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Anonymous said:
Anyone out west, or elsewhere, besides me who has heard nothing either way? Email to recruiter unanswered. Surely if they take the time and expense to fly you out for an interview they'd at least email you if it's over, right?
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Yes it is over and you will be grateful you got passed over in 6 months.
 




Never received a response from the NJ interviews. Thanks assholes I know its difficult to email the people that took the time to fly in and interview for your shit company...appreciate it.
 












Anonymous said:
Can you share what the salary actually is? Recruiter is telling me it's mid 60's?
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I was told at interviews not to negotiate over a couple of thousand dollars and that I'd be cut if I did. Honestly, this didn't bother me at all-I respected it. I was told mid 60s was the base before I interviewed. Even though it's quite a bit less than my last base I was fine with that.

I'd rather not hear from any of you who think you're above the base and that I must be a loser blah blah. Just like every patient is different, every rep is different. I have my reasons for thinking this is the right opportunity for me.
 




Anonymous said:
I was told at interviews not to negotiate over a couple of thousand dollars and that I'd be cut if I did. Honestly, this didn't bother me at all-I respected it. I was told mid 60s was the base before I interviewed. Even though it's quite a bit less than my last base I was fine with that.

I'd rather not hear from any of you who think you're above the base and that I must be a loser blah blah. Just like every patient is different, every rep is different. I have my reasons for thinking this is the right opportunity for me.
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Who told you that you would be cut? Ridiculous.

Its good you know what you want, at least.

Good luck!
 




Anonymous said:
Never received a response from the NJ interviews. Thanks assholes I know its difficult to email the people that took the time to fly in and interview for your shit company...appreciate it.
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I was told Monday. I know someone who was just told yesterday. Maybe they are still working through each territory.
 




Anonymous said:
65. No higher . Even if DM wants you they can't go higher
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The average salary on this contact is $68,000. Especially if you live in very high cost of living areas such as San Francisco, you may be able to negotiate a salary much higher than that. In order to keep to the $68,000 average, most salaries will be below that level.
 




Anonymous said:
I was told at interviews not to negotiate over a couple of thousand dollars and that I'd be cut if I did. Honestly, this didn't bother me at all-I respected it. I was told mid 60s was the base before I interviewed. Even though it's quite a bit less than my last base I was fine with that.

I'd rather not hear from any of you who think you're above the base and that I must be a loser blah blah. Just like every patient is different, every rep is different. I have my reasons for thinking this is the right opportunity for me.
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Not buying your bullshit. Either your numbers suck or you have bad manager but nobody would take a big pay cut to take a contract job working beside Amgen reps making over 100k base for doing the same job. You are full of shit.
 




Anonymous said:
The average salary on this contact is $68,000. Especially if you live in very high cost of living areas such as San Francisco, you may be able to negotiate a salary much higher than that. In order to keep to the $68,000 average, most salaries will be below that level.
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Bullshit you have no idea what the average salary is. moron
 








I interviewed in Atlanta - have to say I was not impressed with how horribly run the interview process was - it was joke. They had the "welcome" table on the 15th floor - but no signs or info anywhere that is was there. When I asked the hotel concierge he gave me 3 different floors to check out. My welcome packet from the recruiter simply said when you arrive to go to the welcome table. Bad first impression. When I checked in I was told that only 1 of the 3 scheduled RDs was actually there and most people would not be doing 2nd interviews that day. When I scheduled my flight I was told that we would be doing 2 interviews with the 2nd being at 8:00pm. So they booked my flight home for 9:45pm - meaning a VERY long day of just sitting in a hotel. The welcome room was nice with snacks and drinks. The interview itself was a typical STAR interview - the questions they asked were pretty standard situations. However, once you finished your interview you were directed to the hotel lobby to wait on a call telling you could leave or you were one of the few who would be giving a 2nd interview that day. I waited 3hrs and 45 mins for my call. Every time I checked in with the Inventiv lady running the show she apologized and said the DM I interviewed with was not responding to her texts. Finally she called and said I could leave, that the territory I interviewed for would not be doing RD interviews that day. The only good part of the day was i was able to get on a standby flight and get home before 1am. However, if I hadn't just sat in the lobby all day I could have made it back much earlier. When I sent the DM a thank you letter I was told selections would be made by Wed and we would be notified. When I reached out to the recruiter on Thur after hearing nothing I was informed notifications would be coming Friday. And Monday I still had not heard anything so I reached back out to hiring Manager - he was having a hard time making up his mind and promised to get back to me. I finally received notification late Tue afternoon that I was the 2nd choice. I still haven't heard anything from the recruiter. In all honesty, after talking to a few other reps and reading more about Evo I am happy not to have been chosen. When I applied the recruiter really talked up the company and product. What an exciting new class of drug - blah, blah, blah. However, now I'm pretty sure this is going to be a very short contract, certainly not the 5 years I was told. Evo is not going to sell to primary care and will be very hard to sell to cardiologist. It is priced out of the market - it will have no managed care coverage and has competition from very effective, long proven products at much more realistic prices. Kinda feeling like I dodged a bullet on this one! All the same I am not impressed with how unprofessional Inventiv handled the process or that the recruiter still has not sent my rejection letter. And spending time in the lobby listening to so many of the other candidates it was apparent about 50% were bottom feeders. If the company was smart they would plant someone to pretend to be a candidate and take notes on what the real candidates say and how they act.

Good luck to those chosen - and to the rest be glad and keep looking
 




Anonymous said:
And spending time in the lobby listening to so many of the other candidates it was apparent about 50% were bottom feeders. I
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bottom feeders? Really, you talked to so many people in the lobby that you were able to come up with this stupid 50% number? What an asshole moron. I was in that lobby and no one was talking to you to come up with half of everyone was a bottom feeder...whatever the fuck a bottom feeder is. What an asshole. And as far as the price, PC, and MC, you are wrong there too. You don't even fucking know what the indication is and you're saying it wont be used by PC or covered by MC. You really don't know shit about people with unmanageable cholesterol do you?
 




The pharma business is a game. Their are excellent reps working hard in the field.

Many reps still around today may or may not be the better reps. They are good at playing the corporate game and sticking their head high up managements ass.

Good luck to everyone. If this does not work keep moving forward.
 












Anonymous said:
Actually, I do.
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That would mean you are an inventiv insider that has data on the salaries paid and could work the numbers to know what the avg salary is so far. Are you exposing yourself as someone in the know who is stupid enough to come to CP and spew your knowledge?
I dont think so, you are just an asshole troll blowing smoke up everyone's ass so shut the fuck up.
 




Anonymous said:
That would mean you are an inventiv insider that has data on the salaries paid and could work the numbers to know what the avg salary is so far. Are you exposing yourself as someone in the know who is stupid enough to come to CP and spew your knowledge?
I dont think so, you are just an asshole troll blowing smoke up everyone's ass so shut the fuck up.
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There is no need to work any numbers. The average of $68,000 was arrived at before any interviewing, or even postings of positions, began. Why are you so reluctant to believe that sometimes a person on Cafepharma is just trying to be helpful? I am simply relating information that is available to me. You are correct that I do not wish to give any more information that would serve to identify me, and I am certainly not in higher-level management with either company. Many different departments and personnel are involved when contracts are formulated. There are some aspects that I am privy to, and others to which I am not. Whether you want to believe me or not, what I have stated about salary for this contract is accurate.
 




Anonymous said:
bottom feeders? Really, you talked to so many people in the lobby that you were able to come up with this stupid 50% number? What an asshole moron. I was in that lobby and no one was talking to you to come up with half of everyone was a bottom feeder...whatever the fuck a bottom feeder is. What an asshole. And as far as the price, PC, and MC, you are wrong there too. You don't even fucking know what the indication is and you're saying it wont be used by PC or covered by MC. You really don't know shit about people with unmanageable cholesterol do you?
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Seems to have hit a nerve? Must have been you that the poster overheard blowing smoke and bragging about how much better you are than a contract position..

And the price is right on, confirmed by the DM I interviewed with, Evo will cost between $600 to $1000 per month. Do you actually think any primary care doc is going to write a cholesterol drug that costs that much when they can get good drugs for $4 or that any patient will be willing to buy it?? Familial hyperlipidemia is not a common condition, it is actually pretty uncommon and definitely not something primary care treats - those pts are going to be referred to specialists. Sorry, but I have to agree Amgen completely missed the mark with Evo, it should have been launched as a specialty product with a small sales for focusing on cardiology. Keeping it in it's niche might have allowed it to do ok. However, trying to hype it up as the next blockbuster. Bringing on a contract sales force in addition to their sales force and targeting primary care is mistake and will cause the product to a failure. Those that were signed - congrats! However, don't be thinking that 5 yr contract means anything. You'll be unemployed in 6 months
 




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