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I just heard of a sales rep Todd Goeckner going to Alcon. He's been here a long time.

Todd Goeckner was a whiny crybaby who barely made it out of the house in the morning and couldn't think past the next 4 hours. Thank god he's gone. Will not be missed. He represented all the short term thinking that the US sales force is notorious for. His remaining former colleagues need to travel to Asia or Europe and see how real, long term, strategic salesmanship is done.
 


















Todd Goeckner was a whiny crybaby who barely made it out of the house in the morning and couldn't think past the next 4 hours. Thank god he's gone. Will not be missed. He represented all the short term thinking that the US sales force is notorious for. His remaining former colleagues need to travel to Asia or Europe and see how real, long term, strategic salesmanship is done.
What are you talking about you idiot? Why the eff would any US citizen need to travel to Asia or Europe to see how to sell? You need to educate yourself on how vastly different our markets are and then realize you are talking to Americans. This is what we do, we bitch, we whine and then we go change our circumstances.
 












What are you talking about you idiot? Why the eff would any US citizen need to travel to Asia or Europe to see how to sell? You need to educate yourself on how vastly different our markets are and then realize you are talking to Americans. This is what we do, we bitch, we whine and then we go change our circumstances.

Not sure the origin of this little back and forth you have going on, but one reason might be because in a good month the US might be 10% of the global business. So while the US continues to whine and complain that they can't sell anything because they need something new and shiny all the time and still can't sell anything, the ROW is kicking your butt without complaining selling products that have been on the market for 15 years.
 




































Bunch of fat boys

Obviously, you are talking about surgical...in that case you forgot worthless too. How is it possible that the four guys have spent their careers in ophthalmology and yet manage to have zero industry knowledge? If Valeant wanted to save money, increase morale and stop reps from leaving it could be done with one decision...fire CH, BH, AP, and JL. Watch what happens to a sinking ship when you throw the dead weight over board.