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Why Are They Hurting Us Like This?

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anonymous said:
Move ON!!!! Genentech doesn’t owe you a damn thing. The standard package is 2 weeks per year and they gave more. Be greatf and thankful!
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Omg. You’re a complete dick. Stay off here. You have no business on here you jackss trouble maker. We can only pray this happens to you. That would make my whole year!!!!
 






anonymous said:
I came over to launch Ocrevus and be part of a new start up Sales Force. I was very successful with my old company. I can remember how happy I was to come to work for one of the best companies in our industry. I was part of the most successful launch in Genentech’s history.

I am now devastated. I am the bread winner for my large family. I am now very depressed, and am trying to figure out what action to best take financially care of my family. I have lost all faith in Genentech, and am confused why they are treating us like garbage. After todays call, and all the patronizing comments from Senior Leadership ( who are all keeping their jobs ) I am totally lost, and even more depressed.

Good luck to all the great CS’s in this franchise. It was great meeting and working with all of you. God Bless
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Personal Responsibility. Keep your family and finances out of this. Noone cares. It’s your fault for being unprepared. Be happy with what you’re given. You’re an At Will employee. Next thing out of your mouth is that Liberal Union crap and how you wish you were part of one. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Good luck
 






anonymous said:
Personal Responsibility. Keep your family and finances out of this. Noone cares. It’s your fault for being unprepared. Be happy with what you’re given. You’re an At Will employee. Next thing out of your mouth is that Liberal Union crap and how you wish you were part of one. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Good luck
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Ignore the troll under the bridge.
 






...Anyhow, besides the spawn of Satan who can’t shut his trap, this situation just isnt right. No one divided to leave their great jobs to come to a temporary two year job. This isn’t a contract job and the expectation through all the interviews was this was a company you would retire with.

I’m reading this thread tonight thinking that everyone has an agenda and I wonder who this idiot is. He constantly is on this site. Clearly they have no life and some other agenda as well.
 






anonymous said:
...Anyhow, besides the spawn of Satan who can’t shut his trap, this situation just isnt right. No one divided to leave their great jobs to come to a temporary two year job. This isn’t a contract job and the expectation through all the interviews was this was a company you would retire with.

I’m reading this thread tonight thinking that everyone has an agenda and I wonder who this idiot is. He constantly is on this site. Clearly they have no life and some other agenda as well.
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Every job is a “contract” job. Let me guess, you turned your nose at contract reps. Your entitlement kills me. Do you know what “At Will” means? And retire with? I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. You deserve 2 weeks for every year worked just like everyone else.
 






anonymous said:
Every job is a “contract” job. Let me guess, you turned your nose at contract reps. Your entitlement kills me. Do you know what “At Will” means? And retire with? I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. You deserve 2 weeks for every year worked just like everyone else.
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Crawl back under your Brooklyn bridge, troll. No one cares what you think and you don't work for GNE.
 






anonymous said:
I came over to launch Ocrevus and be part of a new start up Sales Force. I was very successful with my old company. I can remember how happy I was to come to work for one of the best companies in our industry. I was part of the most successful launch in Genentech’s history.

I am now devastated. I am the bread winner for my large family. I am now very depressed, and am trying to figure out what action to best take financially care of my family. I have lost all faith in Genentech, and am confused why they are treating us like garbage. After todays call, and all the patronizing comments from Senior Leadership ( who are all keeping their jobs ) I am totally lost, and even more depressed.

Good luck to all the great CS’s in this franchise. It was great meeting and working with all of you. God Bless
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I’m in lytics and the OCRE franchise has been a hot topic. All of us realize this has nothing to do with individual performance and is territory driven. We believe positions will be created and they will find jobs for everyone. So please have hope and hang in there. I truly believe that at the end of the day, a position will always be found for a good employee and it won’t require a move. Genentech knows the importance of not losing good people. I’ve seen your numbers and the OCRE team has killed it. Stay tough and don’t listen to naysayers.
 






anonymous said:
I’m in lytics and the OCRE franchise has been a hot topic. All of us realize this has nothing to do with individual performance and is territory driven. We believe positions will be created and they will find jobs for everyone. So please have hope and hang in there. I truly believe that at the end of the day, a position will always be found for a good employee and it won’t require a move. Genentech knows the importance of not losing good people. I’ve seen your numbers and the OCRE team has killed it. Stay tough and don’t listen to naysayers.
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I think this as well. Plus it will be good for GNE to say this person was moved into this other role.
 












It’s mind boggling to read the entitlement perspectives here. Every business seeks to operate with just the right number of employees and sometimes slightly fewer than ideal.

No employer can afford to have people on payroll that they do not need. That’s so basic. The only exception to that rule of business is government and they can only do it because their funding comes from taxes.

Suggest you trying living in the real world instead of Pharma fantasy land.
 












Nobody wants to be let go, but the Oncology reps who were severed got great packages and everyone I know that got let go is working for a decent company with as good or better compensation.
 






anonymous said:
Nobody wants to be let go, but the Oncology reps who were severed got great packages and everyone I know that got let go is working for a decent company with as good or better compensation.
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Please elaborate on the Oncology packages.

The MS Franchise is made up of recent hires that were very successful and talented from the companies they left. They didn’t come here as a 2 year contract force. They were baited with a message about a strong future at a great company. No one would have left their former company for a 2 year contract job. Bottom line is Genentech practiced bait and switch on these folks. Now they are letting them go with a pittance of a severance since they have only been here 2 years. Personally I find it disgusting that Genentech would treat them in such a way. Only thing they can do at this point is to give them a huge severance as a result of misleading them, and using their relationships to get Ocrevus off the ground.
 






anonymous said:
Please elaborate on the Oncology packages.

The MS Franchise is made up of recent hires that were very successful and talented from the companies they left. They didn’t come here as a 2 year contract force. They were baited with a message about a strong future at a great company. No one would have left their former company for a 2 year contract job. Bottom line is Genentech practiced bait and switch on these folks. Now they are letting them go with a pittance of a severance since they have only been here 2 years. Personally I find it disgusting that Genentech would treat them in such a way. Only thing they can do at this point is to give them a huge severance as a result of misleading them, and using their relationships to get Ocrevus off the ground.
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Everyone is agreement on this! The morale is gone and no one is proud to work here anymore. They have slapped everyone in the face and sent a clear message that they don’t care about the people they hire. Would have been nice to know this before quitting my other job.
 












anonymous said:
Everyone is agreement on this! The morale is gone and no one is proud to work here anymore. They have slapped everyone in the face and sent a clear message that they don’t care about the people they hire. Would have been nice to know this before quitting my other job.
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Totally agree. If most had known they were just going to be using us for our relationships we would have never come here. Most disgusting thing I have seen from a company.
 






You can thank Bill Anderson for your misery. He demands lean teams and he does not see long-term value in salespeople. You are viewed as an expendable resource. Think long and hard about taking another position in the company if you are displaced. You would likely be signing up for more of the same bs.
 






anonymous said:
You can thank Bill Anderson for your misery. He demands lean teams and he does not see long-term value in salespeople. You are viewed as an expendable resource. Think long and hard about taking another position in the company if you are displaced. You would likely be signing up for more of the same bs.
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There is no long term value in sales people. The drug sales itself.
 






anonymous said:
You can thank Bill Anderson for your misery. He demands lean teams and he does not see long-term value in salespeople. You are viewed as an expendable resource. Think long and hard about taking another position in the company if you are displaced. You would likely be signing up for more of the same bs.
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Thankfully I was BOLDed and got the hell out. Turned down headhunters all of 17' hoping to be BOLDed. This statement is spot on and ALL of BioOnc knows round two is coming soon. IDK what the MS space is like regarding opportunity but those who survive this can expect round 2 in 2019 or 2020. Your marketing team will live through this in 2019 if not sooner. ALL BioOnc marketing teams in SSF going through 'optimization' now.
 






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