Why Don't The CTL's Have to Work Under Constant Threat of Being Pushed Out too?

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The CTLs were immune to layoffs until this past June because they have been the primary tool used to get reps to quit. Having accomplished the vast majority of that task, they are now being let go, finally, with full packages and pensions that have ripened and plenty of stock grants. It was all part of the company's long-term plan many years ago. None of this happens by chance, people.
 




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The CTLs were immune to layoffs until this past June because they have been the primary tool used to get reps to quit. Having accomplished the vast majority of that task, they are now being let go, finally, with full packages and pensions that have ripened and plenty of stock grants. It was all part of the company's long-term plan many years ago. None of this happens by chance, people.
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Is it just primary care CTLs that sometimes fall victim to Merck's downsizing now, or are they getting ready to lay into some of the specialty snakes, (oh I mean folks) like Women's Health, etc…

why does Merck insist on making CTLs rich?
 




Anonymous said:
The CTLs were immune to layoffs until this past June because they have been the primary tool used to get reps to quit. Having accomplished the vast majority of that task, they are now being let go, finally, with full packages and pensions that have ripened and plenty of stock grants. It was all part of the company's long-term plan many years ago. None of this happens by chance, people.
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No packages at all for many reps, even older reps who needed it but lost out by inches. By design?
 




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No packages at all for many reps, even older reps who needed it but lost out by inches. By design?
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Everything that's happened at Merck over the last several years has been by design. If it was determined that you would be gone, then it would have been so…or soon will be so. Every person targeted knows that they were/are targeted. It's very obvious. This company clearly sold its soul to maximize shareholder value at the expense of its employees. There is a special place in hell for those who willingly participated. Karma can bite pretty hard and in many different ways.
 




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Everything that's happened at Merck over the last several years has been by design. If it was determined that you would be gone, then it would have been so…or soon will be so. Every person targeted knows that they were/are targeted. It's very obvious. This company clearly sold its soul to maximize shareholder value at the expense of its employees. There is a special place in hell for those who willingly participated. Karma can bite pretty hard and in many different ways.
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good point about being targeted…I am here to tell you that you will definitely know when you have the target on your back…

1) Even veteran award winning reps will suddenly being able "to do nothing right" according to their CTL.

2) Field visits will increase, with threats of 3 day a month (consecutive days) being bandied about by the CTL.

3) The harder you try to do extra work to try and keep up on the hamster wheel, the more it will be ignored…(which further isolates and frustrates the rep.)

4) You will notice your pod mates starting to distance themselves from you, as news of your taint spreads…

5) Expect CTL to start saying things like, "This job isn't for everybody" or "Look at so-and-so and the work he/she is doing for the district.

Anyway, you get the picture people…there is no company more evil in this world than Merck…think that is an extreme statement?? Try being a rep for them as you approach your 50s…they don't play fair people, and they will lie and cheat to get you out…

FU MERCK!
 




Anonymous said:
Everything that's happened at Merck over the last several years has been by design. If it was determined that you would be gone, then it would have been so…or soon will be so. Every person targeted knows that they were/are targeted. It's very obvious. This company clearly sold its soul to maximize shareholder value at the expense of its employees. There is a special place in hell for those who willingly participated. Karma can bite pretty hard and in many different ways.
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The million dollar question is WHY are certain people targeted? Many were not high paid yet were highly qualified to do their job yet they were cut.

Is is all about perks for devish managers or something else?
 




Anonymous said:
Everything that's happened at Merck over the last several years has been by design. If it was determined that you would be gone, then it would have been so…or soon will be so. Every person targeted knows that they were/are targeted. It's very obvious. This company clearly sold its soul to maximize shareholder value at the expense of its employees. There is a special place in hell for those who willingly participated. Karma can bite pretty hard and in many different ways.
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think it could be a pay back. some connections up high to make it happen?

Hmmm. Ya think? Look at the history books it might be a clue!
 




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good point about being targeted…I am here to tell you that you will definitely know when you have the target on your back…

1) Even veteran award winning reps will suddenly being able "to do nothing right" according to their CTL.

2) Field visits will increase, with threats of 3 day a month (consecutive days) being bandied about by the CTL.

3) The harder you try to do extra work to try and keep up on the hamster wheel, the more it will be ignored…(which further isolates and frustrates the rep.)

4) You will notice your pod mates starting to distance themselves from you, as news of your taint spreads…

5) Expect CTL to start saying things like, "This job isn't for everybody" or "Look at so-and-so and the work he/she is doing for the district.

Anyway, you get the picture people…there is no company more evil in this world than Merck…think that is an extreme statement?? Try being a rep for them as you approach your 50s…they don't play fair people, and they will lie and cheat to get you out…

FU MERCK!
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Nailed it.
 




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The million dollar question is WHY are certain people targeted? Many were not high paid yet were highly qualified to do their job yet they were cut.

Is is all about perks for devish managers or something else?
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It's not just the salary. The bigger "qualifier" is your pension positioning (which includes your age).
 








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It's not just the salary. The bigger "qualifier" is your pension positioning (which includes your age).
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It is all about the pension and salaries. When you hit 20 years your pension goes up dramatically. Employees close to this mark have a target on their back. Those are the folks that really need to worry moving forward. Believe me that is what they really care about when they make the target list-not qualifications, results etc. Many have been forced out already with this as the primary reason.
 




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It is all about the pension and salaries. When you hit 20 years your pension goes up dramatically. Employees close to this mark have a target on their back. Those are the folks that really need to worry moving forward. Believe me that is what they really care about when they make the target list-not qualifications, results etc. Many have been forced out already with this as the primary reason.
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There were very good and loyal employees who were cut this round. Some were cut just short of their ten year eligibility mark by literally months or weeks!! Some were older employees. They lost out on the critical bridge needed for the pension to worth something beyond a few pennies. They are ineligible for the subsidized healthcare plan...which translated into no affordable plans here.

Shame on Merck or any company or manager who would do this to dedicated employees. There people should have been permitted to make it until the next wave or be bridged with the small amount of time they needed. Making people lose out on the bridge they've spend years working toward is nothing short of wicked and despicable!

If there are any special programs for the big shots (who btw rarely need special programs due to their massive incomes and payoffs)........it needs to be given to these older employees who were royally screwed. They should be bridged or retained.
 




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It is all about the pension and salaries. When you hit 20 years your pension goes up dramatically. Employees close to this mark have a target on their back. Those are the folks that really need to worry moving forward. Believe me that is what they really care about when they make the target list-not qualifications, results etc. Many have been forced out already with this as the primary reason.
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That actually happens at the 15-year mark. That's when the real growth begins. Your second 15 years in a 30-year career is worth about ten times what the first 15 years was worth. Go figure.
 




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That actually happens at the 15-year mark. That's when the real growth begins. Your second 15 years in a 30-year career is worth about ten times what the first 15 years was worth. Go figure.
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It kind of sounds like Merck doesn't intend to let anyone get to that second 15 years, huh? This back-loading of the pensions is just another in a long list of f--kovers for Merck employees. This company is an atrocity.
 




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It kind of sounds like Merck doesn't intend to let anyone get to that second 15 years, huh? This back-loading of the pensions is just another in a long list of f--kovers for Merck employees. This company is an atrocity.
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Atrocity may be the best word I have heard to describe it...

The Ponzi scheme that Merck is, insures that management wins, and everybody else (except for a few "lucky" chosen few,) loses...

It only works because Merck is a huge, multi-national, with tons of cash, and now fun by lawyers to boot...

That leaves the average rep little to no recourse when their Merck CTL harasses them out of the company. You literally can not fight their criminality because they are too big and too powerful.

that is why most people end up on Xanax and then eventually quit...
 




Anonymous said:
Atrocity may be the best word I have heard to describe it...

The Ponzi scheme that Merck is, insures that management wins, and everybody else (except for a few "lucky" chosen few,) loses...

It only works because Merck is a huge, multi-national, with tons of cash, and now fun by lawyers to boot...

That leaves the average rep little to no recourse when their Merck CTL harasses them out of the company. You literally can not fight their criminality because they are too big and too powerful.

that is why most people end up on Xanax and then eventually quit...
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I've personally watched four of my Merck friends do exactly that. Xanax, the brink of insanity, then a sheepish resignation to escape the living hell.

As for me, I believe I'll tell my CTL to go f--k himself and maybe even smack him in the head for good measure. At the very least, his tires all get slashed and I Round Up his entire lawn.
 




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I've personally watched four of my Merck friends do exactly that. Xanax, the brink of insanity, then a sheepish resignation to escape the living hell.

As for me, I believe I'll tell my CTL to go f--k himself and maybe even smack him in the head for good measure. At the very least, his tires all get slashed and I Round Up his entire lawn.
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I've seen this happen too. There was a real jag-off for a CTL that was just let go that cycled through about 10 people he "managed out." I do believe in Karma...it just may take longer for some.
 




I have no sympathy for the CTL's. That said, their "Come to Jesus" meeting is even worst than ours. I have seen managers intimidated and scared. They have been told to go get rid of the reps or they will lose their jobs.
 




Makes me count my blessings. I got the last of the best severance and "awarded" a bridge to retirement by the skin of my teeth end of 2011. We were told this was the last of the best payouts and now I know that was true. I appreciate the access to retirement benefits and keeping my whole pension. Reading these threads humbles me and helps me to count my blessings I was able to be access to the best of a bad situation. My heart reaches out to all you going through this with much dire payouts. Not been fun since my Merck days but at least I was left with 15 years of a golden parachute. Hang tough people.
 




If you do not performance manage representatives, you are not "doing" your job, and will get performances managed yourself. This has been told to me straight up. Those reps in the lower or bottom PDO buckets are the ones identified to performance manage. Last September there were coaching memos given to folks who were in lower or bottom 2 out of the last 3 years. This was driven by DCO's and VPCO's.

The problem as I see it is two fold:

First, forced distribution is a terrible way to evaluate talent in a tenured salesforce. This leads to performance management whether or not you agree with it as a CTL.

I have been told to work on people who have been "around a while" and have lower PDO's, despite they have had past pyramid awards, etc. Is this another way to say older, more expensive employees.


I am sorry, but this is an ugly part of the J-O-B!
 




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