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Why you won't leave- Why I didn't leave the industry

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Ok, here is some truth. If you read this rationally, you will agree:

In 2006, my DM was let go from Pfizer so was the RBD (he was actually fired GL from Ohio). The writing on the wall began. I didn't leave because I made six figures (so do you). I didn't leave because I didn't want to buy a personal car (neither do you), I didn't leave because the job required little brain power (you must agree), I didn't leave because I was with one of the most admired companies in the world (consider the time), I didn't leave because I was a winning rep, I was overwhelmed by a false sense of security-- that the best stayed, didn't go because I had a big ego, didn't leave because for the past 100 years Pfizer treated its employees well and I was playing the odds. However, The writing was on the wall.

In 2009, I was let go (as many others from MI). By this time one Rookie of the year trophy, one VPC trophy and a buy out letter for more than 80K. Recall, the peak of the layoff period. Stuck and scared (more embarrassed), I was only thankful my spouse, an engineer, was outside of the industry and could support us for a period of time off one income.

Why I didn't leave the industry:- See the first paragraph. Period. Yes, I found another pharma job, YES I make more money, Yes the benefits are the same. Yes, it was very competitive. Yes it took longer than I thought. Yes, for the first time my ego was as tall as a 2foot midget, but I still wanted the flexibility to be a little lazy for the same amount of money and effort. Plus the perks, who could give this up easy. Before my Pfizer employment, I spent several years working at IBM. Although Pfizer paid me more in benefits, my base salary was about the same. I have a master's degree. This would have been the perfect opportunity to go back to corporate America with my tail tucked between my legs, punching the 8-5 clock. I didn't want to. Why? Re-read this paragraph.

Stop believing Pfizer pays the best in the industry. They don't (although they use to). Stop believing they have the better benefits, they don't (they use to). Do believe that some hiring managers (don't blame the competing companies, only the hiring managers), won't hire Pfizer reps- Those managers are out there and will not touch Pfizer reps.... why? Because they themselves were cheated out of the Pfizer experience (launch days of Lipitor and Viagra). When you look for another job in the industry (I know you will), keep this in mind, if you think that the hiring manager is discrediting your Pfizer experience, come back with this: Whatever you think of Pfizer as a company, you have to admit that the products launched in the 1990's are the benchmark of financial success. The training of Pfizer reps are the most admired (remember nobody likes an overinflated ego). I am no better than the hiring class of 2003, meaning I landed extremely well in this industry and will ride out this brainless six figure job until the check bounces. You will too. This is the absolute truth from your former colleague. I wish you good luck, and if we ever meet again let's talk about the accuracy of this post.

Former- suburban Michigan Pratt (more than anyone else ever gave you)
 




Ok, here is some truth. If you read this rationally, you will agree:

In 2006, my DM was let go from Pfizer so was the RBD (he was actually fired GL from Ohio). The writing on the wall began. I didn't leave because I made six figures (so do you). I didn't leave because I didn't want to buy a personal car (neither do you), I didn't leave because the job required little brain power (you must agree), I didn't leave because I was with one of the most admired companies in the world (consider the time), I didn't leave because I was a winning rep, I was overwhelmed by a false sense of security-- that the best stayed, didn't go because I had a big ego, didn't leave because for the past 100 years Pfizer treated its employees well and I was playing the odds. However, The writing was on the wall.

In 2009, I was let go (as many others from MI). By this time one Rookie of the year trophy, one VPC trophy and a buy out letter for more than 80K. Recall, the peak of the layoff period. Stuck and scared (more embarrassed), I was only thankful my spouse, an engineer, was outside of the industry and could support us for a period of time off one income.

Why I didn't leave the industry:- See the first paragraph. Period. Yes, I found another pharma job, YES I make more money, Yes the benefits are the same. Yes, it was very competitive. Yes it took longer than I thought. Yes, for the first time my ego was as tall as a 2foot midget, but I still wanted the flexibility to be a little lazy for the same amount of money and effort. Plus the perks, who could give this up easy. Before my Pfizer employment, I spent several years working at IBM. Although Pfizer paid me more in benefits, my base salary was about the same. I have a master's degree. This would have been the perfect opportunity to go back to corporate America with my tail tucked between my legs, punching the 8-5 clock. I didn't want to. Why? Re-read this paragraph.

Stop believing Pfizer pays the best in the industry. They don't (although they use to). Stop believing they have the better benefits, they don't (they use to). Do believe that some hiring managers (don't blame the competing companies, only the hiring managers), won't hire Pfizer reps- Those managers are out there and will not touch Pfizer reps.... why? Because they themselves were cheated out of the Pfizer experience (launch days of Lipitor and Viagra). When you look for another job in the industry (I know you will), keep this in mind, if you think that the hiring manager is discrediting your Pfizer experience, come back with this: Whatever you think of Pfizer as a company, you have to admit that the products launched in the 1990's are the benchmark of financial success. The training of Pfizer reps are the most admired (remember nobody likes an overinflated ego). I am no better than the hiring class of 2003, meaning I landed extremely well in this industry and will ride out this brainless six figure job until the check bounces. You will too. This is the absolute truth from your former colleague. I wish you good luck, and if we ever meet again let's talk about the accuracy of this post.

Former- suburban Michigan Pratt (more than anyone else ever gave you)

YEP
 




Ok, here is some truth. If you read this rationally, you will agree:

In 2006, my DM was let go from Pfizer so was the RBD (he was actually fired GL from Ohio). The writing on the wall began. I didn't leave because I made six figures (so do you). I didn't leave because I didn't want to buy a personal car (neither do you), I didn't leave because the job required little brain power (you must agree), I didn't leave because I was with one of the most admired companies in the world (consider the time), I didn't leave because I was a winning rep, I was overwhelmed by a false sense of security-- that the best stayed, didn't go because I had a big ego, didn't leave because for the past 100 years Pfizer treated its employees well and I was playing the odds. However, The writing was on the wall.

In 2009, I was let go (as many others from MI). By this time one Rookie of the year trophy, one VPC trophy and a buy out letter for more than 80K. Recall, the peak of the layoff period. Stuck and scared (more embarrassed), I was only thankful my spouse, an engineer, was outside of the industry and could support us for a period of time off one income.

Why I didn't leave the industry:- See the first paragraph. Period. Yes, I found another pharma job, YES I make more money, Yes the benefits are the same. Yes, it was very competitive. Yes it took longer than I thought. Yes, for the first time my ego was as tall as a 2foot midget, but I still wanted the flexibility to be a little lazy for the same amount of money and effort. Plus the perks, who could give this up easy. Before my Pfizer employment, I spent several years working at IBM. Although Pfizer paid me more in benefits, my base salary was about the same. I have a master's degree. This would have been the perfect opportunity to go back to corporate America with my tail tucked between my legs, punching the 8-5 clock. I didn't want to. Why? Re-read this paragraph.

Stop believing Pfizer pays the best in the industry. They don't (although they use to). Stop believing they have the better benefits, they don't (they use to). Do believe that some hiring managers (don't blame the competing companies, only the hiring managers), won't hire Pfizer reps- Those managers are out there and will not touch Pfizer reps.... why? Because they themselves were cheated out of the Pfizer experience (launch days of Lipitor and Viagra). When you look for another job in the industry (I know you will), keep this in mind, if you think that the hiring manager is discrediting your Pfizer experience, come back with this: Whatever you think of Pfizer as a company, you have to admit that the products launched in the 1990's are the benchmark of financial success. The training of Pfizer reps are the most admired (remember nobody likes an overinflated ego). I am no better than the hiring class of 2003, meaning I landed extremely well in this industry and will ride out this brainless six figure job until the check bounces. You will too. This is the absolute truth from your former colleague. I wish you good luck, and if we ever meet again let's talk about the accuracy of this post.

Former- suburban Michigan Pratt (more than anyone else ever gave you)

Agree. I also stay in the industry because this easy job allowed me to build a side business making $200k a year. Year after year.
 








I stay with Pfizer because no one else has CUE. Selling tool.

I stay with Pfizer because I like getting my first quarter quotas in April.

I stay with Pfizer because I know compliance has my back.
 




Amana Home Health or commercial real estate---which one are you?

Please name the companies, pieces of properties, etc that you are involved in. I am not saying that you are not being truthful, but there has been soooo many posters on here saying that they are doing the same. As far as the real estate is concerned, we are still in the housing crisis so I highly doubt you have the same worth if you got in ten years ago, but is it commercial or residential? Home healthcare requires a great deal of coin, connections, etc to get started almost to a point that you wouldn't be able to even work 25 hours a week at Pfizer no matter how big a joke this company is... Please more details and I want to make it clear that I am not making fun of you, just "detailing" so to speak..
 




Please name the companies, pieces of properties, etc that you are involved in. I am not saying that you are not being truthful, but there has been soooo many posters on here saying that they are doing the same. As far as the real estate is concerned, we are still in the housing crisis so I highly doubt you have the same worth if you got in ten years ago, but is it commercial or residential? Home healthcare requires a great deal of coin, connections, etc to get started almost to a point that you wouldn't be able to even work 25 hours a week at Pfizer no matter how big a joke this company is... Please more details and I want to make it clear that I am not making fun of you, just "detailing" so to speak..

Residential real estate. 45 properties. Buy at 30% of value of 2006 and rents are more than 2006. Bought over 20 properties in last 3 years. Pay cash. Make profit after taxes, insurance, expenses of $20,000 a month. Major expenses above and beyond normal expenses is $10k a year. It is about cash flow not what the houses are worth. If the housing market returns to 2006 levels it is gravy. I work 25 +/- hours a week for Pfizer. I have been buying properties for many years. It doesn't happen overnight. I work 70 + hours a week on both jobs. What else do you want to know?
 




Residential real estate. 45 properties. Buy at 30% of value of 2006 and rents are more than 2006. Bought over 20 properties in last 3 years. Pay cash. Make profit after taxes, insurance, expenses of $20,000 a month. Major expenses above and beyond normal expenses is $10k a year. It is about cash flow not what the houses are worth. If the housing market returns to 2006 levels it is gravy. I work 25 +/- hours a week for Pfizer. I have been buying properties for many years. It doesn't happen overnight. I work 70 + hours a week on both jobs. What else do you want to know?

Another brag post.
Problem is, is it is very easy to get caught and you have so many podmates at Pfizer that will rat you out.

If you are doing it, it is with a small company. I will give you that. But, not with Pfizer.
 




Another brag post.
Problem is, is it is very easy to get caught and you have so many podmates at Pfizer that will rat you out.

If you are doing it, it is with a small company. I will give you that. But, not with Pfizer.

I don't know....this could be true....ther are some PFE mgrs that turn their heads the other way when they have a slacker rep on their team. Normally cuz there's a former Wyeth rep on the team carrying their lazy ass, they'll never really get caught. Legacy PFE have this good 'ole boy network of favoring and saving PFE reps even if they suck so I could see this assclown working 25 hours a week and then doing the 2nd job. Especially if his mgr is a moron. Trust me on this, they'll all have to answer to someone, either in this life or beyond. Cheaters never win.
 




Residential real estate. 45 properties. Buy at 30% of value of 2006 and rents are more than 2006. Bought over 20 properties in last 3 years. Pay cash. Make profit after taxes, insurance, expenses of $20,000 a month. Major expenses above and beyond normal expenses is $10k a year. It is about cash flow not what the houses are worth. If the housing market returns to 2006 levels it is gravy. I work 25 +/- hours a week for Pfizer. I have been buying properties for many years. It doesn't happen overnight. I work 70 + hours a week on both jobs. What else do you want to know?

What else do I want to know?

Okay........do you lie on all your other posts as well, or is it just this one?
 




What else do I want to know?

Okay........do you lie on all your other posts as well, or is it just this one?

Just because you can't handle the Pfizer job and personal life doesn't mean everyone is as dumb and lazy as you. I want to be laid off but they won't do it. I am not quitting because it is too easy. At the end of the day I work hard but never have money concerns. To a previous post, my counterparts and manager have no idea how many properties I own. Anyway they are investments just like stocks. If the company came after me stating there is a conflict then there is a conflict with anyone who owns 1 property, stocks or bonds, or an art collection. Don't be jealous of the hard working, risk takers. You are now acting like the people who get free government housing, welfare, food stamps and still hate the working man who pays for their needs.
 




Just because you can't handle the Pfizer job and personal life doesn't mean everyone is as dumb and lazy as you. I want to be laid off but they won't do it. I am not quitting because it is too easy. At the end of the day I work hard but never have money concerns. To a previous post, my counterparts and manager have no idea how many properties I own. Anyway they are investments just like stocks. If the company came after me stating there is a conflict then there is a conflict with anyone who owns 1 property, stocks or bonds, or an art collection. Don't be jealous of the hard working, risk takers. You are now acting like the people who get free government housing, welfare, food stamps and still hate the working man who pays for their needs.

So you got caught in a lie and now you come back with silly post that just tries to continue the lie even more. You are pathetic.
 








So you got caught in a lie and now you come back with silly post that just tries to continue the lie even more. You are pathetic.

Your kids must be so proud of you living paycheck to paycheck. That's what you get by being lazy, having poor family values and a State school education. You must have been shaking in your boots when they announced upcoming lay offs. Just think how embarrassed you will be when you eventually get laid off.
 




Your kids must be so proud of you living paycheck to paycheck. That's what you get by being lazy, having poor family values and a State school education. You must have been shaking in your boots when they announced upcoming lay offs. Just think how embarrassed you will be when you eventually get laid off.

i never left -i wanted to but my brother from orleans said that my life would get better if i spent a summer with the neighbors from down the street.
 




Your kids must be so proud of you living paycheck to paycheck. That's what you get by being lazy, having poor family values and a State school education. You must have been shaking in your boots when they announced upcoming lay offs. Just think how embarrassed you will be when you eventually get laid off.

And you are wrong on each item, which continues your track record of lies. Just for your information, I have no debt, a paid off home, a fully funded retirement portfolio, a nice investment account, etc. As for state education, I have put my kids through private education as public schools are a disaster. I do not fear a layoff as I would just bank the severance and have other options. Unlike you, I do not need to make up stuff about my financial security.
 




And you are wrong on each item, which continues your track record of lies. Just for your information, I have no debt, a paid off home, a fully funded retirement portfolio, a nice investment account, etc. As for state education, I have put my kids through private education as public schools are a disaster. I do not fear a layoff as I would just bank the severance and have other options. Unlike you, I do not need to make up stuff about my financial security.

Stop being jealous of someone 10 years younger than you being so much more successful. Most people consider your investment account of $10,000 to be a joke. Unfortunately you consider this "nice"!!
 




Residential real estate. 45 properties. Buy at 30% of value of 2006 and rents are more than 2006. Bought over 20 properties in last 3 years. Pay cash. Make profit after taxes, insurance, expenses of $20,000 a month. Major expenses above and beyond normal expenses is $10k a year. It is about cash flow not what the houses are worth. If the housing market returns to 2006 levels it is gravy. I work 25 +/- hours a week for Pfizer. I have been buying properties for many years. It doesn't happen overnight. I work 70 + hours a week on both jobs. What else do you want to know?

Easy to tell that this guy is full of it. If he really paid cash and bought 20 properties, he would only be able to buy homes in Detroit for 10K or less and that would still cost $2 million. But then, property like that would not be generating the made up rental income in the post. Secondly, even with the housing debacle no market would be selling at only 30% of 2006 price, yet still have rents paying the 2006 rents. Just google the top ten market declines ( which don't get you up to the 70% decline this person claims, if he was really buying at 30% of 2006 prices) and still have 2006 rental rates.
 




Stop being jealous of someone 10 years younger than you being so much more successful. Most people consider your investment account of $10,000 to be a joke. Unfortunately you consider this "nice"!!

I am sure you are younger, which also shows in your lack of experience and intellect as you can't even make up good lies. I probably have more in my checking account than you have in your entire portfolio. Dream on little boy.
 




Stop being jealous of someone 10 years younger than you being so much more successful. Most people consider your investment account of $10,000 to be a joke. Unfortunately you consider this "nice"!!

Your main problem (there are many, but there is not enough time in the day to go through them all) is that you think accumulating "money" means success.

Change the measure, moron.

Success in finance is to have no debt. Are you debt free?

Success in life is entirely different. It is a spiritual path for the most part, growing as a person, and then mentoring others along the way. That is success.

You just love the lies fed to you through TV and other media. A sheep is what you are.

What are your dollars going to actually buy you? A bigger house, a nice car, ?

Wake up and learn about true success, and stop being a tool your entire life, living as a corporate drone.