What if people liked working here?

"If I ruled the world...
I'd free all my sons (I love em love em baby!)
Black diamonds and pearls (could it be, if you could be mine we'd both shine)
If I ruled the world"

You take yourselves WAY too seriously, my fellow Novartians. Siiing with me.

"And then we'll walk right up to the sun, hand in hand..."
 






I don't understand why all posts aren't allowed on an anonymous board like CP. Part of the internet experience is being able to filter the truth out of all of the rest of the hating untruths. I haven't posted anything specific to an individual although I see many that do, and when the target is someone I know personally, the post is invariably accurate.
 






If people liked working here there'd be;
no discrimination lawsuits
no 'tobi' 72 milion $ lawsuit
no off lable 'no contest' 430 million $ lawsuit
no 27 million annual CEO
no need for cafefarmer

BRAVO, BRAVO.

A corporation will piss on you and call it "rain."

In an ideal world, No far tus would have ethical leaders, and not a schmuck
j o e al q ue da jim en e z.
 






You are a fucking clown ! Go join the circus with this kool aid act.
I been hearing this pipeline crap for over a decade & there is nothing but me too
garbage or useless crap like starlix , zolair , zelnorm , fanapt etc etc etc etc etc
People I know that took pride were pipped out or layed off .
Oncology was humiliated with fucking prius's in some lame psychological war.
Neuro was totally dicked on the MS drug & underperforming overpaid outsiders were brought with little to show for it.

This dung company was fined over 1/2 BILLION by the feds for inept corrupt management
not including the gender discrimination debacle

Have fun at ringling bros you tool !

BOZO... Have you seen that Novartis stock lately? It probably doesn't concern you because you have probably NEVER EARNED stock-options. Anyway, I think I might cash-out mine today for a quick and easy 10G or maybe I will just watch it go up some more while you babies cry about something else.
 






Many people do like working here. But you can't post about it! There is concerted effort to remove positive posts. Now if you bitch, say HR is all wrong, everyone in any position but rep is horrible, name names and sling shit, why that is OK! BTW, older female here and like working here. Better than most places I've been. Of course I'm not an idiot and don't think this is my family, understand it is not socialism and their job is not to take care of me, and that I have a job to do and that I am totally replaceable. Oh, and if someone else gets a promotion over me, it might just be because they were more qualified.

Well so far we've heard from two? That kool aid must taste like wine to you cause you are definitely drunk. This is a shit hole of a company that doesn't give a damn about anyone but upper management. You're right, there's no family or any chance to feel that way. I pity you big pharma lifers cause you've never had the chance to work for a company that actually cares whether the reps live or die. You must love being just a number. My tenure with Novartis was only 7 years and it was clear that this is BY FAR the worst company to work for in pharma. The rest, even the other big companies aren't even in their league when it comes to anal, egotistical, try and lead by intimidation, know it all, only out for themselves buttheads they call upper management. Most of them couldn't sell water to thirsty man much less show the reps how to market pharma products. Enjoy your time in this cesspool. Maybe when you get laid off this December you'll find out it ain't about the sales force it's all about management! It has to be because they're the only ones smart enough to screw something up this badly!
 






BOZO... Have you seen that Novartis stock lately? It probably doesn't concern you because you have probably NEVER EARNED stock-options. Anyway, I think I might cash-out mine today for a quick and easy 10G or maybe I will just watch it go up some more while you babies cry about something else.

Unless you're vasella you aint makin dick off this inflated stock.
This is what the enron managers were pumping to their minions too.

This 4th rate pharma co ( pharma in the loosest sense of the word)
is a generic player & now big into eye care. Their actual branded pharma
sucks ass with me too's & never were.

If banks offered a decent interest rate , the entire ponzi scheme stock market would
collapse including this 2 bit joke of a swiss cheese company

I'd finish by calling you a moron but in your case it would be a compliment

Now go sell your kool aid to the 20 something year old army of copier type salespeople
this sham swiss nazi co. plans on hiring with their ipads .

Fuckn clown !
 






Unless you're vasella you aint makin dick off this inflated stock.
This is what the enron managers were pumping to their minions too.

This 4th rate pharma co ( pharma in the loosest sense of the word)
is a generic player & now big into eye care. Their actual branded pharma
sucks ass with me too's & never were.

If banks offered a decent interest rate , the entire ponzi scheme stock market would
collapse including this 2 bit joke of a swiss cheese company

I'd finish by calling you a moron but in your case it would be a compliment

Now go sell your kool aid to the 20 something year old army of copier type salespeople
this sham swiss nazi co. plans on hiring with their ipads .

Fuckn clown !

Please explain to me why I can't remind these people that Novartis hit a NEW 52-week high in the stock market. And because of that and the stock options that I cashed-in, I made $12,000 today.... why can't I refute these malcontents with this HONEST INFORMATION? I am not using FOUL language, I am NOT directly confronting anyone with name-calling, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. All these people are allowed to BASH Novartis with WILD conspiracy theories and I am giving them a dose of reality.... that despite how awful they want to portray Novartis, Novartis stock has been SOARING.
 






Please explain to me why I can't remind these people that Novartis hit a NEW 52-week high in the stock market. And because of that and the stock options that I cashed-in, I made $12,000 today.... why can't I refute these malcontents with this HONEST INFORMATION? I am not using FOUL language, I am NOT directly confronting anyone with name-calling, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. All these people are allowed to BASH Novartis with WILD conspiracy theories and I am giving them a dose of reality.... that despite how awful they want to portray Novartis, Novartis stock has been SOARING.

Yep, and I have almost 2000 RSUs so worth a bundle. I have been treated better here than anywhere I have worked previously, large and small companies, over 25 years in the biz, female over 50! No, you don't here these stories here because this is a bitch board for malcontents. When you can post anonymously, unchallenged, and want to vent where no one will fact check or call you on your lies so long as you are negative, this is what you get. It's not just the stock that is good. Check out other company oncology pipelines. Check out the koolaid other companies try to sell instead of admitting that times are going to be hard for a couple years and then very specific things must happen for it to turn around.

Yeah, there were some really bad managers and an HR that made it worse, thinking they should always protect the manager instead of properly investigating. Still, the suit was an injustice on many levels. I don't disagree with the dollar amount but it should have only been paid to women who had the guts to challenge the company and who had facts and evidence on their side. A few really horrible situations does not make a horrible company overall and paying all women is wrong and sets us all up for animosity. The only one not protected are white males under 40 and the suit was an overcorrection. Now there are posts about wanting across the board salary increases. Sorry, but I made less for years because I chose the mommy track, willingly, happily, and with planning. My income now rivals any man because of coaching by some great mentors that directed me when kids were grown and I was ready for a different track. We all know, no matter our job or job level, most of our satisfaction or disatisfaction comes down to the manager we report to. I also know many women and minorities who are far too quick to scream discrimination instead of looking at what they could do, say, or present differently. I am VERY thankful for the men who took the time to mentor me through my career and helped me navigate, especially through years when there were babies or priorities ahead of work. Their knowledge kept my career on track when I could have derailed it, or had it derailed. Their knowledge of the game was priceless.

At the end of the day, we spend far too much of our time in our jobs to be miserable. If you're jusst blowing steam, fine. But if you are one of the negative posters and are really this unhappy and this angry, really think the company is evil, than you owe it to yourself to do something else. Different company, different industry, go back to school. Do something besides mud slinging and spewing negativity.

For me, the job is awesome. The oncology products are cutting edge. Gleevec changed so many lives and now cml patients survive as long as non-cancer patients. Tasigna is even better. My pay is incredible. Goals need some work but are never perfect with any company and at least there was a conscious effort to look at what needed to change. My pay is fantastic, there are no prius's here, and this job gives me the ability to take care of my family, buy a new home, pursue hobbies and vacations, and to retire relatively comfortably. I'm proud of what I do. If you aren't, you are hurting yourself far more than anyone else by staying. I hope you find what you are looking for.
 






Please explain to me why I can't remind these people that Novartis hit a NEW 52-week high in the stock market. And because of that and the stock options that I cashed-in, I made $12,000 today.... , Novartis stock has been SOARING.

Yawn , boring. Good for you & your 12K
money money money ! You are a real inspiration to mankind
a perfect fit for novartisk tisk tisk
Jesus would've loved you at the temples
 






Yawn , boring. Good for you & your 12K
money money money ! You are a real inspiration to mankind
a perfect fit for novartisk tisk tisk
Jesus would've loved you at the temples

So why are you working? For most of us, it is to earn a paycheck and to provide for our families. So if it isn't about the money for you, why don't you just volunteer?
 






So why are you working? For most of us, it is to earn a paycheck and to provide for our families. So if it isn't about the money for you, why don't you just volunteer?

I thought we were working " to improve patients lives " ?

Oh wait , perhaps that's only when the company is not getting indicted by the unites states of america & fined for off lable selling , kick backs , gender discrimination , medicare & medicaid fraud (so far).

At least you supposedly made a few bucks on your options & after all , that's all that matters to you & your ilk.
 






Yep, and I have almost 2000 RSUs so worth a bundle. I have been treated better here than anywhere I have worked previously, large and small companies, over 25 years in the biz, female over 50! No, you don't here these stories here because this is a bitch board for malcontents. When you can post anonymously, unchallenged, and want to vent where no one will fact check or call you on your lies so long as you are negative, this is what you get. It's not just the stock that is good. Check out other company oncology pipelines. Check out the koolaid other companies try to sell instead of admitting that times are going to be hard for a couple years and then very specific things must happen for it to turn around.

Yeah, there were some really bad managers and an HR that made it worse, thinking they should always protect the manager instead of properly investigating. Still, the suit was an injustice on many levels. I don't disagree with the dollar amount but it should have only been paid to women who had the guts to challenge the company and who had facts and evidence on their side. A few really horrible situations does not make a horrible company overall and paying all women is wrong and sets us all up for animosity. The only one not protected are white males under 40 and the suit was an overcorrection. Now there are posts about wanting across the board salary increases. Sorry, but I made less for years because I chose the mommy track, willingly, happily, and with planning. My income now rivals any man because of coaching by some great mentors that directed me when kids were grown and I was ready for a different track. We all know, no matter our job or job level, most of our satisfaction or disatisfaction comes down to the manager we report to. I also know many women and minorities who are far too quick to scream discrimination instead of looking at what they could do, say, or present differently. I am VERY thankful for the men who took the time to mentor me through my career and helped me navigate, especially through years when there were babies or priorities ahead of work. Their knowledge kept my career on track when I could have derailed it, or had it derailed. Their knowledge of the game was priceless.

At the end of the day, we spend far too much of our time in our jobs to be miserable. If you're jusst blowing steam, fine. But if you are one of the negative posters and are really this unhappy and this angry, really think the company is evil, than you owe it to yourself to do something else. Different company, different industry, go back to school. Do something besides mud slinging and spewing negativity.

For me, the job is awesome. The oncology products are cutting edge. Gleevec changed so many lives and now cml patients survive as long as non-cancer patients. Tasigna is even better. My pay is incredible. Goals need some work but are never perfect with any company and at least there was a conscious effort to look at what needed to change. My pay is fantastic, there are no prius's here, and this job gives me the ability to take care of my family, buy a new home, pursue hobbies and vacations, and to retire relatively comfortably. I'm proud of what I do. If you aren't, you are hurting yourself far more than anyone else by staying. I hope you find what you are looking for.

Thank you for your awesome post.... I sincerely mean that. You have it EXACTLY RIGHT.
 












Yep, and I have almost 2000 RSUs so worth a bundle. I have been treated better here than anywhere I have worked previously, large and small companies, over 25 years in the biz, female over 50! No, you don't here these stories here because this is a bitch board for malcontents. When you can post anonymously, unchallenged, and want to vent where no one will fact check or call you on your lies so long as you are negative, this is what you get. It's not just the stock that is good. Check out other company oncology pipelines. Check out the koolaid other companies try to sell instead of admitting that times are going to be hard for a couple years and then very specific things must happen for it to turn around.

Yeah, there were some really bad managers and an HR that made it worse, thinking they should always protect the manager instead of properly investigating. Still, the suit was an injustice on many levels. I don't disagree with the dollar amount but it should have only been paid to women who had the guts to challenge the company and who had facts and evidence on their side. A few really horrible situations does not make a horrible company overall and paying all women is wrong and sets us all up for animosity. The only one not protected are white males under 40 and the suit was an overcorrection. Now there are posts about wanting across the board salary increases. Sorry, but I made less for years because I chose the mommy track, willingly, happily, and with planning. My income now rivals any man because of coaching by some great mentors that directed me when kids were grown and I was ready for a different track. We all know, no matter our job or job level, most of our satisfaction or disatisfaction comes down to the manager we report to. I also know many women and minorities who are far too quick to scream discrimination instead of looking at what they could do, say, or present differently. I am VERY thankful for the men who took the time to mentor me through my career and helped me navigate, especially through years when there were babies or priorities ahead of work. Their knowledge kept my career on track when I could have derailed it, or had it derailed. Their knowledge of the game was priceless.

At the end of the day, we spend far too much of our time in our jobs to be miserable. If you're jusst blowing steam, fine. But if you are one of the negative posters and are really this unhappy and this angry, really think the company is evil, than you owe it to yourself to do something else. Different company, different industry, go back to school. Do something besides mud slinging and spewing negativity.

For me, the job is awesome. The oncology products are cutting edge. Gleevec changed so many lives and now cml patients survive as long as non-cancer patients. Tasigna is even better. My pay is incredible. Goals need some work but are never perfect with any company and at least there was a conscious effort to look at what needed to change. My pay is fantastic, there are no prius's here, and this job gives me the ability to take care of my family, buy a new home, pursue hobbies and vacations, and to retire relatively comfortably. I'm proud of what I do. If you aren't, you are hurting yourself far more than anyone else by staying. I hope you find what you are looking for.

Why post anonymously? At least you could have let us know which consulting firm Novartis hires for such "work" you work for. Folks, don't forget, this Co and it's BPO will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to protect themselves. Hiring asome specific consultant to do a specific job is the least they can do. If you knew only fraction what your BPO has done to protect this nasty outfit, frakly you'd have the proverbial shit scared out of you and would not post a word not to their liking here for fear they, the BPO might track you down. It is that bad believe it. Again someone posted that even if 5% of criticism was true it is too much of nasty stuff going on. But more is, believe it again.
 


















Why post anonymously? At least you could have let us know which consulting firm Novartis hires for such "work" you work for. Folks, don't forget, this Co and it's BPO will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to protect themselves. Hiring asome specific consultant to do a specific job is the least they can do. If you knew only fraction what your BPO has done to protect this nasty outfit, frakly you'd have the proverbial shit scared out of you and would not post a word not to their liking here for fear they, the BPO might track you down. It is that bad believe it. Again someone posted that even if 5% of criticism was true it is too much of nasty stuff going on. But more is, believe it again.

Why do you post anonymously? Why can't you admit which malcontent community-organization that you represent?
 






Why do you post anonymously? Why can't you admit which malcontent community-organization that you represent?

There ain't no malcontent community, you *&&^%$%$#.What there is, is the fact that this Co is as bad as any other with some good things that some of uou think are equal to cloud nine.It's been proven guilty of criminal and unetical shit, which means that you as sales reps and other employees not involved in organizing that crime, were asked/ordered to do the crime for them. Some of you did it knowing what went down but many did not even know you were asked to to their crime, by bribing, lying,promiting unaproved indications (and most likely killing some patients Rxed improper mediactions as result of you laying to docs the drug is OK for it) and other illegal stuff your co does.
So some of you like and love this whole thing, consider the job at Novartis a career with future and so on. But you don't think it is wrong to be used as a mafia style "soldier" to be the "earner" for this co that is in fact mafia like organization. But you don't know it, you don't want to know it or you simply do not want to admit it. What is it that prompts you to stand up for this shithole and claim that all others are just, how do you say it(?) malcontent?
It just ain't so.
 






Why post anonymously? At least you could have let us know which consulting firm Novartis hires for such "work" you work for. Folks, don't forget, this Co and it's BPO will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to protect themselves. Hiring asome specific consultant to do a specific job is the least they can do. If you knew only fraction what your BPO has done to protect this nasty outfit, frakly you'd have the proverbial shit scared out of you and would not post a word not to their liking here for fear they, the BPO might track you down. It is that bad believe it. Again someone posted that even if 5% of criticism was true it is too much of nasty stuff going on. But more is, believe it again.

Why post anonymously? Because for every person who works hard and takes pride in their work, who accepts no company is perfect, and understands the vast majority of claims against the drug industry are bullshit and settled because the DOJ holds all the cards, there are 10 who are lazy malcontents. I choose not to make myself a target for those people. They have too much time on their hands and spend it all bitching and complaining, wanting desperately to blame someone, anyone, for their failures and unhappiness. However, I am happy to share those views in person with people I know. Exposing who I am on this obnoxious board? Not a chance. No, I don't work for any consulting firm. If I did, do you think there would be any admission of wrong doing as I said in my post? Just a regular field based Novartis employee. I don't wear rose colored glasses but see lots more than the negativity you spew.