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Waaaaaaaaaaaaa!! We built this place! Waaaaaaaaaaaaa! OMG! I heard the Nexavar reps were whiners, but this is rediculous. It's called a major freakin drug launch and the only time you get paid is during a drug launch!! I know it's been 7 years, but damn, grow up! You guys are making yourself look even more needy and complainers!! Try to find something better and come talk to this board. Onyx is the best biotech out there, enough said!!
 












Yep! It sucks all the way to the bank. You mush be right, at 300% projection so far, flying off the shelves, 11-0 ODAC recommendation, bringing it out a year early, yeah this drug is real crap! What a douche!! My new boat, house, car will be crap too. In fact, I have already named my boat "Don't Hate!" for all those haters out there like yourself who didn't get the job! All I can say is please keep hating while I am cashing in my monster checks! Thanks for the motivation! The bank teller is getting sick of seeing me already!! Booya haters!!
 






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Yep! It sucks all the way to the bank. You mush be right, at 300% projection so far, flying off the shelves, 11-0 ODAC recommendation, bringing it out a year early, yeah this drug is real crap! What a douche!! My new boat, house, car will be crap too. In fact, I have already named my boat "Don't Hate!" for all those haters out there like yourself who didn't get the job! All I can say is please keep hating while I am cashing in my monster checks! Thanks for the motivation! The bank teller is getting sick of seeing me already!! Booya haters!!
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Funny since we haven't paid a bonus yet, we have direct deposit, and your strike price for your options is in the 60's. You haven't made anything yet...dumb story.
 


















Any chance we can replace the negative Nexavar reps and complainers with highly motivated individuals? If I were them, I would be worrying about Sutent eating my lunch every day? About the laziest sales force I have ever seen with a strong need for more? They have tons of stock options, great culture, and a new drug coming and still not happy. Freakin Powerball wouldn't make these people happy!! Bunch of needy old haggard reps that hate to see others do well because "they built this place"? C'mon, grow up and stop the hate, it is not a good look on you guys. Just be happy for Kyprolis and its journey, in the end, we all win, if that is truly what you want?
 






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Any chance we can replace the negative Nexavar reps and complainers with highly motivated individuals? If I were them, I would be worrying about Sutent eating my lunch every day? About the laziest sales force I have ever seen with a strong need for more? They have tons of stock options, great culture, and a new drug coming and still not happy. Freakin Powerball wouldn't make these people happy!! Bunch of needy old haggard reps that hate to see others do well because "they built this place"? C'mon, grow up and stop the hate, it is not a good look on you guys. Just be happy for Kyprolis and its journey, in the end, we all win, if that is truly what you want?
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Of course we all want to win! We are THRILLED that you are doing well with Kyprolis. Stop trying to pit one sales force against the other....that is childish and hateful. We are all excellent sales reps. Alll we are saying is that Onyx should pay both sales forces the same base salaries (seeing as we do the same job), and the bonus plan for both new drug launches should offer the same possibility of income. We are asking for EQUALITY. That's all. And rest assured, if the shoe was on the other foot the Kyprolis sales force would be asking for the same.....Only difference is that the Nexavar sales force would back the Kyprolis sales force in that quest, instead of rag on them. Fair is Fair. You should want your fellow sales reps to be treated the same as you, because if the shoe is ever on the other foot, you would want to be treated fairly, I'm sure. Yes, we have more stock options: That is a given--we have been here longer and came on when the company was nothing. That is not a valid argument. This is not an issue between sales forces...this is an issue between Nexavar reps and upper management....so stop trying to make it an issue between sales forces---in fact, if I were you, I'd either butt out and go sell Kyprolis or cheer on the Nexavar reps for trying to get the company to do the right thing. Funny, avoiding this "in-fighting" is EXACTLY why Onyx promised us we would be treated equally. Onyx: Take note.
 






The only way to increase your salary over the average 5% is change companies. If you want to make more money in your base salary, you will have to change companies just the the 64 Kyprolis reps did and took a huge risk. So change companies and stop complaining!! Like another $15K a year is the answer to your happiness? Like the other post said, its not a good look. The Nexavar sales force is becoming exposed and its not looking good. I would stop complaining and enjoy what you have as 5000 reps would gladly take your place for lower salaries. So grow up and enjoy, and stop being so greedy. If you don't like it, you need to find a place that will make you happy? Take note: Onyx (Nexavar reps are needy).
 






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The only way to increase your salary over the average 5% is change companies. If you want to make more money in your base salary, you will have to change companies just the the 64 Kyprolis reps did and took a huge risk. So change companies and stop complaining!! Like another $15K a year is the answer to your happiness? Like the other post said, its not a good look. The Nexavar sales force is becoming exposed and its not looking good. I would stop complaining and enjoy what you have as 5000 reps would gladly take your place for lower salaries. So grow up and enjoy, and stop being so greedy. If you don't like it, you need to find a place that will make you happy? Take note: Onyx (Nexavar reps are needy).
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I could be wrong but weren't your offers contingent on the drug being approved, and weren't many of you out of work at the time? Not really a huge risk. if I'm wrong about that, my apologies. Again, "whining" is complaining about a couple hundred bucks in a car/mileage plan (which, by the way, EQUALLY affected both sales forces) We're talking about a $50,000-$75,000 discrepancy between sales forces if you factor base salary and bonus plans differences (not just talking about base salary). So, not sure where you are coming up with $15k. I'm sure if the tables were turned, you'd feel badly too. If the tables were turned, I'd be embarrassed that my company didn't treat my colleagues the same as me and I'd be hoping they made it right. Definition of greed is you: "I got mine so who cares about anyone else".
 






All your posts are irrelevant because your ride will be short once you are all working for Bayer. From Forbes today. "There’s speculation that Onyx's Nexavar partner, Bayer, might buy the whole company, for the rest of its pipeline." Just like Onyx bought its pipeline with Kyprolis, Bayer will buy you. Enjoy the short ride because something tells me that you will all have Bayer on your business cards next year and there will be far fewer of you, especially in management.
 






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All your posts are irrelevant because your ride will be short once you are all working for Bayer. From Forbes today. "There’s speculation that Onyx's Nexavar partner, Bayer, might buy the whole company, for the rest of its pipeline." Just like Onyx bought its pipeline with Kyprolis, Bayer will buy you. Enjoy the short ride because something tells me that you will all have Bayer on your business cards next year and there will be far fewer of you, especially in management.
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Darn, I love watching siegfried and Roy do their mating dance at the nsms. I guess PS will have to take her cougar act to her next gig if Bayer pulls the trigger
 






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All your posts are irrelevant because your ride will be short once you are all working for Bayer. From Forbes today. "There’s speculation that Onyx's Nexavar partner, Bayer, might buy the whole company, for the rest of its pipeline." Just like Onyx bought its pipeline with Kyprolis, Bayer will buy you. Enjoy the short ride because something tells me that you will all have Bayer on your business cards next year and there will be far fewer of you, especially in management.
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Awesome! I’ve been here since the beginning and I’m ready for a change…especially with a couple million in the bank…Come one TC get us that $125 a share price and let’s call it a career!
 






Oh, please. The Bayer buyout rumors have been circulating for over 5 years. Could it happen? Yes. Is it likely? Questionable. It would have been cheaper to buy us during the lawsuit if they had acquisition intentions. Why go thru the legal expense and payout? A buyout could happen tomorrow or 10 yrs from now. Speculating on if, when, who, and how much is a waste of time.
 












Does anyone working at Onyx care about the patient???? As an oncologist, I find the greed about money on this board troubling, especially in this economy. If the only positive thing you are looking for in a job is the $$$ and that you have more "things" than the next guy, you will never be happy anywhere. Maybe it's time for some of you to re-evaluate your values and priorities if you want me to find you credible as you try to "sell" me carfilzomib. I haven't met my rep yet, but you can be sure I have some serious concerns about your agenda with my patients already.
 






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Does anyone working at Onyx care about the patient???? As an oncologist, I find the greed about money on this board troubling, especially in this economy. If the only positive thing you are looking for in a job is the $$$ and that you have more "things" than the next guy, you will never be happy anywhere. Maybe it's time for some of you to re-evaluate your values and priorities if you want me to find you credible as you try to "sell" me carfilzomib. I haven't met my rep yet, but you can be sure I have some serious concerns about your agenda with my patients already.
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I’m concerned for your patients and their families that you display such poor judgment by not only visiting a drug rep blog (why???) but that you actually take your valuable time to post on it! What other poor decisions are you making? You also showed poor judgment by painting anyone in this company with one broad brush as “greedy sale reps”. I hope you are new to Café Pharma but in most cases and most likely in this case this is no more than a handful of reps talking smack on each other. The topic of this thread is ‘Working at Onyx/Sales’ why would you expect it to be patient centric? The absence of talking about patients does not mean we don’t care about the patients it just that was not the topic of the thread. Most, if not all of us, are caring people and like this line of work because even though it is sales we are selling something that is at least helping some people. It’s not like we are selling cigarettes! I’m shocked that you think people need to re-evaluate their values and priorities because they are arguing about fair pay and equality at the company they work for, ESPECIALLY IN THIS ECONOMY! Why is that wrong? You sound quite self-righteous and very self-indulgent. Why don’t you judge the rep that visits you as the person they are and not from a few postings on a drug rep blog, that just by pure statistical chance the person visiting you never read this blog and is most unlikely to be any of the posters? Maybe it’s time for you to stop stereotyping and making quick and uninformed judgments about people you never met. “Our agenda”??? Our agenda is to provide you with information, help with access to the drug, reimbursement, help your staff with AE mgt, be a conduit for you and our medical personnel just to mention a very few. There is “no agenda” other than that!

This to me is the funniest thing you posted:

“As an oncologist, I find the greed about money on this board troubling, especially in this economy”.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Oh so you must be delivering care to all your patients pro bono! Look it’s not like you are working the fee clinic 7 days a week in Haiti! You must not take a penny to do talks or be a consultant, or go to an ad board or to do a study, and the list goes on and on, but I’m sure you gladly give you’re insights for free or give any earnings to charity!

Oncologists were the greediest of the greedy in the healthcare system and you have only yourselves to blame for the economic crunch you are feeling. I’m old and can tell you billing Medicare 5K for 1K worth of bleo is exactly what started the ASP+6% business. Then what did the oh so altruistic oncologist do? Make money on the spread of GCSF by pitting two companies against each other through the most corrupt contracts every written up in this industry! Or now with all the oral agents, “Well I don’t like to use oral agents because I can’t make ANY money off of those, at least with the infusions I can make a couple of extra bucks”!!! – Even at the inconvenience to the patient. Again one last chance to make some money! For the last ten years all any of us have been hearing is how you can’t scratch out a living anymore as an oncologist! FF to today and now you are selling your clinics left and right to USO or the local hospital …not for better patient care or access or anything that you rationalize from a patient perspective but for the pure purpose of putting more money in your pockets!

But hey it’s all about the patients for you I’m sure…my apologies, you’re probably the exception to the stereotyping I just did…
 


















The answer lies within this thread. The long term Onyx reps on the Nex side of the fence have been living with that show for more than a few years. Just sub a cougar for the white tiger.
 






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