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Why you won't leave- Why I didn't leave the industry

Your main problem (there are many, but there is not enough time in the day to go through them all) is that you think accumulating "money" means success.

Change the measure, moron.

Success in finance is to have no debt. Are you debt free?

Success in life is entirely different. It is a spiritual path for the most part, growing as a person, and then mentoring others along the way. That is success.

You just love the lies fed to you through TV and other media. A sheep is what you are.

What are your dollars going to actually buy you? A bigger house, a nice car, ?

Wake up and learn about true success, and stop being a tool your entire life, living as a corporate drone.

Very true.
Only when the gravy train ends, and mostly never due to you or your performance, you quickly realize how much money we get (and many many others get even more) for REALLY doing so little...all at the expense of the patient and the health care system.
Then we see the reality of "employment" and "career" and "GOALS".
Miserable reality if you are just too filled up on KoolAide to absorb the slap.
 




Very true.
Only when the gravy train ends, and mostly never due to you or your performance, you quickly realize how much money we get (and many many others get even more) for REALLY doing so little...all at the expense of the patient and the health care system.
Then we see the reality of "employment" and "career" and "GOALS".
Miserable reality if you are just too filled up on KoolAide to absorb the slap.

Those that continue to stay in, when the warning signs are everywhere, are really living in a fantasy land.

If I were still in, I would be praying for a downsize, and get a severance.

In the meantime, build up another business with a spouse or a trusted business partner, that you can do without drawing attention.
 




Very true.
Only when the gravy train ends, and mostly never due to you or your performance, you quickly realize how much money we get (and many many others get even more) for REALLY doing so little...all at the expense of the patient and the health care system.
Then we see the reality of "employment" and "career" and "GOALS".
Miserable reality if you are just too filled up on KoolAide to absorb the slap.

Let's repeat the key point above - "Pfizer sales people get so much money for really doing so little". Leadership now understands that and since we can't afford 120K slackers anymore, most of you will be eliminated. What an irony it is for some here to criticize those who rely on government handouts to live when the sales force have been the biggest parasites in the healthcare industry.........
 




Residential real estate. 45 properties. Buy at 30% of value of 2006 and rents are more than 2006. Bought over 20 properties in last 3 years. Pay cash. Make profit after taxes, insurance, expenses of $20,000 a month. Major expenses above and beyond normal expenses is $10k a year. It is about cash flow not what the houses are worth. If the housing market returns to 2006 levels it is gravy. I work 25 +/- hours a week for Pfizer. I have been buying properties for many years. It doesn't happen overnight. I work 70 + hours a week on both jobs. What else do you want to know?

If you are telling the truth in your post, then you are a thief. Our leaders are well aware that a sizable percentage of the field force works 20 hours a week, max. From my own observation, its not as bad as it used to be, but there are still too many thieves like you out there. I for one am sick and tired of covering for counterparts that have yet another play, rehearsal, ball game to go to for little Biff or Muffy, or worse, another business. Anyone that knows me knows that I am no Pfizer KoolAid drinker, but get really pissed when I hear about people that rip us off blindly, and then have the nerve to try to justify their actions when they get caught or reprimanded.

I am all for an entrepreneurial spirit. I have a business on the side myself, but I'll be damned if I suck from Pfizer's teat financially while working 40-50 hours a week on my business! When my business gets big enough for 40-50hours of my time, I will resign before I pull this shit.
 




If you are telling the truth in your post, then you are a thief. Our leaders are well aware that a sizable percentage of the field force works 20 hours a week, max. From my own observation, its not as bad as it used to be, but there are still too many thieves like you out there. I for one am sick and tired of covering for counterparts that have yet another play, rehearsal, ball game to go to for little Biff or Muffy, or worse, another business. Anyone that knows me knows that I am no Pfizer KoolAid drinker, but get really pissed when I hear about people that rip us off blindly, and then have the nerve to try to justify their actions when they get caught or reprimanded.

I am all for an entrepreneurial spirit. I have a business on the side myself, but I'll be damned if I suck from Pfizer's teat financially while working 40-50 hours a week on my business! When my business gets big enough for 40-50hours of my time, I will resign before I pull this shit.

The thing is that he isn't telling the truth, so there is no sense in even trying to respond to him.
 




Easy to tell that this guy is full of it. If he really paid cash and bought 20 properties, he would only be able to buy homes in Detroit for 10K or less and that would still cost $2 million. But then, property like that would not be generating the made up rental income in the post. Secondly, even with the housing debacle no market would be selling at only 30% of 2006 price, yet still have rents paying the 2006 rents. Just google the top ten market declines ( which don't get you up to the 70% decline this person claims, if he was really buying at 30% of 2006 prices) and still have 2006 rental rates.

Hey Moron, 20 properties at $10k is $200,000 not $2 million
 




Your main problem (there are many, but there is not enough time in the day to go through them all) is that you think accumulating "money" means success.

Change the measure, moron.

Success in finance is to have no debt. Are you debt free?

Success in life is entirely different. It is a spiritual path for the most part, growing as a person, and then mentoring others along the way. That is success.

You just love the lies fed to you through TV and other media. A sheep is what you are.

What are your dollars going to actually buy you? A bigger house, a nice car, ?

Wake up and learn about true success, and stop being a tool your entire life, living as a corporate drone.

We were talking about success being money on this blog, so you're attempting to spin this discussion to non-monetary proves you really are jealous. Dollars buy freedom and independance. Corporate America and a side business allows this freedom to come quicker. You will be unemplyed soon and living in a box or Moms basement
 




If you are telling the truth in your post, then you are a thief. Our leaders are well aware that a sizable percentage of the field force works 20 hours a week, max. From my own observation, its not as bad as it used to be, but there are still too many thieves like you out there. I for one am sick and tired of covering for counterparts that have yet another play, rehearsal, ball game to go to for little Biff or Muffy, or worse, another business. Anyone that knows me knows that I am no Pfizer KoolAid drinker, but get really pissed when I hear about people that rip us off blindly, and then have the nerve to try to justify their actions when they get caught or reprimanded.

I am all for an entrepreneurial spirit. I have a business on the side myself, but I'll be damned if I suck from Pfizer's teat financially while working 40-50 hours a week on my business! When my business gets big enough for 40-50hours of my time, I will resign before I pull this shit.

If you define a thief working under 40 hours a week for Pfizer, then I am a thief. So are 85% of reps.
 




If you are telling the truth in your post, then you are a thief. Our leaders are well aware that a sizable percentage of the field force works 20 hours a week, max. From my own observation, its not as bad as it used to be, but there are still too many thieves like you out there. I for one am sick and tired of covering for counterparts that have yet another play, rehearsal, ball game to go to for little Biff or Muffy, or worse, another business. Anyone that knows me knows that I am no Pfizer KoolAid drinker, but get really pissed when I hear about people that rip us off blindly, and then have the nerve to try to justify their actions when they get caught or reprimanded.

I am all for an entrepreneurial spirit. I have a business on the side myself, but I'll be damned if I suck from Pfizer's teat financially while working 40-50 hours a week on my business! When my business gets big enough for 40-50hours of my time, I will resign before I pull this shit.

Why is it worse to to rip off Pfizer for a side business than going to a play, rehearsal, or ball game. Is it because you rip off Pfizer by leaving early to go to ball games, plays, or rehearsals?
 




We were talking about success being money on this blog, so you're attempting to spin this discussion to non-monetary proves you really are jealous. Dollars buy freedom and independance. Corporate America and a side business allows this freedom to come quicker. You will be unemplyed soon and living in a box or Moms basement

And since you are speaking from experience, was it harder living in your mom's basement or do you prefer the box that is your current residence?
 




And since you are speaking from experience, was it harder living in your mom's basement or do you prefer the box that is your current residence?

If anything happened to my primary residence I would have 45 other places to live. Every one of my homes is nicer than your current home. Answer one question. Does your family hate you because you are dumb and a poor provider?
 




Why is it worse to to rip off Pfizer for a side business than going to a play, rehearsal, or ball game. Is it because you rip off Pfizer by leaving early to go to ball games, plays, or rehearsals?

Because most cheat 2-3 hours a day several times a month. You openly brag about cheating for 40-50 hours a week. Its the order of magnitude. Everyone that cheats their company is wrong, but those that cheat more are...wronger? New word, but you get the point.

Applaud your initiative, happy for your business but hope and pray I never do business with you. Liars and thieves tend not to last that long, because someone will call them on their BS and kick them to the curb.

You'll see.

PS: My side business net me $43K last year. Not bad for the amount of hours worked, but could be better. But I'm trying, and I am not doing anything with it between 8-5 Mon- Friday.
 




Because most cheat 2-3 hours a day several times a month. You openly brag about cheating for 40-50 hours a week. Its the order of magnitude. Everyone that cheats their company is wrong, but those that cheat more are...wronger? New word, but you get the point.

Applaud your initiative, happy for your business but hope and pray I never do business with you. Liars and thieves tend not to last that long, because someone will call them on their BS and kick them to the curb.

You'll see.

PS: My side business net me $43K last year. Not bad for the amount of hours worked, but could be better. But I'm trying, and I am not doing anything with it between 8-5 Mon- Friday.

A cheat is a cheat. I have been cheating for 10 years not working near 30 hours a week. I will eventually get laid off but so will you. Many 40 hour a week employees were laid off and I stayed. So I gues you're wrong. Liars and theives, like me, last pretty long.
 




A cheat is a cheat. I have been cheating for 10 years not working near 30 hours a week. I will eventually get laid off but so will you. Many 40 hour a week employees were laid off and I stayed. So I gues you're wrong. Liars and theives, like me, last pretty long.

Only a fool would post something like this. Staying for a few extra years means nothing!
 




Residential real estate. 45 properties. Buy at 30% of value of 2006 and rents are more than 2006. Bought over 20 properties in last 3 years. Pay cash. Make profit after taxes, insurance, expenses of $20,000 a month. Major expenses above and beyond normal expenses is $10k a year. It is about cash flow not what the houses are worth. If the housing market returns to 2006 levels it is gravy. I work 25 +/- hours a week for Pfizer. I have been buying properties for many years. It doesn't happen overnight. I work 70 + hours a week on both jobs. What else do you want to know?

Did you purchase all that property before or after you sold your Unicorn farm? Do you still have all those oil wells and gold mines on your property to?

Tell us more about your mass riches, Jed Clampett.
 
















Did you purchase all that property before or after you sold your Unicorn farm? Do you still have all those oil wells and gold mines on your property to?

Tell us more about your mass riches, Jed Clampett.

It's not that far fetched, really. I founded Facebook and Google during my spare time while working at Pfizer. I'm just here for the benefits.