Enjoy those 200 shares each year with a $10 gain and when you retire at 96 you can enjoy life too as a millionaire.
Be carefull of what you say on here because it can make you appear very uninformed about how the world really is played. Some one will say to you at the end of you career, thanks for playing but you must go home.
Click to expand...

Awesome post. I would like to add that only a few actually receive CEs, what about most of the reps/RDs that get a CM???

It's even worse.
 






Anonymous said:
All of you great minds that keep putting these gentleman down for going to a new company shows how lacking you are in financial wealth building. Let's see, if you have been here over the last 3 years and have gotten CE each year you would have about 1500 shares at the most. They would have been given to you at an average strick price of $72. If the stock will just stay at $90, that is in real question, you will make 90-72=$18 x 1500= a grand total $27,000 before taxes leaving you return of $15,000 after tax profit for 3 years work.
The 4 gentlemen on board now, at the other company started with 50,000 shares with a strike price of $5 each. It has already traded as high as $15 a share with only a tentative approval. When they just get one of the products approved the financial fundamentals show a jump to $27/share. So let's do their math, $27-5=22 x 50,000 shares=$1,100,000. Can you see they made a good decision. Are they the ones that are dumb and taking on too much risk? Are you paying attention to the risk you now have at Shire????????
For those in the ZD, ASD and higher -ups that make fun of people going to Supernous they are crying out great pain of jealousy because none of them will ever get a job like Taylor or Nick and that makes them sick. The shire people don't want you to ever learn about the possible millionaires that will be made in a small company.
Enjoy those 200 shares each year with a $10 gain and when you retire at 96 you can enjoy life too as a millionaire.
Be carefull of what you say on here because it can make you appear very uninformed about how the world really is played. Some one will say to you at the end of you career, thanks for playing but you must go home.
Click to expand...

You are seriously going to compare someone getting stock from a CE to someone being RECRUITED with the wealth of experience these few had to help launch a new company? What about the stock they were granted here at Shire that they left on the table? Isn't that worth something?

Another il-informed malcontent
 






Regardless of financial considerations, 4 very smart and accomplished individuals left to do something else. Why in the world would anyone have any thing bad to say? It's either jealousy or fear they will lure others that creates the spite. Nothing else. Best of luck boys!
 






Thank you for making my point even more pertainent when you say you can't compare CE performance because you measure it being less valuable at Shire than going to a new company. These guys do understand wealth building!

Your point about the stock they left is irrelevant. Why do you think they left AFTER all the options activated in February and March 5th. Obviously you will never be successful if you didn't figure all that out. They outsmarted you AGAIN!!!
 






Anonymous said:
Thank you for making my point even more pertainent when you say you can't compare CE performance because you measure it being less valuable at Shire than going to a new company. These guys do understand wealth building!

Your point about the stock they left is irrelevant. Why do you think they left AFTER all the options activated in February and March 5th. Obviously you will never be successful if you didn't figure all that out. They outsmarted you AGAIN!!!
Click to expand...

And I supposed the last few years awards that didn't mature yet don't count for anything huh? Even though they were probably some of the largest grants they received to date. Its obvious you are not even a slightly recruited talent or else you'd have known that anytime a company wants you, including Shire, they'll throw stock options at you to sweeten the deal.

Keep talking, you may even "outsmart" yourself. Dumbass
 






Anonymous said:
And I supposed the last few years awards that didn't mature yet don't count for anything huh? Even though they were probably some of the largest grants they received to date. Its obvious you are not even a slightly recruited talent or else you'd have known that anytime a company wants you, including Shire, they'll throw stock options at you to sweeten the deal.

Keep talking, you may even "outsmart" yourself. Dumbass
Click to expand...

Name calling my dear sir? You must be one of Shire's best. With your response I would summize you are a ZD or above because this is the response I would expect of the abundant talent your company has collected the past few years.
I would very seriously doubt your statement that their shares would have been anywhere close to the largest they received since they were there when grants were 10,000+ a year. You must not have been there or you weren't the talent that got them a few years back.
I will close without calling names.
 






Anonymous said:
Name calling my dear sir? You must be one of Shire's best. With your response I would summize you are a ZD or above because this is the response I would expect of the abundant talent your company has collected the past few years.
I would very seriously doubt your statement that their shares would have been anywhere close to the largest they received since they were there when grants were 10,000+ a year. You must not have been there or you weren't the talent that got them a few years back.
I will close without calling names.
Click to expand...

Not quite my "Dear Sir" or are you one of the chickens who flew the coop? Based on your comment of "your company" along with your disdain for the last few years I'm betting you are one of them and can probably narrow it down to two. No one is blaming them (or you) for chasing the money, but at a 1y Target Est: $12.50 no one at this five and dime shop selling a generic epilepsy drug is building any kind of wealth. Believe it when I see it.
 






Top Bottom
Back
Quote