Why are so many people leaving GSK (Viiv, VBU, USPHARMA)?

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The answer to the original question is simple -
“GSK sucks ass.”

Now there are a lot of factors that lead to this, but that’s the cumulative outcome, and it’s beyond fixing. GSK is doomed to suck ass for the duration of its existence.
 






anonymous said:
Great salary + bonus. A company vehicle. Health Benefits. A generous 401k. A week off at xmas + additional vacation. And people are leaving! Why? For all the reasons I listed, I ask again, why? No logical human being would give up something so valuable. Unless...there is poor leadership. Punitive leadership. Top down militaristic leadership. Toxicity from management. Human beings will tolerate a lot when they are making a good living. However, at some point, it's just not worth it! People are leaving and taking pay cuts. Giving up precious vacation time. That's how bad its become. Been that way for a long time and people are fed up. It's really that simple and as plain as day.
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I left after 25 plus years because another company was willing to pay me about $40,000 more per year with similar benefits. Had nothing to do with leadership style , lost one week of vacation, but realistically we can take as much time as we need now that we can have “virtual” interaction with customers.
 






anonymous said:
I left after 25 plus years because another company was willing to pay me about $40,000 more per year with similar benefits. Had nothing to do with leadership style , lost one week of vacation, but realistically we can take as much time as we need now that we can have “virtual” interaction with customers.
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25 years delivering bagels??? Oh you moved up by making $3000 more a month doing the same thing? Boy you have a lot of ambition!
 






GSK is the laughing stock of the industry. It is a failing company with inept managers and VP's everywhere you look. No pipeline. Piss poor marketing teams. Shady incentive compensation practices with minimal to no payouts. And the list can go on.
 












With the company splitting there will be even more pressure for the pharmaceutical sector to perform and stand on it's own two feet. Time will tell if the new pharma company will continue to trip over it's own two feet and eventually fall and die a slow death or it actually stands up and gets stronger.
Either way it will be a rough couple years in pharmaceuticals at GSK. Hold on for the ride or get out ASAP.
 






Leaders cannot get out of their own way. Constant intrusions, meetings, metric monitoring, and a "coco" mentality. When you have a system that measure you on COCO, a verbatim dialogue that has an algorithm for responses, you have hired robots. Robots do not make mistakes. They are inanimate objects that execute actions that they have been programed to do. So if we robots are doing what we are being told to do, who is at fault for the company's failures? Years and decades of failures! Layoff after layoff. Lousy product launches and corporate scandals. Corporate culture that is the worst in the industry. So to your question, why are people leaving? I think we all know why.
 


















anonymous said:
Leaders cannot get out of their own way. Constant intrusions, meetings, metric monitoring, and a "coco" mentality. When you have a system that measure you on COCO, a verbatim dialogue that has an algorithm for responses, you have hired robots. Robots do not make mistakes. They are inanimate objects that execute actions that they have been programed to do. So if we robots are doing what we are being told to do, who is at fault for the company's failures? Years and decades of failures! Layoff after layoff. Lousy product launches and corporate scandals. Corporate culture that is the worst in the industry. So to your question, why are people leaving? I think we all know why.
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Your analysis makes too much sense for GSK management to grasp.
 






anonymous said:
Haha. That’s hilarious! I’m at another pharma company now and I can tell you that GSK is a laughing stock in the industry. All due to arrogant, insecure leaders.
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I waited for the package.....raised my hand.........received it........and already have a job within 3.5 months after multiple offers....Thank you GSK.......now it is my turn. I blame a lot of the mismanagement on the Human Resources side of the fence. GSK is focused on "leadership development" but somehow manages to retain those "young inexperienced people" only if they make them Directors/Sr Directors before they are 30 years old with little to no successful "leadership" positions....they may have team experience but nothing that demonstrates their ability to identify and hire good employees or create a strategy to launch and sell products. You do not see that type of responsibility handed out at other companies......it needs to be earned, regardles of the gene pool. GSK thinks they can "dummy down" the leadership of the company.....make it less expensive.....and still make it to the top.........what it guarantees is a one way trip to the bottom, which is happening in those Product areas and BU's where this type of management was implemented. We used to have leaders who had the qualities that I saw lacking in my final years at GSK, but they all left........I have found they are still out there and working as leaders....and in higher leadership positions in the companies that GSK now competes against..........This mess was created over the last 10 years of GSK with it's roots in the Witty, Diedre and J Bailey crew......it is going to take more than "culture management" to right this ship. So long to all of GSK, as I work for Amgen launching a new product that is going to bury Nucala, working in my new sales group that is led by a former GSK director who left 6 years ago because management was blind to his talents.
 






anonymous said:
With the company splitting there will be even more pressure for the pharmaceutical sector to perform and stand on it's own two feet. Time will tell if the new pharma company will continue to trip over it's own two feet and eventually fall and die a slow death or it actually stands up and gets stronger.
Either way it will be a rough couple years in pharmaceuticals at GSK. Hold on for the ride or get out ASAP.
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Two reasons people are leaving: (1) Packages were offered and the smart people who could retire took them because it is a high probability those packages will not be available again.,(2) For those who remain, new management is heavily scrutinizing them and providing clear cut messages to those they do not like; those individuals are leaving and allowing the new management to bring in "their own people". In the past, this led to GSK becoming a haven for Eli Lilly people who were at best........inept.

So I guess we will see what happens this time around.......so far it seems encouraging........but always remember......."meet the new boss.......same as the old boss".....Baba O'Reilly/Who's Next.
 






Laid off, packaged out in 2015. Best thing that happened to my career. I suppose one could say I stayed too long and that’s true. Made some amazing life long friends along the way though. The bottom line is the culture and leadership has been and still is rotten. Before these putative leaders completely destroy what’s left best to hand the keys over to a an adult, sober minded driver. That’s putting Patients First.
 






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