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Waiting on WARN period timeframe…June 18th

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They are waiting until after June 18th to avoid the WARN period payment to not only those of us that are still here but those that were let go on March 18th. This explains this ridiculous situation we are in by still being employed with obviously no path forward. Glenn made this statement as well to his team this week. This is a disgusting company as well as leadership.
 




anonymous said:
They are waiting until after June 18th to avoid the WARN period payment to not only those of us that are still here but those that were let go on March 18th. This explains this ridiculous situation we are in by still being employed with obviously no path forward. Glenn made this statement as well to his team this week. This is a disgusting company as well as leadership.
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WARN Act Does Not Prohibit Employers From Spacing Layoffs to Avoid Notice Requirements

Hopefully that is wrong. At this point, Biogen should be providing written notice to all employees now and relieving them of all their duties or they will really get themselves in legal trouble.
 




So you are saying Biogen is going to wait 60 days to lay us off in order to prevent from providing a 60 day notice before we are severed?

As much as I want grab Deb by her non-existing chin, that makes exactly no sense. While you are at it, go ahead and explain how the Ukraine is run by nazis and ANTIFA was really behind January 6th. I will get my popcorn
 




The WARN Act also contains an aggregation rule that prevents employers from terminating several small groups of employees over a long period of time to avoid the notice requirements. Two or more groups of separations over any 90-day period can be counted together to trigger the WARN notice requirements. Be aware that any employment losses within any 90-day period might be added together to meet the WARN threshold levels, unless you can demonstrate that the separations were the result of separate and distinct actions and causes.
 




Q: I likely have to lay off a significant portion of my staff (500 employees), but we are still working with pre-pandemic orders. I need to keep at least some of the staff on until those are finished. Can I avoid providing WARN notices if I make the layoffs in waves – for instance, laying off 100 employees in August, 100 employees in September and 300 employees in October?
A: No. You are not able to avoid notice in this circumstance; although, if the layoff is for demonstrably different reasons, more spacing of a layoff may be possible without triggering the WARN Act. In determining whether notice is required in this scenario, in which all the employment loss is occurring because of a graduated layoff, you are required to look ahead and back 90 days to determine whether the planned and completed employment losses would trigger WARN. Here, when terminating the 100 employees in August, you must look ahead 90 days to October to determine whether your planned layoff, if aggregated, would add up to 500 employees (or at least 50 employees, if that number is one-third of the workforce). In this case, all the terminations would be subject to WARN notice because of the 90-day aggregate rule.
 




The 90 day period would lapse after June 18th. That is the point of the original post. By waiting until after that date would abound the WARN period for the two waves.
 




Glenn also stated that he didn’t actually know for sure. He had no idea. The layoffs can easily be shown to be for different reasons. Thx first was a restructure for better operations. This one is due to the NCD. The government is not going to waste their time challenging it. That portion of the law is meant for companies deliberately trying to buck the system.
Also, as many posters have stated, Michel is going to have to have a plan to announce by the May 3 earnings calls. He claimed on the Feb 3 call that they were planning for all scenarios. Part of the reason that this is taking so long is likely because they didn’t have a plan and are scrambling, They have to have a plan for commercial and other functions, including what to do about the studies. Many on hold until the final decision is made and approved by ELT and board.
 




Or maybe they could just do the right thing for the right reasons. Oh never mind, i forgot we were talking about the Biogen LT. What does magic mike think as he stares up at his cherub adorned ceilings.
 




















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Glenn also stated that he didn’t actually know for sure. He had no idea. The layoffs can easily be shown to be for different reasons. Thx first was a restructure for better operations. This one is due to the NCD. The government is not going to waste their time challenging it. That portion of the law is meant for companies deliberately trying to buck the system.
Also, as many posters have stated, Michel is going to have to have a plan to announce by the May 3 earnings calls. He claimed on the Feb 3 call that they were planning for all scenarios. Part of the reason that this is taking so long is likely because they didn’t have a plan and are scrambling, They have to have a plan for commercial and other functions, including what to do about the studies. Many on hold until the final decision is made and approved by ELT and board.
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This is by far the most bizarre situation I have ever been put in. We are among very bad, bad people. I hate this organization so much and their name is mud in this industry now. Even our own customers know how much they treat their employees like trash that they can throw off the side of the road. They don't care about us, the customers, and certainly not the patients.
 




I will forever warn people of this place if they ever consider a job here. I don't think it will last long however and Biogen won't exist in a few short years. Talk about completely ruining your reputation. Under Michel V. leadership and the minions under him, this place is now the worst company to work for.
 




Why do people even sign up for these Pharma Jobs anymore. Everyone knows the Industry sucks, No one is treated w/ respect, there is no stability and it's nothing but full of hubris sociopathic people and every company is the same. Just switching brings more pain and complaining on CP. Yet people, allegedly smart people will inevitably sign up for more pain and disappointment. Anyone could have predicted the out come, it's the same out outcome that every other company goes through every few years. The Leadership here has ruined their past employers and yet people thought it was going to be different this time. Unreal and the legions of Sociopaths will soon be bragging that they got yet another Pharma job only to bitch again in the near future.
 








It is disheartening to recognize how much of an insider game it is. People at Merck knew that Michel wasnt very good. People at Novartis knew Ginger was a toxic superspreader. Most of the LT probably hates each other due to toxic cliques and disastrous inadequacies. I have to think most Wall Street analysts know something just isn't right. The BoD has to know they messed up but you can't admit f'ups at that level

Access and a seat at the table is what stuffs the pockets of board members, politicians, c-suite, and wall street analysts. And the only way to keep your seat is to go along with the madness. Your willingness to play is rewarded with golden parachutes (hush agreements ala Capello), new c suite gigs, board seats, and continued access and the shared silence of club members. The only other option is mutually assured destruction.. Stakeholders (investors, patients, employees) are just the pawns that let the game continue.

Maybe it is what you know about who you know.

#firemichel
 




anonymous said:
Why do people even sign up for these Pharma Jobs anymore. Everyone knows the Industry sucks, No one is treated w/ respect, there is no stability and it's nothing but full of hubris sociopathic people and every company is the same. Just switching brings more pain and complaining on CP. Yet people, allegedly smart people will inevitably sign up for more pain and disappointment. Anyone could have predicted the out come, it's the same out outcome that every other company goes through every few years. The Leadership here has ruined their past employers and yet people thought it was going to be different this time. Unreal and the legions of Sociopaths will soon be bragging that they got yet another Pharma job only to bitch again in the near future.
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Be assured everyone knows this industry is a shit show. My personal hope is my next company is my last 5 years and then I am finished. Same crap, different day. Tired of the shit these companies do but also tired of the nasty people in the offices and taking shit from terrible people. One last time for me and thats it.
 




anonymous said:
Be assured everyone knows this industry is a shit show. My personal hope is my next company is my last 5 years and then I am finished. Same crap, different day. Tired of the shit these companies do but also tired of the nasty people in the offices and taking shit from terrible people. One last time for me and thats it.
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Good mornin. This is a shit show an no bouncing back from this tragedy. Biogen is no longer welcome in most hospitals and other accounts. So mad that Michel, Alisha, and Deb all have gone MOA. Can you imagine if this were a ship? They would all have a secret raft to escape and leave everyone else to die.
 




No one should be shock how any of this is playing out. AA was served papers from Attys while at a past employer for creating a toxic work environment which made it impossible to work.
 




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