Whats the deal with Titan Medical

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They are the future of robotics. Significantly lower capital cost than Intuitive and Tactile Feedback for the surgeon. Hospitals and surgeons have been forced to do business and pay outrageous prices to Intuitive due to the monopoly they currently have...customers will be salivating to have another option in the robotics market. Get yourself some stock before it blows up!
 






ah yes...the "iPhone killer".

Wake me when they sell a single system in my market. Tactile feedback...um, I doubt they will own the patent on that. If that proves to be selling point (it's simply a feature, not a reason to spend a $1M) IS will simply add it, or something like it.

Why buy Titan stock when you can buy ISRG stock based on real (not hope to be) $$$
 






hey inexperienced trader, the reason you buy Titan Stock is because its at 65 cents a share and speculation could drive it to $2 dollars pretty quickly, tripling your investment.

So go buy Intuitive stock at $275 per share and your 20 shares would have to Jump to about $850 for you to triple your money, which in case your wondering, that WILL NOT happen.

Not a whole lot of leverage with Intuitive stock.


Titan's robots won't cost a million, and they will most likely be better than ISRGs robots and with all the hand gernades Intuitive has lobbed at hospitals after they guerilla slam their robots in with unethical sales tactics, their customers who they treated so badly will be ripe for the pickings.

Enjoy Intuitive while you can, most don't stay their long.

There's a bright side to all of this, perhaps one day you will be working for the competition...Titan Medical.
 












with all of the IP Intuitive has locked up around Robotic systems wont that make it almost impossible for Titan to actually come to market with a competing system? I know they have something close to commercialization but how can their system exist with all of the protected IP Intuitive owns?
 






Well sounds like your an Intuitive employee who spent too much time drinking the company kool aid and not enough time thinking for yourself, don't worry youre not alone it's something that many of Intuitives employees do.

many of ISRG's patents will be up in 2012.

Enter Titan,


now watch Intuitive try to compete like JNJ has to now and has lost considerable market share.

Ha ha ha.

Titan's stock is moving up, up, up was about 25 cents 2 months ago, now, 95 cents, 330 percent growth. could be really nice in a year if it keeps moving in the same direction...
 






The previous post states that patent infringement by Titan is no problem due to the ending of many patents of ISRG by 2012.

However, ISRG is known to defend their IP in an agressive manner to knock out competition. I state that they (i.e. ISRG) will be able to maintain a strong IP portfolio by making small technological changes and thereby restore/renew IP rights. In that way they will be able to keep a firm grip on the market and still be able to destroy possible competition, even long after 2012.

So I think Titan must have found another method to circumvent the problem with IP infringement of Intuitive's IP. Does somebody have a clue about the strategy of Titan concerning this matter?
 






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The previous post states that patent infringement by Titan is no problem due to the ending of many patents of ISRG by 2012.

However, ISRG is known to defend their IP in an agressive manner to knock out competition. I state that they (i.e. ISRG) will be able to maintain a strong IP portfolio by making small technological changes and thereby restore/renew IP rights. In that way they will be able to keep a firm grip on the market and still be able to destroy possible competition, even long after 2012.

So I think Titan must have found another method to circumvent the problem with IP infringement of Intuitive's IP. Does somebody have a clue about the strategy of Titan concerning this matter?
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All I know is there stock is up to $2! not bad when you invested 60 cents a share! wooo hoo! go Titan!
 






I'm not sure exactly what the claims are in the Intuitive IP, but there are couple other surgical systems in the market (smaller and definitely not as successful....RoboDoc, Acrobot, Cyberknife) that are different but function in a lot of similar ways and they all got around the IP. - which to me suggests that the claims are probably more specific to how the da Vinci does what it does - and not so general - so there are opportunities for finding new engineering solutions to accomplish the same tasks. I think the big difference between the Amadeus and Da Vinci is that the Amadeus is putting more emphasis on their Haptics capability and the Telesurgical capabilities - I read somewhere that Titan has the current record for longest distance telesurgery...but dont quote me.
 






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I'm not sure exactly what the claims are in the Intuitive IP, but there are couple other surgical systems in the market (smaller and definitely not as successful....RoboDoc, Acrobot, Cyberknife) that are different but function in a lot of similar ways and they all got around the IP. - which to me suggests that the claims are probably more specific to how the da Vinci does what it does - and not so general - so there are opportunities for finding new engineering solutions to accomplish the same tasks. I think the big difference between the Amadeus and Da Vinci is that the Amadeus is putting more emphasis on their Haptics capability and the Telesurgical capabilities - I read somewhere that Titan has the current record for longest distance telesurgery...but dont quote me.
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Titan stock is up to $2.30 per share from .30 cents a share a few months ago, only about 800 percent.

THat performance is impressive.

How is Intuitive's stock doing??
 






Anonymous said:
Titan stock is up to $2.30 per share from .30 cents a share a few months ago, only about 800 percent.

THat performance is impressive.

How is Intuitive's stock doing??
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What a great investment!!!! and they haven't even set a launch date for their system!!! sky's the limit for those of us that invested in Titan early...... the only question now is do you invest more when it is already at $2.30????
 






Anonymous said:
What a great investment!!!! and they haven't even set a launch date for their system!!! sky's the limit for those of us that invested in Titan early...... the only question now is do you invest more when it is already at $2.30????
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Good question. I'm wondering the same thing. Fact of the matter, is this is still a penny stock (anything less than $5). Penny stocks are very volatile and this growth isn't out of the ordinary. Problem is that it could drop at any time. This is a Canadian stock, and I'm wondering what the regulations are on buying and selling. Just like any penny stock, when the stock is doing well there is a tendency to sell right away...Because the stock isn't worth that much to begin with the stock then plummets very quickly. Be careful...
 






Anonymous said:
I'm not sure exactly what the claims are in the Intuitive IP, but there are couple other surgical systems in the market (smaller and definitely not as successful....RoboDoc, Acrobot, Cyberknife) that are different but function in a lot of similar ways and they all got around the IP. - which to me suggests that the claims are probably more specific to how the da Vinci does what it does - and not so general - so there are opportunities for finding new engineering solutions to accomplish the same tasks. I think the big difference between the Amadeus and Da Vinci is that the Amadeus is putting more emphasis on their Haptics capability and the Telesurgical capabilities - I read somewhere that Titan has the current record for longest distance telesurgery...but dont quote me.
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Intuitive has a significant portfolio of IP. This portfolio does consist of quite general patents, for example a patent on telesurgery (I heard). Maybe these patents are ridiculous and not very strong to hold/ defend. However, which small start-up company is able to win, read finance, the exhausting (if Intuitive wants almost endless) battle of going to court? So even if their patent makes no sense, you won't win because of the financial capital required to keep your lawyers going. So I can't believe that Titan is able to engineer around it. So what is the secret of Titan to make this work without problems with patent infringement?

The argument of 'who cares, the stock prices are going up and up' is tricky in my opinion, because if they are sued by Intuitive they might go down and down.
 






Cyberknife is radiation, not actual surgery like the dV.

Titan, imho, is taking notes from ISI and their customers and will plan to do exactly the opposite. Titan will probably target small hospitals or hospitals that haven't pulled the trigger on a system yet (Consider there are over 6000 hospitals in the US, and 1200 or so dV's have been sold. Many hospitals have more than one.) and offer a robot at $500K or so.

ISI is preparing for this by taking back all the old 1st gen robots. They'll refurbish them and sell them around the same price....or try to enter 3rd world countries with them. Hospitals have been abused by ISI and they will make it known. Only problem is, everyone at ISI has made the money they wanted so they won't learn a lesson. These people don't care about karma and will just move on to something else. In the end, ISI will make a ton of cash by using unethical practices (both w/ employees and with customers) and ultimately win. Unless they get taken down from, just guessing here, cooking the books by claiming more surgeries than actually have taken place. But who knows? Just a shot in the dark.
 






Yes,I've heard that from people who used to work at Intuitive, that number of surgeries where the robot is supposedly being used is inflated, maybe by a lot.


How is this tracked?? I've been told its the honor system.

Funny thing is, the reps who report the procedures on a their personal computers are compensated by Intuitive per procedure.


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Cyberknife is radiation, not actual surgery like the dV.

Titan, imho, is taking notes from ISI and their customers and will plan to do exactly the opposite. Titan will probably target small hospitals or hospitals that haven't pulled the trigger on a system yet (Consider there are over 6000 hospitals in the US, and 1200 or so dV's have been sold. Many hospitals have more than one.) and offer a robot at $500K or so.

ISI is preparing for this by taking back all the old 1st gen robots. They'll refurbish them and sell them around the same price....or try to enter 3rd world countries with them. Hospitals have been abused by ISI and they will make it known. Only problem is, everyone at ISI has made the money they wanted so they won't learn a lesson. These people don't care about karma and will just move on to something else. In the end, ISI will make a ton of cash by using unethical practices (both w/ employees and with customers) and ultimately win. Unless they get taken down from, just guessing here, cooking the books by claiming more surgeries than actually have taken place. But who knows? Just a shot in the dark.
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The Titan medical robotic arms move in a snake like fashion. In laparoscopic surgery, access is king. This will allow better access, which means more utilization, which means a stock price that will do nothing but rise. Grab it up ladies and gentlemen. This is a keeper!
 












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